---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/07/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:52 AM - RE : RE : WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 (mau11) 2. 03:50 AM - Re: Did you lock the door today ? (Kingsley Hurst) 3. 12:23 PM - Europa Club newsletter & subscriptions (Rowland Carson) 4. 03:05 PM - Re: Did you lock the door today ? (Garry) 5. 03:44 PM - Re: Did you lock the door today ? (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:51 AM PST US From: "mau11" Subject: RE : RE : Europa-List: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" Peux-tu me passer le document RP-42-50 en question, je ne l'ai pas. Merci. --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de NEEL Jean Philippe Envoy : mercredi 6 avril 2005 21:21 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: RE : Europa-List: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 --> Europa-List message posted by: NEEL Jean Philippe --> salut Michel Je pense que tu as seulement deux choses faire pour faire voler ta Woodcomp Obenir d'Europa un papier reconnaissant cette helice comme une option montable sur l'europa. C'est une piece comme une autre! Avertir ton controleur avec copie du document precedent Il ne faut surtout pas leur demander le droit de monter cette helice car dans ce cas, ne la connaissant pas il vont ouvrir le parapluie et tout sera bloqu.Par ailleurs cette modification est de la responsabilit du constructeur comme dit dans le nouveau document DGAC/GSAC qui traite des CNRA CNSK. . Ref RP-42-50 . Va voir le 6.1. Si tu n'as pas ce document je peux te le passer JP PS Le document du PFA peut sans doute aider mais ce serait mieux que le constructeur Europa s'engage mau11 wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" Hello Tim, Is it possible to send to me a PFA document concerning your propeller? I have some problems with French administration... Thanks --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Houlihan,Tim Envoy : mardi 29 mars 2005 23:34 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : RE: Europa-List: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Houlihan,Tim" --> I have recently taken delivery of an SR2000 prop for my Europa Classic, but no flight details yet. Woodcomp have developed a spinner to suit the Rotax powered classic aircraft and I must say it looks great. At least one other classic owner has ordered a Woodcomp so we can expect some news soon. regards Tim Houlihan No 10 G-BZTH -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of mau11 Subject: Europa-List: WOODCOMP Kremen Propeller SR2000 --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" I heard a Europa builders buy this propeller in UK. Do you have flight news? Do you have a PFA documents to install this propeller with a 912 engine on a Europa monowheel? Thank you --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY N=B0145 --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:40 AM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Did you lock the door today ? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Garry, As a point of interest, how are your gas struts attached ? As per the original Europa instructions or do you have the strut attached approx half way up the door ? Regards Kingsley in Oz > The hinges are so weak that you dare not even do an engine run-up > with the door open, or they will blow off their hinges. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:23:21 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club newsletter & subscriptions --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson Because I've had a few queries recently, just thought I'd better do a broadcast to clarify the situation and save having to write many individual replies. Newsletter: The March 2005 issue (#44) of The Europa Flyer is delayed in publication. Our worthy Editor also has a day job, which has recently taken him abroad and prevented him getting the newsletter put together to the usual schedule. We hope it will be ready in the next week or two, and I'm sure it will be worth waiting for. Subscriptions: Last month I e-mailed subscription reminders to a number of Europa Club members. I deliberately excluded those who are known to have set up a Standing Order. The aim was to make renewal quick & convenient for those (mostly overseas members) who pay by credit card. If you didn't get an e-mail reminder, don't panic! You (and everyone else) will get a paper form enclosed with EF44 showing the status of your membership and inviting you to renew your subscription if you haven't already done so. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:50 PM PST US From: "Garry" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Did you lock the door today ? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" Kingsley, My Europa was completed in 1999 and the struts are per the original instructions............mounted in the upper aft corner of the door. The constant pressure of the strut when the door is closed causes a slow deformation of the door such that the corners stand proud of the fuselage. I've thought about changing to the "new" configuration for the struts, but simply have been too lazy to get around to it. Garry Stout ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Did you lock the door today ? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" > > > Garry, > > As a point of interest, how are your gas struts attached ? As per the > original Europa instructions or do you have the strut attached approx half > way up the door ? > > Regards > Kingsley in Oz > >> The hinges are so weak that you dare not even do an engine run-up >> with the door open, or they will blow off their hinges. > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:44:18 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Did you lock the door today ? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Garry, You said: > My Europa was completed in 1999 and the struts are per the original instructions............mounted in the upper aft corner of the door. Thank you for letting me know. My thoughts were that with the original attachment (as I understand yours is), there is considerable mechanical advantage around the gas strut attach point such that when the door is forced upwards when the strut is fully extended, the rear hinge is placed under a lot of load. With the higher position of the attach point as it is with the alternate positioning of the strut, the load on the rear hinge would be markedly reduced under the same conditions. In relation to your comment about the door buckling from the constant pressure of the strut, I elected to adopt Ted Gladstone's lever idea which completely eliminates all forces on the door when the door is closed. This mod however, is not the easiest thing to do but I'm very happy I did it. Just recently, a friend of mine who now has his Europa ready to fly, showed me a gas strut he bought locally over here which in its collapsed state is shorter than the Europa strut and is also longer in its extended state. This allows it to be fitted in the alternate position with its lower end further outboard effecting a better mechanical advantage when the door is open. I.e.. it holds the door open better. This may be an easy and economical way to overcome both your problems . . . . . I repeat - maybe ! If you are interested in this strut my friend found, let me know and I'll get the details for you. Regards Kingsley