---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/28/05: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:04 AM - Re: Carburettor heat shields (Tim Ward) 2. 12:14 AM - Re: Carburettor heat shields (Gerry Holland) 3. 12:35 AM - Re: Carburettor heat shields (simon miles) 4. 01:18 AM - Re: Monowheel - fixing brake pipe onto UC Leg (Jos Okhuijsen) 5. 01:31 AM - Re: Carburettor heat shields (Gerry Holland) 6. 02:20 AM - Carbureta heat shields (DvdPar@aol.com) 7. 02:39 AM - Re: Carburetta heat shields (Gerry Holland) 8. 04:48 AM - Re: Monowheel - fixing brake pipe onto UC Leg (Jim Butcher) 9. 05:18 AM - Tri-gear track dimension (Colin John Howard Richardson) 10. 05:54 AM - Re: Tri-gear track dimension (ivor.phillips) 11. 05:58 AM - Re: Tri-gear track dimension (R.C.Harrison) 12. 06:43 AM - Re: Tri-gear track dimension (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen) 13. 07:14 AM - Re: Carburetta heat shields (Jeremy Davey) 14. 07:38 AM - Re: Carburettor heat shields (Gerry Holland) 15. 09:04 AM - Re: Tri-gear track dimension (Colin John Howard Richardson) 16. 09:05 AM - Re: Tri-gear track dimension (Colin John Howard Richardson) 17. 09:05 AM - Re: Tri-gear track dimension (Colin John Howard Richardson) 18. 10:36 AM - Fire wall Inspection apperture (ctsmallwood) 19. 11:26 AM - Re: Carburetta heat shields (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 20. 12:00 PM - Carburettor heat shields (Gerry Holland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:39 AM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" Simon, The Rotax drip trays available from Rotax (at a cost!) do perform 2 tasks. One is to act to prevent fuel from dripping onto the exhaust directly beneath the carburettor!! and two to act as a heat shield from the exhaust beneath. Due to installing the Sky Drive Carb Heat system I had to modify the drip trays to fit under the carburettor sufficiently. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "simon miles" Subject: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields > --> Europa-List message posted by: "simon miles" > > > I'm installing a Rotax 912S in my Europa. The Rotax installation manual > suggests that a heat shield should be installed beneath each carburettor > but > the Europa manual doesn't mention anything about them. Did anyone install > them and what did you use? > > > Simon Miles, > Builder #508, > Tri-gear, Rotax 912S, Airmaster Propeller. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Simon Hi! > I'm installing a Rotax 912S in my Europa. The Rotax installation manual > suggests that a heat shield should be installed beneath each carburettor but > the Europa manual doesn't mention anything about them. Did anyone install > them and what did you use? I did using some fairly light gauge Aluminium. Paddy Clarke (Scholar and Gentleman!) lent me a Cardboard Template as pattern including bending lines. If you would like a scanned paper copy let me know. Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. PSS AoA Fitted. http://www.g-fizy.com Mobile: +44 7808 402404 WebFax: +44 870 7059985 gnholland@onetel.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:58 AM PST US From: "simon miles" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields --> Europa-List message posted by: "simon miles" Hello Gerry, Thanks for your reply. Yes, I would like a copy of the template! Thank you. Best regards, Simon Miles. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Holland" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland > > Simon Hi! > >> I'm installing a Rotax 912S in my Europa. The Rotax installation manual >> suggests that a heat shield should be installed beneath each carburettor >> but >> the Europa manual doesn't mention anything about them. Did anyone install >> them and what did you use? > > I did using some fairly light gauge Aluminium. Paddy Clarke (Scholar and > Gentleman!) lent me a Cardboard Template as pattern including bending > lines. > If you would like a scanned paper copy let me know. > > Regards > > Gerry > Europa 384 G-FIZY > Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. > Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. > PSS AoA Fitted. > > http://www.g-fizy.com > Mobile: +44 7808 402404 > WebFax: +44 870 7059985 > gnholland@onetel.com > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:18:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel - fixing brake pipe onto UC Leg From: "Jos Okhuijsen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" Hi Bob, From what i've seen it's Pclips being used and drilled for self tapers. I have no idea if those are supplied with the kit. Most of the folks have broken drills on those holes, so be warned. Slow speed and centrered all the time is the advice. Regards, Jos Okhuijsen ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Simon. > I would like a copy of the template! Thank you. I'm on the case. Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:47 AM PST US From: DvdPar@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Carbureta heat shields --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com Could I have a copy please. Thanks Dave Park XS 371 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:39:37 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburetta heat shields From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland > --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com > > Could I have a copy please. If you're a good boy! Regards Gerry Do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:58 AM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: Re: Monowheel - fixing brake pipe onto UC Leg --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" We just used studs (similar to Click Bond) glued on the outside of the arm with Araldite. Little afraid to drill through the arm. Jim & Heather Butcher A185 N241BW ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:36 AM PST US From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Hi all, I have to move a tri-gear fuselage on a flat trailer. At the moment I cannot get to the aircraft to measure exactly the dimension from the outside of the main gear tyre to the outside of the opposite main gear tyre. This will dictate what width of trailer I will need to transport the fuselage. Could anyone please measure this dimension on a trigear and let me know, on list or off list at cjh.richardson@virgin .net Many thanks John Richardson G-BXGG - ex Mono-wheel now a Tri-gear. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:52 AM PST US From: "ivor.phillips" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" 73 inches But that is with no weight, i.e. No engine and accessories, The distance would increase with load, Ivor Phillips XS486 London UK CM Installed, rudder cables complete, trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" > > > Hi all, > > I have to move a tri-gear fuselage on a flat trailer. At the moment I > cannot get to the aircraft to measure exactly the dimension from the > outside of the main gear tyre to the outside of the opposite main gear > tyre. This will dictate what width of trailer I will need to transport the > fuselage. > > Could anyone please measure this dimension on a trigear and let me know, > on list or off list at cjh.richardson@virgin .net > > > Many thanks > > > John Richardson > G-BXGG - ex Mono-wheel now a Tri-gear. > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:10 AM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Hi! Colin Mine without main tank fuel on board is 79" over the spats. However beware the fact that when you pull the a/c backwards the axle toe out spreads the width. And of course the greater the load the wider it sits. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa 337 MKI Trike/Jabiru 3300. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin John Howard Richardson Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Hi all, I have to move a tri-gear fuselage on a flat trailer. At the moment I cannot get to the aircraft to measure exactly the dimension from the outside of the main gear tyre to the outside of the opposite main gear tyre. This will dictate what width of trailer I will need to transport the fuselage. Could anyone please measure this dimension on a trigear and let me know, on list or off list at cjh.richardson@virgin .net Many thanks John Richardson G-BXGG - ex Mono-wheel now a Tri-gear. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:43:34 AM PST US From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" John, 75 3/4" - engine installed Regards, Svein A225 - XS Trigear - now in Norway ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" > > > Hi all, > > I have to move a tri-gear fuselage on a flat trailer. At the moment I > cannot get to the aircraft to measure exactly the dimension from the > outside of the main gear tyre to the outside of the opposite main gear > tyre. This will dictate what width of trailer I will need to transport the > fuselage. > > Could anyone please measure this dimension on a trigear and let me know, > on list or off list at cjh.richardson@virgin .net > > > Many thanks > > > John Richardson > G-BXGG - ex Mono-wheel now a Tri-gear. > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:26 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Carburetta heat shields --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Then start setting an example, Holland! :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1320 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Holland Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburetta heat shields --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland > --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com > > Could I have a copy please. If you're a good boy! Regards Gerry Do not archive ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:38:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Jez Hi! > Then start setting an example, Holland! :-) The good always die young! Well that's Hollywood's contention. I intend to carry on being bad and grumpy...... As you know OLD!! Regards Bewildered of Bath Do not archive ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:16 AM PST US From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Ivor, Many thanks for your help on the Tri-gear track. I will be using the slightly wider trailer for the job. John Richardson ----- Original Message ----- From: "ivor.phillips" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" > > 73 inches But that is with no weight, i.e. No engine and accessories, The > distance would increase with load, > Ivor Phillips > XS486 London UK > CM Installed, rudder cables complete, > trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" > To: "Europa Forum" > Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have to move a tri-gear fuselage on a flat trailer. At the moment I > > cannot get to the aircraft to measure exactly the dimension from the > > outside of the main gear tyre to the outside of the opposite main gear > > tyre. This will dictate what width of trailer I will need to transport the > > fuselage. > > > > Could anyone please measure this dimension on a trigear and let me know, > > on list or off list at cjh.richardson@virgin .net > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > John Richardson > > G-BXGG - ex Mono-wheel now a Tri-gear. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:50 AM PST US From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Bob, Many thanks for the track dimension. It has clarified the choice of trailer for this one off job. Regards John Richardson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" > > Hi! Colin > Mine without main tank fuel on board is 79" over the spats. However > beware the fact that when you pull the a/c backwards the axle toe out > spreads the width. And of course the greater the load the wider it sits. > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa 337 MKI Trike/Jabiru 3300. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Colin John > Howard Richardson > To: Europa Forum > Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" > > > Hi all, > > I have to move a tri-gear fuselage on a flat trailer. At the moment I > cannot get to the aircraft to measure exactly the dimension from the > outside of the main gear tyre to the outside of the opposite main gear > tyre. This will dictate what width of trailer I will need to transport > the fuselage. > > Could anyone please measure this dimension on a trigear and let me know, > on list or off list at cjh.richardson@virgin .net > > > Many thanks > > > John Richardson > G-BXGG - ex Mono-wheel now a Tri-gear. > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:50 AM PST US From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" Svein, Many thanks for the track dimension. I will be using a slightly wider trailer than I was planning to. You have saved me some hassle! Regards John Richardson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" > > John, > > 75 3/4" - engine installed > > Regards, > Svein > A225 - XS Trigear - now in Norway > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" > To: "Europa Forum" > Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear track dimension > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have to move a tri-gear fuselage on a flat trailer. At the moment I > > cannot get to the aircraft to measure exactly the dimension from the > > outside of the main gear tyre to the outside of the opposite main gear > > tyre. This will dictate what width of trailer I will need to transport the > > fuselage. > > > > Could anyone please measure this dimension on a trigear and let me know, > > on list or off list at cjh.richardson@virgin .net > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > John Richardson > > G-BXGG - ex Mono-wheel now a Tri-gear. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:30 AM PST US From: "ctsmallwood" Subject: Europa-List: Fire wall Inspection apperture --> Europa-List message posted by: "ctsmallwood" Hi All Does anyone have a MOD No for inspection aperture above footwell in Port bulkhead 7x5 with stainless !" surround similar to that as applied to Europa factory Demonstrator ? Regards Colin Smallwood Now on final Assy.!!! ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:26:55 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carburetta heat shields --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Gerry, Since you are being so nice about it, I'll go for a copy for later install. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Just about to put the top on but still finding little things to do before that. Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 12:00:02 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Carburettor heat shields From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Mike > Since you are being so nice about it, I'll go for a copy for later install. It will be a pleasure.... Even though I'm a miserable old sod! I'll send it to your private e-mail address Regards Gerry