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1. 01:10 AM - Re: Rudder Pedal Setup Reply. (Duncan McFadyean)
2. 01:14 AM - Re: Unnerving experience (Roland Robinson)
3. 01:23 AM - sat 23 april club trip (DaveBuzz@aol.com)
4. 01:39 AM - Re: Re: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did you lock the door today ?) (G-IANI)
5. 01:41 AM - Re: Re: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did you lock the door today ?) (G-IANI)
6. 03:25 AM - Re: Electric trim problems. (Jos Okhuijsen)
7. 09:14 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
8. 10:24 AM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
9. 01:56 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
10. 01:59 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
11. 02:47 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
12. 04:16 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
13. 04:16 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
14. 04:41 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
15. 04:52 PM - Tailwind-List: Wally's return (Walter Critchlow)
16. 05:31 PM - Wally Messages Stopped! (Matt Dralle)
17. 05:46 PM - Re: Electric trim problems. (Michael Grass)
18. 06:17 PM - Starter kick back.... (Paul McAllister)
19. 08:10 PM - Re: Starter kick back.... (Fergus Kyle)
20. 08:17 PM - Re: Electric trim problems. (Dale)
21. 11:31 PM - Monowheel Brake Pads. (MICHAEL PARKIN)
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Pedal Setup Reply. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
It helps here if floating anchor nut plates are used on the pedal floor.
This enables a degree or two of self-alighning ability.
Duncan Mcf.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Rudder Pedal Setup Reply.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> For the bench test, be sure that the pedals rotate smoothly throughout a
> normal range of movement on the same axis. Mine insitu bind a bit in the
> bushes because the combined pedals are not completely on the same axis
> throughout the combined length. On the bench you should be able to distort
> the "high point" down with even pressure to get a co-incident axis
throughout.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
> At 09:13 AM 4/9/2005, you wrote:
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
> >
> >There should only one horizontal plane. apart from your plane to be. So
> >yes, that makes two, if we forget about the vertical plane. But of course
> >you could make diagonal planes as much as you like. Back to these pedal
> >floors, it's virtually impossible to really find the same plane (1) in
the
> >plane (2) , so best to preassamble the whole lot on the bench, outside
the
> >plane (2), make sure the pedals move smoothly, and then transfer it into
> >the plane (2) Now carefully fix the floorboards in position, chack again
> >for smooth movement before fixing them for good in the same plane (1) to
> >your plane (2). Hope it helps,
> >
> >Jos Okhuijsen
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Unnerving experience |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roland Robinson" <roland.robinson@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi
I had a very similar experience following the annual on my Europa. On
investigation a short longitudinal split was found on the fuel pipe that
pushed onto the filter. (one of the poor quality cotton braided type)
Here are my thoughts on what had happened:
Like you I was doing circuits and it was several circuits in before the
problem occurred, so why did it start to happen?
I believe that air was being drawn in though the split. Before the "how
did air get in if fuel didn't leak out brigade start" this could happen
due to the nett positive suction head on the pump. Ie as fuel is used in
the tank the head available on the pump is going down as the fuel is
consumed. Therefore slightly more suction is required. At some point it
could become easier for air to be pulled through the leak than fuel from
the tank. This would give the effect that you describe.
This further fitted my event as, when I reduced power, the engine
running cleared up. So again as fuel demand was reduced, less suction
required, no air drawn.
I too thankfully made a successful landing on alternate runway. I cured
the leak and the problem did not recur in 150 hours subsequent flying.
In conclusion, I would advise that you check for any (slight) leaks on
the suction side of the pump.
Hope this helps.
Roly Robinson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Lawless
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Unnerving experience
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Hi
This sound not unusual for a new aeroplane we had a similar problem at
about 8 hours from new. I have also seen the same problem on another
Europa Classic just after initial permit issue. I have a Classic (109)
and had repeated problems with the filters in the first few hours. I
suspect the inlet pipe, which appears to exude brown goo for the first
few hours. Just keep checking and cleaning the filters on a regular
basis. My aeroplane has 130 hours on now and I still reckon to clean
the filter about every 10 hours.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Rees
Subject: Europa-List: Unnerving experience
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees"
--> <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
When a co-owner of G-MFHI was out with an instructor last weekend, on
climbout from a successful touch and go, the engine started 'surging' -
repeatedly running roughly then not. A maday call was made and a
successful
landing on an alternate runway was executed.
When the cowl was removed and a transparent piece of pipe put into the
fuel
line, approximately 30-50% gas could be seen - it could not be
determined if
this was air being drawn in or fuel vapour. When the reserve tank was
selected, the gas was seen to disappear and the fuel pump ran
considerably
easier.
My problem is that when I went to Rochester today, I couldn't repeat the
symptoms - the pump ran fine from both tanks with little if any bubbles.
The
flow rate from the main tank was considerably less (approx 40l/hr as
opposed
to 60l/hr from the reserve) - replacing the element in the main tank
filter
eliminated the difference.
The aircraft was operating on Mogas, the filter units are the glass type
with metal end caps with a plastic element. The filter element looks to
have
quite a lot of fibrous strands in.
My questions are:
1) Has anyone experienced anything like this in the past - if so,
did
you get to the root of the problem?
2) There seems to be a thin layer of brown 'stuff' on the wall of
the
fuel tank - any idea what this could be?
3) Are these the best filter elements to use - there seem to be
more
routes for air to get in that a sealed unit.
Sorry for such a long message but as you can understand, following the
accident at Kemble, it was something of an unnerving experience for the
pilot (and instructor) involved and we really want to find the cause,
not
just a case of we think we've found it.
Peter
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| Subject: | sat 23 april club trip |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com
Club day-trip to Le Touquet on saturday 23 april - This is generally a social
get-together and refresher on flight planning and map reading (or gps-entering!)
skills...
It would be great if some more French pilots can make it again, unfortunately
Jean-martin is on holiday that weekend. However, if some of you Dutch, German
or other continental Europans are interested then please let me know.
Anyone interested please email me off-list at:
davebuzz@aol.com
with plane type (doesn't have to be a Europa, you builders!) and registration,
as we may be able to get a reduction on landing fees once again if we notify
LeT in advance.
All the best,
dave
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| Subject: | RE: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did you lock |
the door today ?)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Gee thanks for that.
If Trev wants the stripes then they are on a CAD file (full scale). If he
wants the name of the company who made them (and have the shape on CAD
already) I will supply it. They are in Northern Ireland, I know the owner
who lives just down the road from my Sister in law. There price is much
lower than UK quotes I got. He will do them by post for you to fit.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Craig
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did
you lock the door today ?)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig" <wrightcrw@aol.com>
Ian
Trev and I were at fly today and you will be pleased to here g-iani was
generating some interest. It was shining nicely and everything was still on
it until trev took a liking to your stripes!
He promises to give you them back once he has used them as a template for
his own.
Regards
Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
To:<europa-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did you lock
the door today ?)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
For anyone interested in the door strut mod it is Factory Mod Number 66.
You will find it on www.europa-aircraft.co.uk under "technical" then Mod 66.
Double click and you will get a PDF of the fitting instructions.
You can buy the factory kit of part but the disadvantage of then is that the
new pivot is on a moulding which you 420 onto the door. This makes the
frame thicker (which has the advantage of stiffening it) but gives problems
with the door seals.
The other option is to make your own brackets, set then into the existing
door structure and the glass over the frame to reinforce it. You need to be
precise in the positioning of the bracket.
Having done it both ways now (G-IANI factory kit) and (G-IRON DIY version) I
like the DIY version best. It is not a job for you unless you are confident
about your accuracy and the quality of your glass work.
If anyone is interested in the DIY version I can make some photos available.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
Let your email find you with BlackBerry from Vodafone
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| Subject: | RE: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did you lock |
the door today ?)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Thanks for the update. Its nice to know you have a spare fuse, which
obviously you wont need for many years yet, which I can borrow.
See you next week
Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey
Subject: RE: Europa-List: RE: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did
you lock the door today ?)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Don't panic, Ian - I made him take them off carefully. And I got him to
score around them first so you know where they go when you put them back on.
Craig was lucky - he nearly didn't manage to do the scoring, some trumped up
security guard tried to arrest him for walking round with that crowbar he
sharpened! A total Jobs Worth if you ask me!
But yes, G-IANI was generating a lot of interest, and there are a bunch of
folks out there who want to join our Europa community! :-)
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1350 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did you
lock the door today ?)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig" <wrightcrw@aol.com>
Ian
Trev and I were at fly today and you will be pleased to here g-iani was
generating some interest. It was shining nicely and everything was still on
it until trev took a liking to your stripes!
He promises to give you them back once he has used them as a template for
his own.
Regards
Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
To:<europa-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa List - Door Strut Mod (was:: Did you lock
the door today ?)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
For anyone interested in the door strut mod it is Factory Mod Number 66.
You will find it on www.europa-aircraft.co.uk under "technical" then Mod 66.
Double click and you will get a PDF of the fitting instructions.
You can buy the factory kit of part but the disadvantage of then is that the
new pivot is on a moulding which you 420 onto the door. This makes the
frame thicker (which has the advantage of stiffening it) but gives problems
with the door seals.
The other option is to make your own brackets, set then into the existing
door structure and the glass over the frame to reinforce it. You need to be
precise in the positioning of the bracket.
Having done it both ways now (G-IANI factory kit) and (G-IRON DIY version) I
like the DIY version best. It is not a job for you unless you are confident
about your accuracy and the quality of your glass work.
If anyone is interested in the DIY version I can make some photos available.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
Let your email find you with BlackBerry from Vodafone
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| Subject: | Re: Electric trim problems. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Paul,
There was a similar thread, which started about the flap motor here some
time ago.
Somebody advised to hang a lamp over the servo motor, to isolate switches,
wiring and relays. I would go for that. I've decided to add bright leds,
one for up, one for down with their diode function, to the panel, above
and below the indicator. This because it will help the diagnostics and
hopefully prevent accidental actuation of the trim buttons on the stick.
I've heard about an accident, where one of the factors was inadvertely
trim up during takeoff. Other then that, i know that intermittend faults
are really difficult to solve. The only way to do it is by try and error,
first starting with the replacement of most suspect parts. First problem
here is that nobody seems to have an idea what part to suspect first, and
second is, that the problem part of the equasion might happen at a time
where you can't afford it.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Tailwind-List: Wally's return |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Walter Critchlow" <wjc1@sprint.ca>
Interested parties .. I'm back.
The south will never be the same
W.C.
C/FRDF
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| Subject: | Wally Messages Stopped! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
My sincere apologies! At about 4:30am this morning there was an odd system
problem on the Matornics email server, causing many mail files to become
marked as "read-only". This wedged many of the List filters causing all
sorts of weird behavior. Perhaps the oddest was that an innocent message
from Walter Critchlow, kept getting posted instead of the actual incoming
List message.
If you receive this message, and sent a list message to any of the lists
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| Subject: | Re: Electric trim problems. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
Hi Paul,
I think your last question is still open. My kit came with the Ray Allen
Servo T3-12A.
Michael Grass
A266 Trigear Detroit
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Electric trim problems.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Hi! Paul
> I can confirm that I have a similar problem (or I'm hoping I HAD!)
> For some time I have had an intermittent similar problem. The trim will
> always go nose up no problem but should I go a LED bar too far it won't
> reverse until I take it full nose up (huge control stick forces) then it
> usually but sometimes only after about a minute will return. I suspected
> the servo motor which since my Kit No. is 337 I guess will be the old
> one. I had lots of written exchanges with the Ray Allen Co. resulting in
> my sending it back for check over since they had concluded that an "end
> or limiter switch wasn't allowing the reversing of the motor. I
> returned it to them unfortunately they had a bad day when they received
> it and didn't link my motor with my communications but checked it out
> and found no fault.
> I refitted it and when plugging my connectors at the panel back together
> I discovered an internally broken or badly crimped wire.
> I remade the wire connection and "hey presto". After two years it seemed
> sorted!
> However since then the problem has again returned and I have not been
> able to get it to repeat on demand. The last time I flew I did my
> pre-flight checks and I trimmed up a couple of LED bars and it wouldn't
> return, pulled off the ramp and sat operating both the control on the
> stick and the one on the panel. After about 10 minutes of multiple
> switching it came back to life. I flew my mission ensuring not to trim
> too far nose up, and on the return leg repeatedly trimmed nose up then
> nose down without problem.
> I have again checked all my connectors and stood for an hour trying to
> reproduce the problem to no avail. I'm wondering if it is the relay
> deck?
> If you manage to isolate your problem would you be good enough to let me
> know?
> Best regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
>
> Robt.C.Harrison
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I posted a similar message on the Aeroelectric board. I am having
> intermittent problems with my electric trim. Sometimes when I need to
> slow and trim the aircraft for landing the trim motor won't actuate. I
> initially suspected the down trim button, but once I had it not wanting
> to respond to an "UP" button press as well.
>
> I have wriggled wires, plugs and un plugged terminations and driven the
> servo to the end stops but I haven't been able to duplicate the problem
> on the ground. I am starting to suspect the servo and I am thinking it
> might be having trouble reversing direction with air loads.
>
> I'd be interested in anyone's ideas for trouble shooting. I have a 4 way
> trim switch with a Ray Allen relay deck driving an older MAC servo unit.
>
> One last question, can any one tell me the new part number for the servo
> unit.
>
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
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| Subject: | Starter kick back.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I have just got my Europa out of its winter hibernation and it has a new trick,
it kicks back when trying to start it cold, it never used to before. When I say
cold I am talking about an OAT of around 50 degrees. If I don't use any choke
is will crank and crank but refuse to start. If I add some choke it kicks
back violently. It is a 914 and up until now I had not seen this problem.
Before I go and modify my starting system to allow me to crank without the mags
turned on I'd appreciate some ideas on what might be causing this.
Thanks, Paul
175 hours and still grinning :o)
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| Subject: | Re: Starter kick back.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Paul,
There is a history of this - am sure it's in the archives.
Suggest you look there - darned if I can remember why, but it's
solvable...........
Ferg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Starter kick back....
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
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| Hi all,
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| I have just got my Europa out of its winter hibernation and it has a new
trick, it kicks back when trying to start it cold, it never used to before.
When I say cold I am talking about an OAT of around 50 degrees. If I don't
use any choke is will crank and crank but refuse to start. If I add some
choke it kicks back violently. It is a 914 and up until now I had not seen
this problem.
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| Before I go and modify my starting system to allow me to crank without the
mags turned on I'd appreciate some ideas on what might be causing this.
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| Thanks, Paul
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| 175 hours and still grinning :o)
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| Subject: | Re: Electric trim problems. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dale" <gdh@isp.com>
Paul,
I had a servo fail (drove the drive pin up through the housing) the MAC
folks replaced it no charge and suggested that I might want to replace the
switch as well. I did and no more problems.
Dale
A-140 Tri-gear
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Electric trim problems.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I posted a similar message on the Aeroelectric board. I am having
> intermittent problems with my electric trim. Sometimes when I need to
> slow and trim the aircraft for landing the trim motor won't actuate. I
> initially suspected the down trim button, but once I had it not wanting to
> respond to an "UP" button press as well.
>
> I have wriggled wires, plugs and un plugged terminations and driven the
> servo to the end stops but I haven't been able to duplicate the problem
> on the ground. I am starting to suspect the servo and I am thinking it
> might be having trouble reversing direction with air loads.
>
> I'd be interested in anyone's ideas for trouble shooting. I have a 4 way
> trim switch with a Ray Allen relay deck driving an older MAC servo unit.
>
> One last question, can any one tell me the new part number for the servo
> unit.
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>
> Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | Monowheel Brake Pads. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
A question for anyone who has relined the monowheel brakes. Can you confirm that
the correct pads for the Monowheel brake are the (Cleveland) 66-106.
And do you know what the part number for the required rivets.
regards,
Mike G-JULZ (Does exactly what it says on the tin.)
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