---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/21/05: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:44 AM - Autopilot Installation (Moore, Dave) 2. 01:17 AM - Re: Autopilot Installation (Jeremy Davey) 3. 12:08 PM - USAF Loves Their Predators... Wants More (Duncan McFadyean) 4. 12:39 PM - Fuel vent position (Mike Gamble) 5. 12:49 PM - Re: Autopilot Installation (Carl Pattinson) 6. 02:26 PM - Re: Autopilot Installation (Tony Renshaw) 7. 02:36 PM - decals (Peter Rees) 8. 03:31 PM - Re: decals (N55XS) 9. 11:28 PM - Re: Fuel vent position (Bill & Sue Sisley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:44:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Autopilot Installation From: "Moore, Dave" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Moore, Dave" Folks, I want to install a Navaid-type wing leveller (Trio EZ Pilot) into my completed, but not yet installed, cockpit module. Has anyone got a design for attaching a drive arm to an aileron torque tube, which is already bonded into the cockpit module? Cutting a CS03 bush in half (so that it forms a saddle), riveting a drive arm to it and then riveting the assembly to the torque tube, has been suggested and appears sensible. However, it would challenge my limited skills to drill the torque tube and get a pop riveter accurately to the location. Is there a clamping arrangement, preferably 'PFA-approved', that I could put on to the torque tube.?? For example, could I 'simply' use half a CS03 bush and a couple of hose clamps. (That's what RV folk have used for attachment to aileron push rods, but that may not be wise for a rotational force..??) With thanks, Dave Moore Monowheel #550 Aberdeen, UK ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:09 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Autopilot Installation --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Dave, Are you a member of the Europa Club? The Club has a mod for exactly this - I based my mod for installation of a TruTrack AP on it. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation. Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1320 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moore, Dave Subject: Europa-List: Autopilot Installation --> Europa-List message posted by: "Moore, Dave" Folks, I want to install a Navaid-type wing leveller (Trio EZ Pilot) into my completed, but not yet installed, cockpit module. Has anyone got a design for attaching a drive arm to an aileron torque tube, which is already bonded into the cockpit module? Cutting a CS03 bush in half (so that it forms a saddle), riveting a drive arm to it and then riveting the assembly to the torque tube, has been suggested and appears sensible. However, it would challenge my limited skills to drill the torque tube and get a pop riveter accurately to the location. Is there a clamping arrangement, preferably 'PFA-approved', that I could put on to the torque tube.?? For example, could I 'simply' use half a CS03 bush and a couple of hose clamps. (That's what RV folk have used for attachment to aileron push rods, but that may not be wise for a rotational force..??) With thanks, Dave Moore Monowheel #550 Aberdeen, UK ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:08:40 PM PST US From: "Duncan McFadyean" Subject: Europa-List: USAF Loves Their Predators... Wants More --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" Order your 914 before the rush!: http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=a24b9fc9-a627-49b5-9a99-bc 568c133cdb& Duncan McF. do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:35 PM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Europa-List: Fuel vent position --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" I have the tank vent and the sight guage return tube entering the top of the fuel filler housing and another tube from the fuel filler running down to below the baggage shelf ready to reach the outside via the metal vent tube. I think I shall have this tube pass through the skin about 3 inches outboard of the stb flap tube hinge so that it is clear of any crud thrown up by the mono wheeel. Are there any better ideas to keep the tubing clear of the flap tube movement? Any reports from those using this repositioned vent system? Thanks. Mike Gamble XS mono 440 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:49:15 PM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Autopilot Installation --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" We fitted ours to the bottom of the control stick (attached to the bolt that goes thru the bottom yoke). The drive box sits below the pilots right thigh with a plywood cover over it. No drilling or riveting required for this mod and the servo motor is easily accessible for any adjustments. Carl pattinson G-LABS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moore, Dave" Subject: Europa-List: Autopilot Installation > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Moore, Dave" > > Folks, > > I want to install a Navaid-type wing leveller (Trio EZ Pilot) into my > completed, but not yet installed, cockpit module. > > Has anyone got a design for attaching a drive arm to an aileron torque > tube, which is already bonded into the cockpit module? > > Cutting a CS03 bush in half (so that it forms a saddle), riveting a > drive arm to it and then riveting the assembly to the torque tube, has > been suggested and appears sensible. However, it would challenge my > limited skills to drill the torque tube and get a pop riveter accurately > to the location. > > Is there a clamping arrangement, preferably 'PFA-approved', that I > could put on to the torque tube.?? > > For example, could I 'simply' use half a CS03 bush and a couple of hose > clamps. (That's what RV folk have used for attachment to aileron push > rods, but that may not be wise for a rotational force..??) > > With thanks, > > Dave Moore > > Monowheel #550 > Aberdeen, UK > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:58 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Autopilot Installation --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw Dave, The best installation for your autopilot is as per Carl Patinsons suggestions. I too have the Trio, and you either bury it under the module with a clamping/bonding method onto the aileron torque tube where you will never be able to get to it again, or you put it where you can easily access it. If you halve the bushes, have a look at Steve Dunsmuirs web pages and look up my name, you will find pictures of the exact setup you describe, but however I am not using it. I reckon if it ever came loose in that confined space, it could jam things up. If it ever got stuck under your right thigh, at Carls location, you can easily set it up so that you can reach down and disconnect it with a pull forward on the autopilot drive arm, if you have the right coupling. My intention is to use a coupling like the door struts, like a tow bar cup on a trailer, so that if ever I am not happy, it will be easy to disconnect. So, leave it till later. Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia At 07:38 PM 3/21/2005, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Moore, Dave" > >Folks, > >I want to install a Navaid-type wing leveller (Trio EZ Pilot) into my >completed, but not yet installed, cockpit module. > >Has anyone got a design for attaching a drive arm to an aileron torque >tube, which is already bonded into the cockpit module? > >Cutting a CS03 bush in half (so that it forms a saddle), riveting a >drive arm to it and then riveting the assembly to the torque tube, has >been suggested and appears sensible. However, it would challenge my >limited skills to drill the torque tube and get a pop riveter accurately >to the location. > >Is there a clamping arrangement, preferably 'PFA-approved', that I >could put on to the torque tube.?? > >For example, could I 'simply' use half a CS03 bush and a couple of hose >clamps. (That's what RV folk have used for attachment to aileron push >rods, but that may not be wise for a rotational force..??) > >With thanks, > >Dave Moore > >Monowheel #550 >Aberdeen, UK > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:05 PM PST US From: "Peter Rees" Subject: Europa-List: decals --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" While our Europa Classic (G-MFHI) really does look rather nice, I think it could look better with a few decals - maybe on the tail and spats. Does anyone have any contacts or sources where I can buy some standard or custom decals? Peter ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:31:22 PM PST US From: N55XS Subject: Re: Europa-List: decals --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS Peter Rees wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" > >While our Europa Classic (G-MFHI) really does look rather nice, I think it >could look better with a few decals - maybe on the tail and spats. > >Does anyone have any contacts or sources where I can buy some standard or >custom decals? > >Peter > > Peter, Any local sign/graphics shop should be able to design anything you want. I do it here, in the states... -- Jeff A055 FWF and paint the wings. That's it... :) Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com -- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:50 PM PST US Received-SPF: none From: "Bill & Sue Sisley" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel vent position --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" Mike, Mine is plumbed this way. The vent is a "flush vent" just behind the starboard flap cross tube hinge under the fuselage. Does not gather any dirt and has operated perfectly for 287 hrs. Sue and Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Europa-List: Fuel vent position > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" > > I have the tank vent and the sight guage return tube entering the top of the fuel filler housing and another tube from the fuel filler running down to below the baggage shelf ready to reach the outside via the metal vent tube. > I think I shall have this tube pass through the skin about 3 inches outboard of the stb flap tube hinge so that it is clear of any crud thrown up by the mono wheeel. > Are there any better ideas to keep the tubing clear of the flap tube movement? > Any reports from those using this repositioned vent system? > Thanks. > Mike Gamble > XS mono 440 > >