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1. 01:51 AM - Unnerving experience (Graham Singleton)
2. 06:35 AM - Sun N Fun (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Electric trim problems. (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
4. 07:30 AM - Sun N Fun (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
5. 10:21 AM - [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle))
6. 10:39 AM - Re: Electric trim problems. (Simon Smith)
7. 12:13 PM - Sun N Fun (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
8. 01:00 PM - Sun-n-Fun (Vaughn Teegarden)
9. 01:03 PM - Re: Electric trim problems. (Paul Stewart)
10. 03:21 PM - Re: Electric trim problems. (R.C.Harrison)
11. 03:40 PM - Spark plug change intervals (Paul McAllister)
12. 03:54 PM - Re: Starter kick back.... (SPurpura@aol.com)
13. 05:10 PM - Re: Starter kick back.... (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Unnerving experience |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 10/04/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roland Robinson"
><roland.robinson@tiscali.co.uk>
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>Hi
>
>I had a very similar experience following the annual on my Europa. On
>investigation a short longitudinal split was found on the fuel pipe that
>pushed onto the filter. (one of the poor quality cotton braided type)
Roland
you are probably right. This will cause rough running at full throttle. The
leak may be extremely small but still allow air to be pulled in but not
allow fuel to leak out. The air will expand and reduce the fuel flow very
significantly because the rate of pumping is limited.
The rough running will tend to start as fuel level in the tank reduces
Graham
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--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Hello Group
My son Brennan and I will be at Sun N. Fun on Friday or Saturday this week.
There was a previous thread on perhaps a Europa meeting sometime during the
Fly in.
Was a definite time made?
Thanks!
Brian Skelly
Texas
Europa # A276 TriGear
See My build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | Re: Electric trim problems. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
In a message dated 4/9/2005 7:58:59 PM Central Standard Time,
paul.mcallister@qia.net writes:
One last question, can any one tell me the new part number for the servo unit.
Thanks, Paul
Hi Paul;
I'm just not sure if I have a new unit or not. It was delivered with my kit
on November 2004 # A276.
The servo is manufactured by Ray Allen. The number on the servo is T3-12A.
It came in a kit part number T3-12A-TS
This thread has just persuaded me to go back and install those blind nuts to
the back of the bulkhead. <I had though about it before but never got around
to it.>
I would hate to have to replace this unit with the regular lock nut and
washer arrangement specified in the manual.
Hope those part numbers help.
Brian Skelly
Texas
Europa # A276 TriGear
See My build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Hello Group
My son Brennan and I will be at Sun N. Fun on Friday or Saturday this week.
There was a previous thread on perhaps a Europa meeting sometime during the
Fly in.
Was a definite time made?
Brian Skelly
Texas
Europa # A276 TriGear
See My build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
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I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup
because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of
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| Subject: | Electric trim problems. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Something similar that might be relevant - When the Embraer 145 was
introduced in the UK there were a number of incidents of loss of trim as the
aircraft accelerated and climbed. It turned out that the pilots were
holding in the necessary forward stick until the pressure built up and then
trimming (or trying to) and the pressure was too much for the motor to cope
with. The solution was to trim more often at lower pressures. A search on
the AAIB website will turn up the necessary.
Simon
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jos Okhuijsen
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Electric trim problems.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Paul,
There was a similar thread, which started about the flap motor here some
time ago.
Somebody advised to hang a lamp over the servo motor, to isolate switches,
wiring and relays. I would go for that. I've decided to add bright leds,
one for up, one for down with their diode function, to the panel, above
and below the indicator. This because it will help the diagnostics and
hopefully prevent accidental actuation of the trim buttons on the stick.
I've heard about an accident, where one of the factors was inadvertely
trim up during takeoff. Other then that, i know that intermittend faults
are really difficult to solve. The only way to do it is by try and error,
first starting with the replacement of most suspect parts. First problem
here is that nobody seems to have an idea what part to suspect first, and
second is, that the problem part of the equasion might happen at a time
where you can't afford it.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Hello Group
My son Brennan and I will be at Sun N. Fun on Friday or Saturday this week.
There was a previous thread on perhaps a Europa meeting sometime during the
Fly in.
Was a definite time made?
Brian Skelly
Texas
Europa # A276 TriGear
See My build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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clamav-milter version 0.80j
on cassiopeia
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
Name's Vaughn and I'm working on my kit. I will be at Sun-n-Fun on the 13th & 14th.
I've read the thread concerning meeting, and recall the possibility of meeting
at either the Europa booth (S-24) or at Flight Crafters who will be working
on a Zenair (this didn't seem for certain). I will check in at the Europa
booth. My guess is that they will be receptive to leaving word with other Europa
Builders/Flyers.
Vaughn Teegarden
N914VA
Some wiring to do, then close it all up
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| Subject: | Re: Electric trim problems. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Simon
I'll ask my wife about it when she returns from France - she was the
safety officer and an FO on the 145 fleet when this occurred.
Rgards
Paul
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| Subject: | Electric trim problems. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Simon.
I appreciate your input but my problem happened last time during my
pre-flight checks so loading was minimal other than needing to overcome
the friction damper.
Regards
Bob Harrison.G-PTAG
Robt.C.Harrison
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Electric trim problems.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Something similar that might be relevant - When the Embraer 145 was
introduced in the UK there were a number of incidents of loss of trim as
the
aircraft accelerated and climbed. It turned out that the pilots were
holding in the necessary forward stick until the pressure built up and
then
trimming (or trying to) and the pressure was too much for the motor to
cope
with. The solution was to trim more often at lower pressures. A search
on
the AAIB website will turn up the necessary.
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jos
Okhuijsen
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Electric trim problems.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Paul,
There was a similar thread, which started about the flap motor here some
time ago.
Somebody advised to hang a lamp over the servo motor, to isolate
switches,
wiring and relays. I would go for that. I've decided to add bright leds,
one for up, one for down with their diode function, to the panel, above
and below the indicator. This because it will help the diagnostics and
hopefully prevent accidental actuation of the trim buttons on the stick.
I've heard about an accident, where one of the factors was inadvertely
trim up during takeoff. Other then that, i know that intermittend faults
are really difficult to solve. The only way to do it is by try and
error,
first starting with the replacement of most suspect parts. First problem
here is that nobody seems to have an idea what part to suspect first,
and
second is, that the problem part of the equasion might happen at a time
where you can't afford it.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | Spark plug change intervals |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi All,
I have a Rotax 914T. I was wondering how long people typically keep there spark
plugs before replacing them.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Starter kick back.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
SOUNDS LIKE LOW VOLTAGE AT THE STARTER AFTER A FEW CRANKS.
SAM N77EU
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| Subject: | Re: Starter kick back.... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Sam
Thanks, I am guessing that too. The battery is 2 years old and it was
quite inexpensive at the time. I have ordered an Odyssey 680 replacement
and I will see how that goes.
Paul
do not archive
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From: <SPurpura@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Starter kick back....
> --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
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> SOUNDS LIKE LOW VOLTAGE AT THE STARTER AFTER A FEW CRANKS.
> SAM N77EU
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