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1. 04:21 AM - Re: Radio Question (R.C.Harrison)
2. 05:03 AM - Re: Radio Question (Troy Maynor)
3. 06:29 AM - 2 Different Sizes of Rudder Cable Pulleys????? (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
4. 06:38 AM - Re: Fuel vent position (Fred Fillinger)
5. 06:41 AM - Re: Fuel vent position (Fred Fillinger)
6. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: Over Voltage (Troy Maynor)
7. 09:17 AM - Re: Over Voltage (Jan de Jong)
8. 11:06 AM - Redundant fuel vent lines (Erich Trombley)
9. 11:10 AM - Re: Radio Question (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
10. 01:55 PM - Re: 2 Different Sizes of Rudder Cable Pulleys????? (Rowland Carson)
11. 02:01 PM - Re: Radio Question (Paul Stewart)
12. 02:50 PM - Re: 2 Different Sizes of Rudder Cable Pulleys????? (SteveD)
13. 02:58 PM - Re: Radio Question (Kingsley Hurst)
14. 03:23 PM - Re: Radio Question (Simon Smith)
15. 03:45 PM - Re: Radio Question (Duncan McFadyean)
16. 03:52 PM - Re: Radio Question (Paul McAllister)
17. 04:10 PM - Re: Fuel vent position (Cliff Shaw)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Martin.
I have an Icom IA 200 and for some reason (can't remember what now) I
had a Sigtronic SPA 400 T50 voice activated Intercom fitted. This part
of the system works fine, however the Icom unit gives me great
frustration in that the Automatic Squelch takes out the incoming signal
with all unwanted noise. The only way I can communicate with ground when
at medium and long distances is to use the Test Button which completely
dumps the squelch control. I have had numerous attempts and specialists
attempts to improve it, I have been advised to try 1/4 turn clockwise of
the Auto Squelch adjust screw, there is a very slight improvement, but
generally it isn't fit for purpose. UK Authorities will not accept new
installations with it. The radio was set to a WSWR meter by a
professional to the dipole aerial of Bob Archers notability complete
with the requisite ferrite balons etc. and also a pucker Air World
aerial has been fitted with an adequate ground plane with little or no
improvement. There is an Aluminium shield between the Panel and the
firewall, the carb /throttle cable has been grounded as also the
complete radio stack, the engine compartment painted out with nickel
alloy paint all to no improvement. The set has been checked by
authorised repairers with an oscillograph to no fault found and decreed
that all parameters are within permissible settings.
We are trialling a Microair XCOM 760 this season.
If you find a solution to the Icom problem I'm dying to hear it.
BTW have you used the ICOM in Flight yet ? (sorry I meant ANGER!)
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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MJKTuck@cs.com
Subject: Europa-List: Radio Question
--> Europa-List message posted by: MJKTuck@cs.com
Hi Folks,
I have successfully wired up my Icom A-200 comm and Flightcom 403MC
intercom.
It all seems to work except I can't hear myself through the earphones
when I
transmit. I spoke to Icom tech support and they said to turn up the
sidetone
adjustment on the A-200 which I found already turned as far clockwise as
it
would go.
But still no joy. Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
Europa N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
Martin,
I'd call Flightcom. I have a Sigtronics, (still not ready to fire up) and
there is a modification neccessary if connected to certain brand
tranceivers. It involved intalling a jumper on a pc board to acquire
sidetone. Don't know about Flightcom.
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
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MJKTuck@cs.com
Subject: Europa-List: Radio Question
--> Europa-List message posted by: MJKTuck@cs.com
Hi Folks,
I have successfully wired up my Icom A-200 comm and Flightcom 403MC
intercom.
It all seems to work except I can't hear myself through the earphones when I
transmit. I spoke to Icom tech support and they said to turn up the sidetone
adjustment on the A-200 which I found already turned as far clockwise as it
would go.
But still no joy. Anybody have any similar experiences? Suggestions?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
Europa N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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| Subject: | 2 Different Sizes of Rudder Cable Pulleys????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Gaggle
While pirouetting through chapter 22 I noticed that I was given two different
sizes of the AN210-2a rudder cable pulleys. Curiously, even though they are
different sizes they both have they same part number on the parts bag! Though
I have not measured I would say that one set is at very least a half inch
smaller than the other. The manual does not mention the different sizes. My guess
is that the smaller size may be needed for fuel line clearance?????
Thanks in advance for your advice and opinion!
Brian Skelly
Texas
Europa # A276 TriGear
See My build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vent position |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> ...
> How about some of you sending a few pictures to the
> Europa Owners site?
> ...
> Thanks!
> Brian Skelly
Not much to photograph, but for similar aesthetic reasons my primary
vent is a hole in the vertical fin leading edge, which is a short
pitot tube inside, with water trap using 1/4" nylon hardware.
I hope there's no airworthiness issue this way, other than no good for
IFR in icing conditions. Good thing she's a homebuilt, as FAA
otherwise still requires icing tests even if not certificated for
"known ice!" But it also makes it less important that my 2nd vent
line (through the fuel sender mounting plate) terminates in a flush
vent on the bottom of the aircraft, near the wing root.
The 2nd vent in this location could reduce what little positive
pressure there is at the main vent at low airspeeds during the
critical phases of flight. To be tested soon, though.
Some production A/C with low wings have an arrangement which puts
positive pressure in the vent, even though a pump is still needed to
suck the fuel. Guess they do so for good reason, though FAA rules
silent there. Head pressure if fuel is low ain't much at all, and
perhaps this is to not aggravate a condition where the pump isn't
sucking too well (e.g., vapor lock). PA-28 type airplanes get away
with some negative pressure in their vented cap setup though.
> While I am a number of chapters away from venting the tank and sight
tube...
If pressure in both tubes in the slipstream is not identical, said
sight gauge will be more useless in flight yet. I have a sight gauge
also, but it's for visual check of quantity on the ground. In the
corner behind passenger side seat upholstery; un-Velcro the seat back
to tilt forward and peek. It vents back into top of tank.
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vent position |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
R.C.Harrison wrote:
> ...necessary to have an anti-siphon bottle which empties back
> to tank.... My bottle is a castrol 1/2 litre oil bottle glassed
into
> place with the neck lower looking back to the starboard side.
I have a knee-jerk problem with design fixes seen on no production A/C
as far as I know. Could not the problem be fixed with a modification
to the aluminum vent fitting? Like adding a metal tube to extend the
tank's vent arrangement all the way to the front corner of the tank?
Has anyone test that?
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Re: Over Voltage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
Hi All,
Thanks to each and everyone that responded to my query on this. I think I
will not worry about it since I have a monitoring system. Anyone interested
in the parts from Aeroelectric? I'll pay the shipping.
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
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| Subject: | Re: Over Voltage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jan de Jong <jan.de.jong@xs4all.nl>
>
>
>Bob Nuckolls thinks OV protection is necessary. In the absence of
>evidence to the contrary I will go with that (probably using Eric Jones'
>device).
>The alternative is a "loud" OV warning and quick human action.
>
Bob Nuckolls is conducting interesting experiments:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Crowbar_OV_Protection/DC_Power_System_Dynamics_C.pdf
It would seem that a "loud" OV warning is enough protection provided the
battery is in reasonable shape.
Jan de Jong
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| Subject: | Redundant fuel vent lines |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
Fred wrote
"For production aircraft, FAA requires two vents if you have one tank.
Another rule says a sole, exposed vent on the bottom of the aircraft
can be clogged by mud or snow."
I am using one vent which exits the fuselage just in front of the flap pivot bracket.
However, I have plumbed into the vent line with a "tee" (inside the fuselage)
and a check valve. As we all know when the vent line gets clogged with
mud/crud the engine will eventually get starved of fuel due to a vacuum in the
tank. However, with the check valve inline with the fuel vent it will open
under a vacuum and provide cabin pressure to the tank thus keeping the engine
running. I don't have the specifics of the check valve on hand although I did
purchase it through McMaster Carr. The check valve is for vapor not liquids
and needs to be capable of withstanding fuel.
Regards,
Erich Trombley
N28ET
Classic Mono 914
Now includes pop-up blocker!
Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Bob,
It seems the Xcom 760 has been around for a couple of years now. I remember
some people on this forum installed these in their aircraft. It would be nice
to get some actual feedback of real life use of this unit. Anybody got any?
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Just about to put the top on but still finding little things to do before
that.
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| Subject: | Re: 2 Different Sizes of Rudder Cable Pulleys????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2005-03-23 09:27 -0500 EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
>While pirouetting through chapter 22 I noticed that I was given two different
>sizes of the AN210-2a rudder cable pulleys. Curiously, even though they are
>different sizes they both have they same part number on the parts bag! Though
>I have not measured I would say that one set is at very least a half inch
>smaller than the other
Brian - my (monowheel) parts schedule only calls out 2-off AN210-2A,
and my parts box has 2 identical ones, inside a single Europa bag.
They are both about 63mm max dia. Sorry, but it sounds like you have
a rogue there somehow!
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Bob
Do you mean the Microair M760 or the XCOM 760? My understanding is that
the latter has been available for under a year and that it is not
approved by the CAA for installation in UK aircraft (sad 'cos we liked
the look of it).
On the same topic - has anyone any experience of the Microair M760
transiever with the XCOM intercom?
Regards
Paul Strewart #432
Sanding, sanding , sanding, sand..............
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| Subject: | RE: 2 Different Sizes of Rudder Cable Pulleys????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Hi Brian,
I've got an extra, PM me your address and I'll pop it in the mail....
Steved.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
>On the same topic - has anyone any experience of the Microair M760
transiever with the XCOM intercom?
Paul,
I have a friend with a Jabiru with the Microair M760 - XCOM Intercom
combination and he reports it works very satisfactorily.
Regards
Kingsley Hurst
Mono Classic 281 in Oz
If only I could get to work on the aircraft for as long as interruptions
prevent me from doing so !!
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
I've seen an Xcom in a UK reg'd Europa.
I believe that it has been approved in Finland and is thus EASA'd which
overrules the CAA?????
Simon
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radio Question
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart
--> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Bob
Do you mean the Microair M760 or the XCOM 760? My understanding is that
the latter has been available for under a year and that it is not
approved by the CAA for installation in UK aircraft (sad 'cos we liked
the look of it).
On the same topic - has anyone any experience of the Microair M760
transiever with the XCOM intercom?
Regards
Paul Strewart #432
Sanding, sanding , sanding, sand..............
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
The Equipment Approvals section of the CAA website now says:
........Since EASA became operational on 28 September 2003, the
aircraft equipment approval process has changed. For further information,
please contact 01293 573134 or e-mail mailto:aircraft.systems@srg.caa.co.uk
There is still a list of approved equipment however, implying
that anything that is not on it is not CAA approved. Which means.........??
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Radio Question
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
>
> I've seen an Xcom in a UK reg'd Europa.
>
> I believe that it has been approved in Finland and is thus EASA'd which
> overrules the CAA?????
>
> Simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radio Question
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart
> --> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Bob
>
> Do you mean the Microair M760 or the XCOM 760? My understanding is that
> the latter has been available for under a year and that it is not
> approved by the CAA for installation in UK aircraft (sad 'cos we liked
> the look of it).
>
> On the same topic - has anyone any experience of the Microair M760
> transiever with the XCOM intercom?
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Strewart #432
>
> Sanding, sanding , sanding, sand..............
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
I have an XCOM and it works very nicely. - Paul
>On the same topic - has anyone any experience of the Microair M760
>transiever with the XCOM intercom?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel vent position |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
> How about some of you sending a few pictures to the Europa Owners site?
Look in my pictures for #278 . (not much to look at) It is on the
centerline under the baggage bay.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
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