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1. 07:24 AM - Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
2. 07:43 AM - FW: Time for a laugh (Alan Burrows)
3. 07:45 AM - Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? (Cliff Shaw)
4. 10:39 AM - Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? (NevEyre@aol.com)
5. 11:19 AM - Recommended towing and jacking points (simon miles)
6. 12:15 PM - Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
7. 01:38 PM - Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? (Carl Pattinson)
8. 02:23 PM - Re: Recommended towing and jacking points (R.C.Harrison)
9. 06:46 PM - Aircraft Winching (Steve Crimm)
10. 07:14 PM - Re: Aircraft Winching (Steve Hagar)
11. 11:45 PM - Controlled air space article (MR!PAUL MITCHELL)
12. 11:47 PM - Re: Aircraft Winching (R.C.Harrison)
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| Subject: | Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
My Rotax 912S has a VDO oil temp sender with a peculiar contact point for the
cable to the instrument (in my case Grand Rapids EIS): A thin 1/4" disk on a
short pin, all made of brass. The Rotax dealer here has in vain tried to source
the cable terminal for those not using Skydat (where it comes with the set),
and the VDO importer does not recognize the sender among VDO's products (!).
Anyone who knows what type of terminal should be used to connect the instrument
cable to this sender, and where I can buy it?
Regards,
Svein
A225 - XS Trigear - now in Norway
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| Subject: | FW: Time for a laugh |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
All too rarely, airline attendants make an effort to make the in-flight
"safety lecture" and announcements a bit more entertaining. Here are
some real examples that
have been heard or reported:
On a Southwest flight (SW has no assigned seating, you just sit where
you want) passengers
were apparently having a hard time choosing, when a flight attendant
announced, "People,
people we're not picking out furniture here, find a seat and get in
it!"
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On a Continental Flight with a very "senior" flight attendant crew, the
pilot said, "Ladies and gentlemen, we've reached cruising altitude and
will be turning down the
cabin lights. This is for your comfort and to enhance the appearance of
your flight attendants."
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On landing, the stewardess said, "Please be sure to take all of your
belongings. If you're going to leave anything, please make sure it's
something we'd like to have."
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There may be 50 ways to leave your lover, but there are only 4 ways out
of this airplane"
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"Thank you for flying Delta Business Express. We hope you enjoyed
giving us the business as
much as we enjoyed taking you for a ride."
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As the plane landed and was coming to a stop at Ronald Reagan, a lone
voice came over the
loudspeaker: "Whoa, big fella. WHOA!"
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After a particularly rough landing during thunderstorms in Memphis, a
flight attendant on a Northwest flight announced, "Please take care
when opening the overhead
compartments because, after a landing like what, sure as hell
everything has shifted."
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From a Southwest Airlines employee: "Welcome aboard Southwest Flight
245 to Tampa. To
operate your seat belt, insert the metal tab into the buckle, and pull
tight. It works just like every
other seat belt; and, if you don't know how to operate one, you
probably shouldn't be out in
public unsupervised."
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"In the event of a sudden loss of cabin pressure, masks will descend
from the ceiling. Stop
screaming, grab the mask, and pull it over your face. If you have a
small child traveling with you,
secure your mask before assisting with theirs. If you are traveling
with more than one small
child, pick your favorite."
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Weather at our destination is 50 degrees with some broken clouds, but
we'll try to have them
fixed before we arrive. Thank you, and remember, nobody loves you, or
your money, more than
Southwest Airlines."
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"Your seat cushions can be used for flotation; and, in the event of an
emergency water landing, please paddle to shore and take them with our
compliments."
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"As you exit the plane, make sure to gather all of your belongings,
Anything left behind will be distributed evenly among the flight
attendants.. Please do not leave children or spouses."
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And from the pilot during his welcome message: "Delta Airlines is
pleased to have some of the
best flight attendants in the industry, Unfortunately, none of them are
on this flight!"
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Heard on Southwest Airlines just after a very hard landing in Salt Lake
City: The flight attendant came on the intercom and said, "That was
quite a bump, and I know
what y'all are thinking. I'm here to tell you it wasn't the airline's
fault, it wasn't the pilot's fault, it
wasn't the flight
attendant's fault, it was the asphalt."
------------------------------
Overheard on an American Airlines flight into Amarillo, Texas, on a
particularly windy and bumpy day: During the final approach, the
Captain was really having to
fight it. After an extremely hard landing, the Flight Attendant said,
"Ladies and Gentlemen,
welcome to Amarillo. Please remain in your seats with your seat belts
fastened while the Captain
taxis what's left of our airplane to the gate!"
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Another flight attendant's comment on a less than perfect landing: "We
ask you to please
remain seated as Captain Kangaroo bounces us to the terminal."
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An airline pilot wrote that on this particular flight he had hammered
his ship into the runway
really hard. The airline had a policy which required the first officer
to stand at the door while the
Passengers exited, smile, and give them a "Thanks for flying our
airline." He said that, in light of
his bad landing, he had a hard time looking the passengers in the eye,
thinking that someone
would have a smart comment. Finally everyone had gotten off except for
a little old lady walking
with a cane. She said, "Sir, do you mind if I ask you a question?"
"Why, no, Ma'am," said the
pilot. "What is it?" The little old lady said, "Did we land, or were we
shot down?"
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After a real crusher of a landing in Phoenix, the attendant came on
with, "Ladies and Gentlemen,
please remain in your seats until Capt, Crash and the Crew have brought
the aircraft to a
screeching halt against the gate. And, once the tire smoke has cleared
and the warning bells are
silenced, we'll open the door and you can pick your way through the
wreckage to the terminal."
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Part of a flight attendant's arrival announcement: "We'd like to thank
you folks for flying with us today. And, the next time you get the
insane urge to go blasting
through the skies in a pressurized metal tube, we hope you'll think of
US Airways."
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Heard on a Southwest Airline flight. "Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish
to smoke, the smoking
section on this airplane is on the wing and if you can light 'em, you
can smoke 'em."
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A plane was taking off from Kennedy Airport. After it reached a
comfortable cruising altitude, the captain made an announcement over
the intercom, "Ladies
and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking, Welcome to Flight Number
293, nonstop from New
York to Los Angeles, The weather ahead is good and, therefore, we
should have a smooth and
uneventful flight. Now sit back and relax... OH, MY GOD!" Silence
followed, and after a few
minutes, the captain came back on the intercom and said, "Ladies and
Gentlemen, I am so sorry
if I scared you earlier. While I was talking to you, the flight
attendant accidentally spilled a cup of
hot coffee in my lap. You should see the front of my pants!"
A passenger in Coach yelled, "That's nothing. You should see the back
of mine!"
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
http://www.42draftdesigns.com/tech.htm
Go to this link I found (using GOOGLA) and scroll down a couple times.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
Subject: Europa-List: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen"
> <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
>
> My Rotax 912S has a VDO oil temp sender with a peculiar contact point for
> the cable to the instrument (in my case Grand Rapids EIS): A thin 1/4"
> disk on a short pin, all made of brass. The Rotax dealer here has in
> vain tried to source the cable terminal for those not using Skydat (where
> it comes with the set), and the VDO importer does not recognize the sender
> among VDO's products (!).
>
> Anyone who knows what type of terminal should be used to connect the
> instrument cable to this sender, and where I can buy it?
>
> Regards,
> Svein
> A225 - XS Trigear - now in Norway
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
Hi Svein,
The terminal for the VDO gauge takes a standard 1/4'' female LUCAR
connector, pushed on sideways [sounds funny, but true !]
Cheers,
Nev.
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| Subject: | Recommended towing and jacking points |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "simon miles" <simon.miles@skynet.be>
My Tri-gear is due to be moved from the workshop to its hangar next weekend.
I need to lift the nose-wheel by about 12" or 30cm to reduce the overall
height of the aeroplane so it will fit through the door of the workshop - is
there a preferred jacking point to do this?
In addition, is there a preferred towing point (or pushing point) to get it
up the ramp from the workshop to the road. There will be four of us to do
the pushing/pulling (I hope - the weather forecast is for snow on
Saturday...)
Simon Miles
Tri-gear #508,
Rotax 912S, Airmaster propeller.
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
Thank you, all, for the replies. How can such an apparently intricate
"thing" have such a simple solution?! My thought was to use such a standard
female connector, which I would probably have done if it were in my boat,
but it just looked so out-of-place on that fancy sender end, and in an
airplane. Anyway, the simpler, the better - just hope the connector stays
on when the engine vibrates.
Again, thank you very much!
Regards,
Svein
A225 - XS Trigear - now in Norway
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| Subject: | Re: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Just make sure the leads cant vibrate as this will cause fluctuations in the
readings especially if you are using digital instruments. WE had a problem
with this about 6 months ago.
Played havoc with the readings till we found the cause.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Oil temp sender: Cable terminal?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen"
> <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
>
> Thank you, all, for the replies. How can such an apparently intricate
> "thing" have such a simple solution?! My thought was to use such a
> standard
> female connector, which I would probably have done if it were in my boat,
> but it just looked so out-of-place on that fancy sender end, and in an
> airplane. Anyway, the simpler, the better - just hope the connector stays
> on when the engine vibrates.
>
> Again, thank you very much!
>
> Regards,
> Svein
> A225 - XS Trigear - now in Norway
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Recommended towing and jacking points |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Simon
One guy leans over the rear of the empennage to hold the tail down, that
gets the nose up. or he can press on one side of the torque tube which
keeps his feet on the floor so he can do some directional steering.
Two more guys each pull on the front of the door jambs.
Fourth one pulls on the prop. close to the spinner only.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of simon miles
Subject: Europa-List: Recommended towing and jacking points
--> Europa-List message posted by: "simon miles" <simon.miles@skynet.be>
My Tri-gear is due to be moved from the workshop to its hangar next
weekend.
I need to lift the nose-wheel by about 12" or 30cm to reduce the overall
height of the aeroplane so it will fit through the door of the workshop
- is
there a preferred jacking point to do this?
In addition, is there a preferred towing point (or pushing point) to get
it
up the ramp from the workshop to the road. There will be four of us to
do
the pushing/pulling (I hope - the weather forecast is for snow on
Saturday...)
Simon Miles
Tri-gear #508,
Rotax 912S, Airmaster propeller.
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| Subject: | Aircraft Winching |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Flight,
I am considering getting an electric strap winch to assist in loading my
monowheel onto it's trailer. For those who utilize a winch I have these
questions:
1. Where do you attach the winch strap/cable to the aircraft so it doesn't
damage the aircraft?
2. What type of attachment do you use if you pull using the landing gear?
3. Are there any secrets learner from experience that will assist me in
setting up a winch on my trailer?
Thanks,
Steve Crimm
A058
N15JN
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| Subject: | Aircraft Winching |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Steve:
I winch the monowheel tail first up on the trailer. I have made a lanyard
out of aircraft cable with 2 loops on it to slip over the axel extensions
on the tailwheel. The aircraft cg is very far forward without the wings
and tail installed. I have had the aircraft nose over when going down the
ramp when paying out the strap too fast and then trying to stop the motion
too fast. My trailer is a dual axel flatbed. I made an exension over the
tongue area to install the winch and to give a place for the tailwheel to
go. The ramp has a good incline to it as the flatbed is typically higher
than the rail type trailers. I went with a flatbed to offer a degree of
protection that the rail trailers do not offer. The traffic here is
horrendous, I don't trust the aircraft on a small trailer on the roads out
here.
Steve Hagar
N40 SH
A143
Mesa, AZ
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
> [Original Message]
> From: Steve Crimm <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 3/8/2005 7:45:36 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Aircraft Winching
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm"
<steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>
> Flight,
>
> I am considering getting an electric strap winch to assist in loading my
> monowheel onto it's trailer. For those who utilize a winch I have these
> questions:
>
> 1. Where do you attach the winch strap/cable to the aircraft so it
doesn't
> damage the aircraft?
>
> 2. What type of attachment do you use if you pull using the landing
gear?
>
> 3. Are there any secrets learner from experience that will assist me in
> setting up a winch on my trailer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve Crimm
> A058
> N15JN
>
>
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| Subject: | Controlled air space article |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "MR!PAUL MITCHELL" <paul.mitchell2@homecall.co.uk>
Gents,
Some time last year I remember reading an article in ??? magazine (This is the
question) where two guys of very different experience had flown a set route round
Southern England, asking for and mostly getting crossing clearance for Southampton,
London city, Stanstead and Luton ATZ while flying VMC. They flew a C150
with the experienced guy on the radio and them reversed the route in a twin
with the inexperienced guy on the radio. Do any of you remember the article
and if so what book and date.
Thanks.
Paul Mitchell
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| Subject: | Aircraft Winching |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Steve
Although my a/c is a trike it was built as a convertible and so has the
tail wheel extension spring /rod. It so happened that I needed a small
amount of ballast there too so I have a tow eye on the spring instead of
the pivoting wheel. I didn't skimp with the strength added to the inside
of the fuselage in that area either. MY a/c is winched in and out of the
box trailer every time I fly (600 hours) to no detriment. With the mono
your main challenge will be keeping the fuselage upright and will so
need at least one helper to steady it with the wings fitted and probably
one person each side without the wings, no doubt the mono guys may have
some better advice for the mono rig. But I'd recommend a small trolly to
sit the tail wheel in to enable it to remain in line and so not stress
the rudder cables etc.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Crimm
Subject: Europa-List: Aircraft Winching
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm"
<steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Flight,
I am considering getting an electric strap winch to assist in loading
my
monowheel onto it's trailer. For those who utilize a winch I have these
questions:
1. Where do you attach the winch strap/cable to the aircraft so it
doesn't
damage the aircraft?
2. What type of attachment do you use if you pull using the landing
gear?
3. Are there any secrets learner from experience that will assist me in
setting up a winch on my trailer?
Thanks,
Steve Crimm
A058
N15JN
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