---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/29/05: 32 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:16 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 03/28/05 (Graham Singleton) 2. 02:28 AM - Re: Sun' n Fun (Alan Burrows) 3. 03:32 AM - Re: Sun' n Fun (Bill Henderson) 4. 04:42 AM - Re: Sun' n Fun (Alan Burrows) 5. 04:53 AM - Mono Brake Bleed (Jim Butcher) 6. 04:53 AM - Re: Sun' n Fun (Bill Henderson) 7. 05:10 AM - Re: Mono Brake Bleed (Paul McAllister) 8. 05:33 AM - Re: Mono Brake Bleed (Fred Fillinger) 9. 05:38 AM - Re: Before Installing Cockpit Module (Fred Fillinger) 10. 05:55 AM - Re: Mono Brake Bleed (R.C.Harrison) 11. 05:55 AM - Re: Sun' n Fun (Jim Puglise) 12. 06:11 AM - Europaowners Gallery (Troy Maynor) 13. 07:07 AM - WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 (mau11) 14. 09:04 AM - Re: Mono Brake Bleed (N55XS) 15. 09:19 AM - Re: Mono Brake Bleed (Peter Rees) 16. 11:55 AM - Re: Sun' n Fun (Steven Pitt) 17. 12:25 PM - Radio question (Paul Stewart) 18. 01:16 PM - Re: Radio question (ivor.phillips) 19. 01:34 PM - Re: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 (Houlihan,Tim) 20. 02:14 PM - Aerodur (Paul Stewart) 21. 02:32 PM - Rotax 912S power issue (Sven den Boer) 22. 02:39 PM - Re: Radio question () 23. 02:49 PM - Re: Mono Brake Bleed (Jim Brown) 24. 04:09 PM - Re: Radio question (Paul McAllister) 25. 05:07 PM - Re: Rotax 912S power issue (Cliff Shaw) 26. 05:46 PM - Re: Radio question (Kingsley Hurst) 27. 06:31 PM - Re: Radio question () 28. 07:10 PM - FIRST FLIGHT (CHUCK RHOADS) 29. 08:44 PM - Re: FIRST FLIGHT (JEFF ROBERTS) 30. 09:53 PM - Rudder cable routing (grroberts3@juno.com) 31. 10:55 PM - Re: Rotax 912S power issue (R Holder) 32. 11:40 PM - Re: Radio question (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:10 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 03/28/05 --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton > it was said the crash requirements drove the rubber > tube. > That would require an all-knowing assumption as to the most common destruction mode of the structure in the event of a crash. Then test it, both metal and rubber lines, in crashes. :-) Our gov't actually does that for free, where auto mfrs supply vehicles to crash, and "Detroit" at times gets it wrong. Common practice if in doubt is a short flexible hose at the tank, thence aluminum. Seems not much space at the tank outlet to provide for "crashability" by design of the bend in a pipe and attention to attach points. 2024 aluminum is common with fuel lines. Most people use 3003 Versatube for the fuel lines, sometimes 5052 which is a bit stiffer. versatube is almost as soft as rubber (;-) Not too difficult to go all the way to the firewall. IMHO 2024 is too stiff . Graham -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:27 AM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" I am flying from U.K. this weekend to attend Sun n Fun is there any europa gathering taking place, if not anyone fancy meeting up whilst out there? Alan Trigear G CBWF 914 airmaster Aprox 120 hrs -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Huntington Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington --> Further to my last message, my email address is rob@phoenixcomposites.com and our phone number is 480-924-9750. Thanks for the recommendation Jim. Rob Huntington Phoenix Composites Jim Puglise wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" Rmi- If you are going to Phoenix, you need to hook up with the people at Phoenix Composites. They were doing something similar to Flite Crafters in the Phoenix area. I don't know how many Europas they have done, but I am sure they have a handle on who is doing what in that part of the country. Jim, A283, Punta Gorda, FL -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rmi Guerner Subject: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rmi Guerner" Any Europa going to Sunn Fun ? I will be there on April 12 and 13 and will be happy to meet with other Europa owners. I will spend the following week-end (April 16-17 ) in Phoenix, AZ. I would appreciate to talk Europa with those of you who are flying/building in the Phoenix area. Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting . Remi Guerner F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 300 hours, upgraded from a 914 to a 912S. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:34 AM PST US From: "Bill Henderson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" If I read the vendor list correctly it appears Europa will be at Sun-n-Fun this year in space S-024. The map shows them across from the food area on the back row against the trees. We might could all meet up at their location and plan something for later on in the week. Maybe find us a local restaurant and do our own "mini" banquet even if it's just McDonald's..... Bill A010 Europa Monowheel Classic Atlanta, GA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" > > > I am flying from U.K. this weekend to attend Sun n Fun is there any > europa gathering taking place, if not anyone fancy meeting up whilst out > there? > > Alan > Trigear G CBWF > 914 airmaster > Aprox 120 hrs > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob > Huntington > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington > --> > > Further to my last message, my email address is > rob@phoenixcomposites.com and our phone number is 480-924-9750. Thanks > for the recommendation Jim. > > Rob Huntington > Phoenix Composites > > Jim Puglise wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" > > Rmi- > > If you are going to Phoenix, you need to hook up with the people at > Phoenix Composites. They were doing something similar to Flite Crafters > in the Phoenix area. I don't know how many Europas they have done, but I > am sure they have a handle on who is doing what in that part of the > country. > > Jim, A283, Punta Gorda, FL > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rmi Guerner > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rmi Guerner" > > > Any Europa going to Sunn Fun ? I will be there on April 12 and 13 and > will be happy to meet with other Europa owners. I will spend the > following week-end (April 16-17 ) in Phoenix, AZ. I would appreciate to > talk Europa with those of you who are flying/building in the Phoenix > area. Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting . Remi Guerner > F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 300 hours, upgraded from a 914 to a 912S. > > > --------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:59 AM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" I'm up for that can we fix something up and maybe leave a note with Europa advising of the time and place so others can get details as they visit the stand Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Henderson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" --> If I read the vendor list correctly it appears Europa will be at Sun-n-Fun this year in space S-024. The map shows them across from the food area on the back row against the trees. We might could all meet up at their location and plan something for later on in the week. Maybe find us a local restaurant and do our own "mini" banquet even if it's just McDonald's..... Bill A010 Europa Monowheel Classic Atlanta, GA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" > > > I am flying from U.K. this weekend to attend Sun n Fun is there any > europa gathering taking place, if not anyone fancy meeting up whilst > out there? > > Alan > Trigear G CBWF > 914 airmaster > Aprox 120 hrs > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob > Huntington > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington > --> > > Further to my last message, my email address is > rob@phoenixcomposites.com and our phone number is 480-924-9750. Thanks > for the recommendation Jim. > > Rob Huntington > Phoenix Composites > > Jim Puglise wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" > > Rmi- > > If you are going to Phoenix, you need to hook up with the people at > Phoenix Composites. They were doing something similar to Flite > Crafters in the Phoenix area. I don't know how many Europas they have > done, but I am sure they have a handle on who is doing what in that > part of the country. > > Jim, A283, Punta Gorda, FL > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rmi > Guerner > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rmi Guerner" > > > Any Europa going to Sunn Fun ? I will be there on April 12 and 13 and > will be happy to meet with other Europa owners. I will spend the > following week-end (April 16-17 ) in Phoenix, AZ. I would appreciate > to talk Europa with those of you who are flying/building in the > Phoenix area. Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting . Remi > Guerner F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 300 hours, upgraded from a 914 to > a 912S. > > > --------------------------------- > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:17 AM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" Having difficulity bleeding the brake on our monowheel. I understand that the fluid needs to enter at the bleed valve on the caliper but how does one do this? I tried just pumping the master cylinder hoping it would suck up the fluid without success. Also tried filling the master cylinder and pumping fluid to the caliper without success. I notice on this forum that Bob Harrison used a "squeezy bottle" to force fluid into the caliper. What's a "squeezy bottle"? Thanks Jim Butcher A185 B241BW finishing engine install & FWF wiring ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:18 AM PST US From: "Bill Henderson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" Guess we can play it by ear when we get there. I'll be arriving on Wednesday, 4/13. Maybe whoever get's there first can talk with someone from Europa and see if we can set something up. Anyone out there have any ideas????? Bill A010 Monowheel Classic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" > > > I'm up for that can we fix something up and maybe leave a note with > Europa advising of the time and place so others can get details as they > visit the stand > > Alan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill > Henderson > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" > --> > > If I read the vendor list correctly it appears Europa will be at > Sun-n-Fun > this year in space S-024. The map shows them across from the food area > on > the back row against the trees. We might could all meet up at their > location and plan something for later on in the week. Maybe find us a > local > restaurant and do our own "mini" banquet even if it's just > McDonald's..... > > Bill > A010 Europa Monowheel Classic > Atlanta, GA. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Burrows" > To: > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" >> >> >> I am flying from U.K. this weekend to attend Sun n Fun is there any >> europa gathering taking place, if not anyone fancy meeting up whilst >> out there? >> >> Alan >> Trigear G CBWF >> 914 airmaster >> Aprox 120 hrs >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob >> Huntington >> To: europa-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun >> >> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington >> --> >> >> Further to my last message, my email address is >> rob@phoenixcomposites.com and our phone number is 480-924-9750. Thanks > >> for the recommendation Jim. >> >> Rob Huntington >> Phoenix Composites >> >> Jim Puglise wrote: >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" >> >> Rmi- >> >> If you are going to Phoenix, you need to hook up with the people at >> Phoenix Composites. They were doing something similar to Flite >> Crafters in the Phoenix area. I don't know how many Europas they have >> done, but I am sure they have a handle on who is doing what in that >> part of the country. >> >> Jim, A283, Punta Gorda, FL >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rmi >> Guerner >> To: europa-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun >> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rmi Guerner" >> >> >> Any Europa going to Sunn Fun ? I will be there on April 12 and 13 and >> will be happy to meet with other Europa owners. I will spend the >> following week-end (April 16-17 ) in Phoenix, AZ. I would appreciate >> to talk Europa with those of you who are flying/building in the >> Phoenix area. Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting . Remi >> Guerner F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 300 hours, upgraded from a 914 to > >> a 912S. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:55 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" > > Having difficulity bleeding the brake on our monowheel. I understand that > the fluid needs to enter at the bleed valve on the caliper but how does > one do this? I tried just pumping the master cylinder hoping it would > suck up the fluid without success. Also tried filling the master cylinder > and pumping fluid to the caliper without success. I notice on this forum > that Bob Harrison used a "squeezy bottle" to force fluid into the caliper. > What's a "squeezy bottle"? > > Thanks > > Jim Butcher A185 B241BW > finishing engine install & FWF wiring > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:19 AM PST US From: "Fred Fillinger" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" Jim Butcher wrote: > Having difficulity bleeding the brake on our monowheel.... Harbor Freight and such sell a manual vacuum pump, inlcuding a clever bottle used to intercept and observe fluid sucked out of the bleeder screw. Just need to keep the master cylinder level up. My IA/A&P with 50 yrs exp, and erstwhile A&P school instructor, had never seen that technique and was rather amazed as I was quickly completing a brake ass'y swap. It's handy also to find leaks in static lines, if very careful to avoid sudden pressure changes in pressure instruments. Reg, Fred F. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:40 AM PST US From: "Fred Fillinger" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Before Installing Cockpit Module --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" >> 2024 aluminum is common with fuel lines. > Most people use 3003 Versatube for the fuel lines, sometimes > 5052 which is a bit stiffer. versatube is almost as soft as rubber (;-) > Not too difficult to go all the way to the firewall. IMHO 2024 is too stiff . > Graham Come to think, I have to agree on ductile 3003. Just doesn't look as pretty. There was an interesting NASA display at an Oshkosh once. Actual crashed fiberglass structures; slow-motion video of their tests. Composites flex very considerably, before tearing the cloth, giving the final appearance of the plane just "breaking" in places. After seeing all that, I concluded a flex line at least at the tank connections might be best. But I really don't know for sure! Reg, Fred F. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:27 AM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Hi! Jim . For the initial charging of the fluid obviously air rises so the bleed screw needs to be at the low side of the slave or calliper cylinder and the system supply pipe needs connecting at the upper location on the calliper back to the master cylinder. This enables the air to rise and be forced back through the system to exit at the master cylinder. To pressure feed from the bleed nipple I connected a flexible pipe to the top of a washing up soap bottle or any clean plastic bottle (preferably clear so you can see the oil air levels) full of the requisite oil, inverted the bottle after connection then squeeze the bottle, pressure forcing oil from the bottle through the slave cylinder back to the master cylinder taking all air before it. You must stop before the squeeze bottle is empty though or you will be pushing air in again! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Butcher Subject: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" Having difficulity bleeding the brake on our monowheel. I understand that the fluid needs to enter at the bleed valve on the caliper but how does one do this? I tried just pumping the master cylinder hoping it would suck up the fluid without success. Also tried filling the master cylinder and pumping fluid to the caliper without success. I notice on this forum that Bob Harrison used a "squeezy bottle" to force fluid into the caliper. What's a "squeezy bottle"? Thanks Jim Butcher A185 B241BW finishing engine install & FWF wiring ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:55:57 AM PST US From: "Jim Puglise" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" I talked with Bob Berube from Flite Crafters and they will be building a Zeanir (I think) at Sun-N-Fun. I sure he would serve as an unofficial meeting place. Lynne and I will be there Thursday and Friday. Jim Puglise, A283 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Henderson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" Guess we can play it by ear when we get there. I'll be arriving on Wednesday, 4/13. Maybe whoever get's there first can talk with someone from Europa and see if we can set something up. Anyone out there have any ideas????? Bill A010 Monowheel Classic ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" > > > I'm up for that can we fix something up and maybe leave a note with > Europa advising of the time and place so others can get details as they > visit the stand > > Alan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill > Henderson > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" > --> > > If I read the vendor list correctly it appears Europa will be at > Sun-n-Fun > this year in space S-024. The map shows them across from the food area > on > the back row against the trees. We might could all meet up at their > location and plan something for later on in the week. Maybe find us a > local > restaurant and do our own "mini" banquet even if it's just > McDonald's..... > > Bill > A010 Europa Monowheel Classic > Atlanta, GA. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Burrows" > To: > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" >> >> >> I am flying from U.K. this weekend to attend Sun n Fun is there any >> europa gathering taking place, if not anyone fancy meeting up whilst >> out there? >> >> Alan >> Trigear G CBWF >> 914 airmaster >> Aprox 120 hrs >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob >> Huntington >> To: europa-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun >> >> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington >> --> >> >> Further to my last message, my email address is >> rob@phoenixcomposites.com and our phone number is 480-924-9750. Thanks > >> for the recommendation Jim. >> >> Rob Huntington >> Phoenix Composites >> >> Jim Puglise wrote: >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" >> >> Rmi- >> >> If you are going to Phoenix, you need to hook up with the people at >> Phoenix Composites. They were doing something similar to Flite >> Crafters in the Phoenix area. I don't know how many Europas they have >> done, but I am sure they have a handle on who is doing what in that >> part of the country. >> >> Jim, A283, Punta Gorda, FL >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rmi >> Guerner >> To: europa-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun >> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rmi Guerner" >> >> >> Any Europa going to Sunn Fun ? I will be there on April 12 and 13 and >> will be happy to meet with other Europa owners. I will spend the >> following week-end (April 16-17 ) in Phoenix, AZ. I would appreciate >> to talk Europa with those of you who are flying/building in the >> Phoenix area. Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting . Remi >> Guerner F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 300 hours, upgraded from a 914 to > >> a 912S. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:03 AM PST US From: "Troy Maynor" Subject: Europa-List: Europaowners Gallery --> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <<>>> Hello, I was wondering if someone could include the builders' names on all of the albums. I could not find these pictures. The server seemed to not be loading most of the pictures anyway. I may have been a temporary problem. Thanks. Troy ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:12 AM PST US From: "mau11" Subject: Europa-List: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" I heard a Europa builders buy this propeller in UK. Do you have flight news? Do you have a PFA documents to install this propeller with a 912 engine on a Europa monowheel? Thank you --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY N=B0145 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:04:52 AM PST US From: N55XS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS Jim Butcher wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" > >Having difficulity bleeding the brake on our monowheel. I understand that the fluid needs to enter at the bleed valve on the caliper but how does one do this? I tried just pumping the master cylinder hoping it would suck up the fluid without success. Also tried filling the master cylinder and pumping fluid to the caliper without success. I notice on this forum that Bob Harrison used a "squeezy bottle" to force fluid into the caliper. What's a "squeezy bottle"? > >Thanks > >Jim Butcher A185 B241BW >finishing engine install & FWF wiring > > > > Jim, I went through all the usual headaches, including the suction pump, on my tri-grear. My solution was to fill the reservoir and pressurise it to about 30 PSI, using an air supply and blowgun, having my son open the caliper bleeder and pushing about 3/4s of the the fluid out of the reservoir, before closing the bleeder and refilling the reservoir. After about three refills, the system was bubble free and working fine. Jeff - A055 Almost there. FWF left to do, before first flight... -- ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:19:51 AM PST US From: "Peter Rees" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" If the brakes on the mono wheel are anything like those on our Tri - its simple - use a syringe and a bit of tubing. Remove the bleed valve on the master cylinder, fit the syringe to the bleed nipple on the wheel cylinder using the short length of tubing and 'inject' the fluid until the syringe is almost empty - then lock the nipple off and repeat until the master cylinder is full. Worked a treat for me - took about 10 minutes (plus an hour to find the right size tubing). Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" > > Having difficulity bleeding the brake on our monowheel. I understand that > the fluid needs to enter at the bleed valve on the caliper but how does > one do this? I tried just pumping the master cylinder hoping it would > suck up the fluid without success. Also tried filling the master cylinder > and pumping fluid to the caliper without success. I notice on this forum > that Bob Harrison used a "squeezy bottle" to force fluid into the caliper. > What's a "squeezy bottle"? > > Thanks > > Jim Butcher A185 B241BW > finishing engine install & FWF wiring > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:04 AM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" Dear All I will be out at Sun'n'Fun for the week and should have Andy Draper and a couple of others staying with me in Kissimmee. I do have a couple of beds to let for the week so if anyone is interested contact me off line. Regards Steve Pitt #403 XS Trigear G-SMDH (frustratingly close to lift off - if I ever finish the sanding and filling!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Puglise" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" > > I talked with Bob Berube from Flite Crafters and they will be building a > Zeanir (I think) at Sun-N-Fun. I sure he would serve as an unofficial > meeting place. Lynne and I will be there Thursday and Friday. > > Jim Puglise, A283 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill > Henderson > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" > > > Guess we can play it by ear when we get there. I'll be arriving on > Wednesday, 4/13. Maybe whoever get's there first can talk with someone > from > Europa and see if we can set something up. > Anyone out there have any ideas????? > > Bill > A010 Monowheel Classic > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Burrows" > To: > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" > > > > > > I'm up for that can we fix something up and maybe leave a note with > > Europa advising of the time and place so others can get details as > they > > visit the stand > > > > Alan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill > > Henderson > > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" > > --> > > > > If I read the vendor list correctly it appears Europa will be at > > Sun-n-Fun > > this year in space S-024. The map shows them across from the food > area > > on > > the back row against the trees. We might could all meet up at their > > location and plan something for later on in the week. Maybe find us a > > local > > restaurant and do our own "mini" banquet even if it's just > > McDonald's..... > > > > Bill > > A010 Europa Monowheel Classic > > Atlanta, GA. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alan Burrows" > > To: > > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > > > > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" > >> > >> > >> I am flying from U.K. this weekend to attend Sun n Fun is there any > >> europa gathering taking place, if not anyone fancy meeting up whilst > >> out there? > >> > >> Alan > >> Trigear G CBWF > >> 914 airmaster > >> Aprox 120 hrs > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob > >> Huntington > >> To: europa-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > >> > >> > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington > >> --> > >> > >> Further to my last message, my email address is > >> rob@phoenixcomposites.com and our phone number is 480-924-9750. > Thanks > > > >> for the recommendation Jim. > >> > >> Rob Huntington > >> Phoenix Composites > >> > >> Jim Puglise wrote: > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" > >> > >> Rmi- > >> > >> If you are going to Phoenix, you need to hook up with the people at > >> Phoenix Composites. They were doing something similar to Flite > >> Crafters in the Phoenix area. I don't know how many Europas they have > >> done, but I am sure they have a handle on who is doing what in that > >> part of the country. > >> > >> Jim, A283, Punta Gorda, FL > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > >> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rmi > >> Guerner > >> To: europa-list@matronics.com > >> Subject: Europa-List: Sun' n Fun > >> > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rmi Guerner" > >> > >> > >> Any Europa going to Sunn Fun ? I will be there on April 12 and 13 and > >> will be happy to meet with other Europa owners. I will spend the > >> following week-end (April 16-17 ) in Phoenix, AZ. I would appreciate > >> to talk Europa with those of you who are flying/building in the > >> Phoenix area. Please let me know if we can arrange a meeting . Remi > >> Guerner F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 300 hours, upgraded from a 914 > to > > > >> a 912S. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:25:11 PM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart Following a few threads over the past year or so with regard to the XCOM 760 radio I thought the views of the CAA might be of interest: Dear Mr Stewart Unfortunately, the XCOM 760 is not approved for use in Europe either under the CAA or EASA, it is only approved in the USA and Australia. It is not possible at this time to approve the equipment through EASA as no agreement between the authorities, or higher (i.e.. government) exists. If you require further information or assistance, then please do not hesitate to contact me. Yours sincerely Mrs Helen Brown Administrator Aircraft Systems & Equipment Department Civil Aviation Authority Safety Regulation Group Aviation House Gatwick Airport South West Sussex RH6 0YR ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:16:39 PM PST US From: "ivor.phillips" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" This is the reply i had from XCOM earlier this week on this issue. We are still working at it... with approvals for Finland now done acceptance should be automatic, will keep you posted. Thanks Michael ivor.phillips wrote: > What progress have you had with certifying the Xcom 760 with the CAA > for use in United Kingdom Airspace ? > > regards > Ivor Phillips > -- With regards, Michael Coates XCOM Avionics mailto:info@xcom760.com Web Site: http://www.xcom760.com From: "Paul Stewart" Subject: Europa-List: Radio question > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart > > Following a few threads over the past year or so with regard to the XCOM > 760 radio I thought the views of the CAA might be of interest: > > Dear Mr Stewart > > Unfortunately, the XCOM 760 is not approved for use in Europe either under > the CAA or EASA, it is only approved in the USA and Australia. > > It is not possible at this time to approve the equipment through EASA as > no > agreement between the authorities, or higher (i.e.. government) exists. > > If you require further information or assistance, then please do not > hesitate to contact me. > > Yours sincerely > > Mrs Helen Brown > > Administrator > Aircraft Systems & Equipment Department > > Civil Aviation Authority > Safety Regulation Group > Aviation House > Gatwick Airport South > West Sussex > RH6 0YR > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:34:26 PM PST US From: "Houlihan,Tim" Subject: RE: Europa-List: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Houlihan,Tim" I have recently taken delivery of an SR2000 prop for my Europa Classic, but no flight details yet. Woodcomp have developed a spinner to suit the Rotax powered classic aircraft and I must say it looks great. At least one other classic owner has ordered a Woodcomp so we can expect some news soon. regards Tim Houlihan No 10 G-BZTH -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of mau11 Subject: Europa-List: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" I heard a Europa builders buy this propeller in UK. Do you have flight news? Do you have a PFA documents to install this propeller with a 912 engine on a Europa monowheel? Thank you --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY N=B0145 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:14:57 PM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: Aerodur --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart Anyone got ay experience of using Aerodur's brushing filler (pin hole filler) Regards Paul Stewart ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:32:44 PM PST US From: "Sven den Boer" Subject: Europa-List: Rotax 912S power issue --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" During take-off power no problems, at throtlinging back 200-300 rpm at 700 feet, the engine starts to run rough for 1-2 seconds, as if it's running on 3 cylinders, thereafter no observations. Engine has been checked by Rotax dealer on ignition and carb balancing, nothing found. Any suggestions ? Sven den Boer ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:32 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: Folks, a word of caution when dealing with XCOM. I ordered their intercom and a harness to switch between two Microair 760's. The harness was junk and did not work. Michael would go months and months without answering my emails. Finally, after two years he said send it back and he would refund my $$ by crediting my credit card. He did not refund the money. Beware! Tom Friedland A079 XS mono Jab3300 Airmaster -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivor.phillips Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" --> This is the reply i had from XCOM earlier this week on this issue. We are still working at it... with approvals for Finland now done acceptance should be automatic, will keep you posted. Thanks Michael ivor.phillips wrote: > What progress have you had with certifying the Xcom 760 with the CAA > for use in United Kingdom Airspace ? > > regards > Ivor Phillips > -- With regards, Michael Coates XCOM Avionics mailto:info@xcom760.com Web Site: http://www.xcom760.com From: "Paul Stewart" Subject: Europa-List: Radio question > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart > --> > > Following a few threads over the past year or so with regard to the > XCOM 760 radio I thought the views of the CAA might be of interest: > > Dear Mr Stewart > > Unfortunately, the XCOM 760 is not approved for use in Europe either > under the CAA or EASA, it is only approved in the USA and Australia. > > It is not possible at this time to approve the equipment through EASA > as > no > agreement between the authorities, or higher (i.e.. government) exists. > > If you require further information or assistance, then please do not > hesitate to contact me. > > Yours sincerely > > Mrs Helen Brown > > Administrator > Aircraft Systems & Equipment Department > > Civil Aviation Authority > Safety Regulation Group > Aviation House > Gatwick Airport South > West Sussex > RH6 0YR > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. -- ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:49:11 PM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Brake Bleed --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown Jim Go to a hardware store, they have oil can oilers, they hold about 6 ounces of oil or brake fluid, it has a flexible spout that you can put a piece of rubber on and connect to the bleeding valve, then just pump the brake fluid up to the master cylinder. It goes without saying to loosen the cap on the master cylinder so that the air will have a place to escape. The oiler has a one way valve so that the fluid will not run back into it. This is the way I do my monowheel Jim Brown N398JB 600 + hrs Jim Butcher wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" > > Having difficulity bleeding the brake on our monowheel. I understand that the fluid needs to enter at the bleed valve on the caliper but how does one do this? I tried just pumping the master cylinder hoping it would suck up the fluid without success. Also tried filling the master cylinder and pumping fluid to the caliper without success. I notice on this forum that Bob Harrison used a "squeezy bottle" to force fluid into the caliper. What's a "squeezy bottle"? > > Thanks > > Jim Butcher A185 B241BW > finishing engine install & FWF wiring > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:22 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi all, Interestingly enough I had exactly the reverse service. My XCOM intercom took a dump so I called Michael up. He immediately shipped me a brand new one with a return envelope for the old one. No money changed hands. I did find that emails to him never worked, I used the telephone. Paul > Folks, a word of caution when dealing with XCOM. > > I ordered their intercom and a harness to switch between two Microair > 760's. > The harness was junk and did not work. Michael would go months and months > without answering my emails. Finally, after two years he said send it > back > and he would refund my $$ by crediting my credit card. He did not refund > the money. > > Beware! > > Tom Friedland A079 XS mono Jab3300 Airmaster > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:07:17 PM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax 912S power issue --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Sven den Boer I think I had similar problems. I have done several thing and now things are working much better. It is very unnerving to do a clime-out and then back off on the throttle only to have the engine start to run rough. When I went back to full power it was OK and then ran rough again when I pulled the throttle back a little. One thing that helped was to remember to put the carb vent tubes in the air box. This is not in the firewall foreword instruction, but it is in the Rotax service manual. (I found it there later) Another thing is to increase the spring tension on the carbs for the throttle cable. The spring that pulls the cable to full throttle. These springs are a bit week for the way I installed the cables. And the last thought on this problem is "carb ice" . I thought at one time that was the answer, now I am not so sure. I did install Skydrive Carb Heaters, and a bunch of work with the muffler (silence for the decedents of my ancestors) to prevent backfiring and the resulting high temperature in the lower cowling. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sven den Boer" Subject: Europa-List: Rotax 912S power issue > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" > > > During take-off power no problems, at throtlinging back 200-300 rpm at 700 > feet, the engine starts to run rough for 1-2 seconds, as if it's running > on > 3 cylinders, thereafter no observations. > Engine has been checked by Rotax dealer on ignition and carb balancing, > nothing found. > Any suggestions ? > > Sven den Boer > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:25 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Tom, Why are you so keen to beat up XCOM all the time? You do it every chance you get. Because of what you have said on this list, I took Michael Coates to task before I ordered my XCOM 760 radio and the story he relates to me about his dealings with you conveys a very different story. I sent him a copy of your latest posting a couple of hours ago by e-mail and received his reply exactly 30 minutes later. He commented that you were refunded on your Credit Card about 6 months ago. He is also wondering if you can explain his other satisfied customers totalling 400 odd XCOM 760 radio and 500 odd intercoms ?? On another occasion I asked Michael for his right of reply to your intercom 'junk' harness experience . . . . . the one you returned after having modified it yourself. It is not my intention to enlarge on this now but if you keep up the bagging of XCOM, I may seek approval to publish what I was told. My interest in XCOM ? NONE other than as an XCOM 760 customer, I wish to see them stay in business for the benefit of both of us. I have never met Michael Coates. I admit to having had a little difficulty myself in the past with e-mails but since using mailto:mcoates@mcp.com.au I don't seem to be having any difficulties. Regards Kingsley Hurst in Oz Do not archive --> Europa-List message posted by: Folks, a word of caution when dealing with XCOM. I ordered their intercom and a harness to switch between two Microair 760's. The harness was junk and did not work. Michael would go months and months without answering my emails. Finally, after two years he said send it back and he would refund my $$ by crediting my credit card. He did not refund the money. Beware! Tom Friedland A079 XS mono Jab3300 Airmaster ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 06:31:23 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: Kingsley All I can relate is what my experience was. Yes, he also told me that he refunded me the cost. However, it never was credited to me on my account...Why do you defend him so? "Why are you so keen to beat up XCOM all the time? You do it every chance you get." I think my last warning was the second that I have done. You also responded similarily to the first. Why? I have the paperwork showing that Michael has NEVER credited my account. I did try to correct the numerous errors in the harness that he sent. There were too many. Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst Subject: RE: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" --> Tom, Why are you so keen to beat up XCOM all the time? You do it every chance you get. Because of what you have said on this list, I took Michael Coates to task before I ordered my XCOM 760 radio and the story he relates to me about his dealings with you conveys a very different story. I sent him a copy of your latest posting a couple of hours ago by e-mail and received his reply exactly 30 minutes later. He commented that you were refunded on your Credit Card about 6 months ago. He is also wondering if you can explain his other satisfied customers totalling 400 odd XCOM 760 radio and 500 odd intercoms ?? On another occasion I asked Michael for his right of reply to your intercom 'junk' harness experience . . . . . the one you returned after having modified it yourself. It is not my intention to enlarge on this now but if you keep up the bagging of XCOM, I may seek approval to publish what I was told. My interest in XCOM ? NONE other than as an XCOM 760 customer, I wish to see them stay in business for the benefit of both of us. I have never met Michael Coates. I admit to having had a little difficulty myself in the past with e-mails but since using mailto:mcoates@mcp.com.au I don't seem to be having any difficulties. Regards Kingsley Hurst in Oz Do not archive --> Europa-List message posted by: Folks, a word of caution when dealing with XCOM. I ordered their intercom and a harness to switch between two Microair 760's. The harness was junk and did not work. Michael would go months and months without answering my emails. Finally, after two years he said send it back and he would refund my $$ by crediting my credit card. He did not refund the money. Beware! Tom Friedland A079 XS mono Jab3300 Airmaster -- No virus found in this incoming message. -- ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:49 PM PST US From: CHUCK RHOADS Subject: Europa-List: FIRST FLIGHT --> Europa-List message posted by: CHUCK RHOADS After working on a kit plane for 6 years I decided that it was time to do something else, so as of today I now have a real flying airplane. My Europa XS trike passed the FAA exam last week. My flight instructor took it up today for the first time for 20 minutes. Everything was normal and it flies well, Ill add more details as we get more testing done. I am using a GM Geo Metro 1300CC 4 cylinder engine that, with the tuned exhaust, puts out 97 HP. The motor used a Raven reduction drive and a Power Fin prop. Many different configurations have been tried before reaching a satisfactory cooling arrangement. There are approximately 60 wires going to the computer which controls ignition and the multiport fuel injection. This arrangement also no longer needs a choke and is automatically altitude compensated. Chuck Rhoads A100 N246CR Chuck Rhoads cfrhoads@yahoo.com 104 Shuttle Dr. Georgetown, KY 40324 (502) 867-7625 --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:49 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: FIRST FLIGHT --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS Congratulations Chuck! It was after talking to you in 2002 that I decided to go forward with buying A258. I will be looking forward to hearing your test results. I'll have mine at MQY in a few months to start testing myself. Hopefully we can get together after you enjoy 40 hours alone. Jeff Roberts A258 Just outside of Nashville TN On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:09 PM, CHUCK RHOADS wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: CHUCK RHOADS > > > After working on a kit plane for 6 years I decided that it was time to > do something else, so as of today I now have a real flying airplane. > My Europa XS trike passed the FAA exam last week. My flight instructor > took it up today for the first time for 20 minutes. Everything was > normal and it flies well, Ill add more details as we get more testing > done. > > I am using a GM Geo Metro 1300CC 4 cylinder engine that, with the > tuned exhaust, puts out 97 HP. The motor used a Raven reduction drive > and a Power Fin prop. Many different configurations have been tried > before reaching a satisfactory cooling arrangement. There are > approximately 60 wires going to the computer which controls ignition > and the multiport fuel injection. This arrangement also no longer > needs a choke and is automatically altitude compensated. > > Chuck Rhoads A100 > > N246CR > > > Chuck Rhoads > cfrhoads@yahoo.com > 104 Shuttle Dr. > Georgetown, KY 40324 > (502) 867-7625 > > --------------------------------- > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:06 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Rudder cable routing From: grroberts3@juno.com --> Europa-List message posted by: grroberts3@juno.com I'm laying in the rudder cables on an XS with a Singleton tail wheel mod. The fuel lines are rigid aluminum and are already installed. The manual instructions for Tufnol cable guides bolted to the thigh supports has me stumped. I've modified the forward rubbing blocks by reducing the thickness (about 1/4 inch) and have plenty of clearance from the framework. The cables just clear the wheel well side all the way back to the removable bulkhead and beyond to the pulleys. My thigh supports are recessed well beyond the 30mm dimensions given for fabrication the Tufnol cable guides. Additionally, any further deflection outboard at the thigh supports will bring the cables into contact with the wheel well walls. From the pulleys aft, the cables rise to the bellcrank and foul the fuel lines. There is room under the fuel lines if I hold the cables down and prevent them rising until aft of the cockpit module. I intend to put in turnbuckles aft of the cockpit module that should be accessible below the cargo shelf. I had intended to use Nylaflow tubing on the cabling and have even found the site gauge tubing (that I won't be using) to be perfect as an outer cover on the Nylaflow tubing allowing easy replacement of the Nylaflow in the future. Nylaflow sure seemed like a good idea when discussed on the list some time ago. I find that I am now in need of the details. 1. Are the cable guide as described in the manual really necessary if the cables are already fully outboard? 2. Is Nylaflow tube an appropriate substitute to secure the cable near the thigh supports? 3. Where, precisely, should the cables have Nylaflow? Can it be used to change cable direction, as in keeping the cable on the floor until aft of the fuel lines? 4. How is the Nylaflow secured? Simple glass tape layups at critical points? I would appreciate any suggestions and experiences. Thanks GRoberts A187 Tucson, AZ ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:32 PM PST US From: R Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax 912S power issue --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder Sven den Boer wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" > > > During take-off power no problems, at throtlinging back > 200-300 rpm at 700 feet, the engine starts to run rough > for 1-2 seconds, as if it's running on 3 cylinders, > thereafter no observations. Engine has been checked by > Rotax dealer on ignition and carb balancing, nothing > found. Any suggestions ? > This sounds like the problem I had which took me 9 months of fiddling to solve. The fuel pipe to a carb (port in my case) was too close to the exhaust manifold and the insulation around it melted, allowing exhaust heat onto the pipe, The stainless steel covering then conducted the heat up inside the insulation. Firstly change the direction of the banjos on the carb. Point them rearwards to keep the pipe away from the exhaust. If this makes a difference arrange to get some new unions made up (straight ones) so that the pipe can be re-routed over the top pf the carb rather than underneath ! This solved it for me. Rotax firmly refused to believe that this was the problem, but the fix solved it so I am content with my solution ! While at full power there is plenty of fuel flow in the pipe, the exhaust gets hot, but the flow is sufficient that the heat doesn't affect the fuel. When you ease off the fuel flow reduces butt the exhaust is (initially) still hot so the fuel vaporaised and you get a misfire until the exhaust cools, the fuel cools and then it is OK. 2 -3 seconds is about right ! Richard Holder who got really frsutrated with this, trying everything, but then had a lateral thought and found this problem. HTH ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 11:40:21 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Radio question --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Tom, Not so much a matter of defending Michael Coates as it is confirming there is always two sides to a story. I also have a certain amount of pride in the fact that something is actually being manufactured in this country and I wouldn't like to see this thwarted by one dissatisfied customer. Being interested in the XCOM 760 radio, when you wrote your original post I was quite concerned so I simply asked him for his comments and I also did some other homework trying to find out if anybody else has had similar problems. Fact is I have not yet heard of anybody else being dissatisfied and another chap whom I know well and have much respect for spoke highly of him. Anyway, with respect to the refund, this is a matter between both of you and the whole thing is also off topic for this list so I will say no more. Hope the matter can be resolved to your satisfaction. Regards Kingsley Do not archive All I can relate is what my experience was. Yes, he also told me that he refunded me the cost. However, it never was credited to me on my account...Why do you defend him so? "Why are you so keen to beat up XCOM all the time? You do it every chance you get." I think my last warning was the second that I have done. You also responded similarily to the first. Why? I have the paperwork showing that Michael has NEVER credited my account. I did try to correct the numerous errors in the harness that he sent. There were too many. Tom