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1. 06:03 AM - Re: Re: Rear door bolt sensors (Fergus Kyle)
2. 06:08 AM - Sun N Fun Report (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
3. 07:43 AM - zolatone (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk)
4. 08:03 AM - Re: zolatone (DvdPar@aol.com)
5. 08:31 AM - Transponder antenna (M@nsfield)
6. 09:42 AM - Transponder Antenna (Colin John Howard Richardson)
7. 09:59 AM - Rudder cable tension springs (M@nsfield)
8. 10:19 AM - Re: Transponder antenna (Gilles Thesee)
9. 11:16 AM - Re: Transponder antenna (Terry Seaver (terrys))
10. 12:46 PM - Re: Transponder Antenna (MICHAEL PARKIN)
11. 12:56 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Carl Pattinson)
12. 01:17 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com)
13. 01:21 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Duncan McFadyean)
14. 01:47 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Duncan McFadyean)
15. 02:40 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Carl Pattinson)
16. 05:32 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Fred Fillinger)
17. 05:57 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Fred Fillinger)
18. 07:21 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (Jacques Point)
19. 07:46 PM - Re: Re: Transponder antenna ()
20. 08:07 PM - MAP guages (N55XS)
21. 08:24 PM - Re: Re: Transponder antenna (Fred Fillinger)
22. 10:26 PM - Re: MAP guages (Cliff Shaw)
23. 10:28 PM - Re: Rudder cable tension springs (Cliff Shaw)
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Subject: | Re: RE: Rear door bolt sensors |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Forgot that, Jos! Thanks.
Ferg
----- Original Message -----
From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Rear door bolt sensors
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>|
| Ferg, all the messages are available at http://www.europaowners.org and in
the archives and will stay there for a very long time.
| Hope it helps,|
| Jos Okhuijsen from Sun ' Fun enjoying himself like a pig in shit
WERE YOU IN THE CANADIAN AIR FORCE, JOS?
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Subject: | Sun N Fun Report |
04/18/2005 09:04:08 AM,
Serialize complete at 04/18/2005 09:04:08 AM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Greetings All,
Just returned from Sun N Fun.
Flew 224xs NYC - LAL - NYC almost all IFR (actually under the hood mostly,
but some IMC)
Funny thing about the wind, it was always on the nose. All told about 18
hr of flying
The show was very nice indeed. About 8 Europaphiles converged at the
local Hooters for a round of
drinks and good cheer. The Armstrongs also had their Europa on the
Flightline.
Andy manned the company booth and showed the flag and there seemed to be
good foot traffic.
I had the pleasure of having Andy fly with me and after some fits and
starts on the ground
including overheated brakes and runway closed by an AT-6 with collapsed
gear. Andy pronounced
that 4XS flies like a Europa (but perhaps a bit faster ;-) ). On landing,
we had a hold at Lake
Parker followed by a go around command at 100 feet. I had had a rudder
trim issue at high
cruise (140 145 kts) which he fixed for me as well.
The only problem of my trip occurred at Chesapeake Regional on the return
leg. The wind was 40kts +
and when I opened my door at the fuel depot, the wind took it out of my
hand and snapped it against its
tang stops. The strut was torn cleanly off, the hinges bent and the tangs
delaminated. We continued
the flight home as the FBO was closed, the wind was horrible and freezing
cold.
Anyone else have this happen? What type of repair was needed?
Cheers,
Ira N224XS
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
Hi All,
Does any one know of a supplier of zolatone in the uk. I would
order it from Spruce, but being "hazardous" it would probably cost an
arm and a leg :-(
Cheers Danny
G-c.e.r.i
tri gear 50% complete 95% to go :-)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
I have a full tin of zolatone unused, make me an offer!
regards DAve PArk Bld, 371 Manchester
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From: | "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net> |
Subject: | Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
Planning what transponder antenna to fit and where... I want to avoid putting
it exposed under the belly.
My likely choice is a Microair T2000 and I would like not to have to spring
for a Bob Archer ($$$), but am told that the stub antenna must (should?)
be mounted externally.
I've read everything I can in the archives, and asked the UK supplier of
the Microair, and still get several different answers.
Jim Nelson wrote on 20 Jan 2004 "I mounted mine in the back on the pilots
side. I mounted it vertical on three wooden rods which were reduxed to the
fuselage. Ran the coax up the pilots side just under the door jamb and on
to the transponder. Seems to work fine. No interferance or noised noted."
This seems the logical answer, is this the stub (2.5"?) antenna & can you
elaborate on the 3 wooden rod mount, please Jim?
Anybody know why I shouldn't mount the stub antenna internally (glass is
transparent, isn't it?) behind the baggage bay, without being too far from
the xpdr unit and without degrading the signal significantly?
Any other helpful, cheap, suggestions, please?
Paul M
Mono XS 383
CM etc in, top on next
Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
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Subject: | Transponder Antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson" <cjh.richardson@virgin.net>
The original position of my antenna on a mono wheel was mounted on the back of
the baggage bay with the lower end of the antenna about 3inches (75 cms) above
the lower fuselage .
I had serious problems with the polar diagram (ie poor operation) from 45 deg left
of centre, through the nose to 30 deg right of centre. Caused almost certainly
by the landing gear and engine shielding the antenna.
Would suggest the best place would be on the lower surface of fuselage so that
the antenna can "see" 360 deg around and downwards.
My transponder was the Terra unit feeding a Terra antenna.
Hope this helps.
John
Monowheel now a tri-gear.
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From: | "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net> |
Subject: | Rudder cable tension springs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
Almost academic question re the rudder cable tension springs.
The manual p.22-6 says to hook one end of the spring to an FL10 spacer bolted
through the firewall at the front, but the other end to an OR9 spacer bolted
to the CS21 (attached to the rudder pedals).
The FL9 is a smaller spacer than the FL10 and the spring is kinda tight in
the smaller gap; a good fit in the FL10 though.
I asked Andy and he couldn't actually remember why different spacers were
specified at the time the manual was written - maybe tight fit with the engine
mount, but he couldn't be sure... we agreed it was best to just "build it
as written & not worry" ... but I do!! (only intellectually...)
Any clever ideas why the difference, please?
Paul M
Mono XS 383
CM etc in, top on next
Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
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Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
M@nsfield a crit :
>Anybody know why I shouldn't mount the stub antenna internally (glass is
>transparent, isn't it?) behind the baggage bay, without being too far from
>the xpdr unit and without degrading the signal significantly?
>
>
Paul,
We hid a TED stub antenna, $ 20 in the lower rear fairing (MCR 4S).
RG 400 coax. Works wonderfully.
See http://gilles.thesee.free.fr/Ant_XPDR.htm
You can hide your COM/NAV/XPDR antennas provided the skin is not conductive.
The antenna is available at
See http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ted_transponder.php
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
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Subject: | Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com>
The glass is transparent, but the engine, firewall, instrument panel,
etc. aren't. If you assume the radar is dead ahead of you, mounting the
xponder antenna directly behind all that may hide it from the intended
audience. We mounted ours under the belly, just behind the wheel, with
the assumption that it would be visible to the destination airport's
radar.
Regards,
Terry Seaver
A135 / N135TD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gilles
Thesee
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee
--> <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
M@nsfield a crit :
>Anybody know why I shouldn't mount the stub antenna internally (glass
>is transparent, isn't it?) behind the baggage bay, without being too
>far from the xpdr unit and without degrading the signal significantly?
>
>
Paul,
We hid a TED stub antenna, $ 20 in the lower rear fairing (MCR 4S).
RG 400 coax. Works wonderfully.
See http://gilles.thesee.free.fr/Ant_XPDR.htm
You can hide your COM/NAV/XPDR antennas provided the skin is not
conductive.
The antenna is available at
See http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ted_transponder.php
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
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Subject: | Re: Transponder Antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "MICHAEL PARKIN" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Perhaps your problems were not down to the antenna position. I have a
simple 'lollipop style' antenna built into a fibre glass moulding, with
ground plane. It sits on the left side of the fuselage floor, just aft of
the baggage bay. The transponder is a UPs/Apollo SL 70 and it has worked
well right from the start without any apparent blanking problems at all.
regards,
MP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin John Howard Richardson" <cjh.richardson@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Transponder Antenna
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Colin John Howard Richardson"
> <cjh.richardson@virgin.net>
>
> The original position of my antenna on a mono wheel was mounted on the
> back of the baggage bay with the lower end of the antenna about 3inches
> (75 cms) above the lower fuselage .
>
> I had serious problems with the polar diagram (ie poor operation) from 45
> deg left of centre, through the nose to 30 deg right of centre. Caused
> almost certainly by the landing gear and engine shielding the antenna.
>
> Would suggest the best place would be on the lower surface of fuselage so
> that the antenna can "see" 360 deg around and downwards.
>
> My transponder was the Terra unit feeding a Terra antenna.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> John
>
> Monowheel now a tri-gear.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Just remember the antenna should have a ground plane (not sure of the exact
dimensions) but ours is about 12"" diameter, kitchen foil spray adhesived to
the fuaelage belly (near the tail end). Aerial was a sharksfin shape from
Aircraft Spruce.
Additionally, if you mount the aerial near the occupants you will be
subjecting yourself to continuous radiation (unlike the comms radio which
only transmits intermittently, the transponder transmits every second and at
a higher output wattage). If you are planning on fathering any children this
is something you should consider (on a metal A/C this dosent matter because
you are shielded but in a plastic A/C there is no shielding). In other words
it would be better to mount the aerial near the back end of the A/C. If you
do this however you will need to use lower loss (ie: larger diameter)
coaxial cable).
----- Original Message -----
From: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
>
> Planning what transponder antenna to fit and where... I want to avoid
> putting
> it exposed under the belly.
>
> My likely choice is a Microair T2000 and I would like not to have to
> spring
> for a Bob Archer ($$$), but am told that the stub antenna must (should?)
> be mounted externally.
>
> I've read everything I can in the archives, and asked the UK supplier of
> the Microair, and still get several different answers.
>
> Jim Nelson wrote on 20 Jan 2004 "I mounted mine in the back on the pilots
> side. I mounted it vertical on three wooden rods which were reduxed to
> the
> fuselage. Ran the coax up the pilots side just under the door jamb and on
> to the transponder. Seems to work fine. No interferance or noised
> noted."
>
> This seems the logical answer, is this the stub (2.5"?) antenna & can you
> elaborate on the 3 wooden rod mount, please Jim?
>
> Anybody know why I shouldn't mount the stub antenna internally (glass is
> transparent, isn't it?) behind the baggage bay, without being too far from
> the xpdr unit and without degrading the signal significantly?
>
> Any other helpful, cheap, suggestions, please?
>
> Paul M
> Mono XS 383
> CM etc in, top on next
>
>
> Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
> Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
> Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
04/18/2005 04:13:57 PM,
Serialize complete at 04/18/2005 04:13:57 PM
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com
I think it is the ELT that needs the ground plane.
I noticed on the transponder antenna installation instructions the cryptic
warning " do not mount within 5' of occupants', but in the interests of a
short cable run, mounted mine in the tunnel near the seat.
There was a previous thread on this, but I can't recall the overall
consensus.
Dave A061 - almost ready to start irradiating myself
do not archive
"Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
04/18/2005 03:53 PM
Please respond to europa-list
To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
cc:
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson"
<carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Just remember the antenna should have a ground plane (not sure of the
exact
dimensions) but ours is about 12"" diameter, kitchen foil spray adhesived
to
the fuaelage belly (near the tail end). Aerial was a sharksfin shape from
Aircraft Spruce.
Additionally, if you mount the aerial near the occupants you will be
subjecting yourself to continuous radiation (unlike the comms radio which
only transmits intermittently, the transponder transmits every second and
at
a higher output wattage). If you are planning on fathering any children
this
is something you should consider (on a metal A/C this dosent matter
because
you are shielded but in a plastic A/C there is no shielding). In other
words
it would be better to mount the aerial near the back end of the A/C. If
you
do this however you will need to use lower loss (ie: larger diameter)
coaxial cable).
----- Original Message -----
From: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
>
> Planning what transponder antenna to fit and where... I want to avoid
> putting
> it exposed under the belly.
>
> My likely choice is a Microair T2000 and I would like not to have to
> spring
> for a Bob Archer ($$$), but am told that the stub antenna must (should?)
> be mounted externally.
>
> I've read everything I can in the archives, and asked the UK supplier of
> the Microair, and still get several different answers.
>
> Jim Nelson wrote on 20 Jan 2004 "I mounted mine in the back on the
pilots
> side. I mounted it vertical on three wooden rods which were reduxed to
> the
> fuselage. Ran the coax up the pilots side just under the door jamb and
on
> to the transponder. Seems to work fine. No interferance or noised
> noted."
>
> This seems the logical answer, is this the stub (2.5"?) antenna & can
you
> elaborate on the 3 wooden rod mount, please Jim?
>
> Anybody know why I shouldn't mount the stub antenna internally (glass is
> transparent, isn't it?) behind the baggage bay, without being too far
from
> the xpdr unit and without degrading the signal significantly?
>
> Any other helpful, cheap, suggestions, please?
>
> Paul M
> Mono XS 383
> CM etc in, top on next
>
>
> Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
> Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
> Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
That's pretty-much where I put my Tx aerial too (i.e. mounted externally on
the belly). Although one could argue that the water radiator blocks its
forward "vision", this doesn't seem to be a problem.
However, on one occasion the received signal was "dropping out" in a
direction at right angles to the a/c longitudinal axis. This might have been
due to the presence of the CF legs of the fixed TD undercarriage. This would
be comparable to the tri gear steel legs. So, the aerial location may not be
fool-proof for this type of undercarriage.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Terry Seaver (terrys)"
<terrys@cisco.com>
>
> The glass is transparent, but the engine, firewall, instrument panel,
> etc. aren't. If you assume the radar is dead ahead of you, mounting the
> xponder antenna directly behind all that may hide it from the intended
> audience. We mounted ours under the belly, just behind the wheel, with
> the assumption that it would be visible to the destination airport's
> radar.
>
> Regards,
> Terry Seaver
> A135 / N135TD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gilles
> Thesee
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee
> --> <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
>
> M@nsfield a crit :
>
> >Anybody know why I shouldn't mount the stub antenna internally (glass
> >is transparent, isn't it?) behind the baggage bay, without being too
> >far from the xpdr unit and without degrading the signal significantly?
> >
> >
> Paul,
>
> We hid a TED stub antenna, $ 20 in the lower rear fairing (MCR 4S).
> RG 400 coax. Works wonderfully.
> See http://gilles.thesee.free.fr/Ant_XPDR.htm
> You can hide your COM/NAV/XPDR antennas provided the skin is not
> conductive.
>
> The antenna is available at
> See http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ted_transponder.php
>
> Hope this helps,
> Regards,
>
> Gilles Thesee
> Grenoble, France
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
<<....if you mount the aerial near the occupants you will be
> subjecting yourself to continuous radiation .>>
<<>..If you are planning on fathering any children >>
I did and it doesn't!
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson"
<carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Just remember the antenna should have a ground plane (not sure of the
exact
> dimensions) but ours is about 12"" diameter, kitchen foil spray adhesived
to
> the fuaelage belly (near the tail end). Aerial was a sharksfin shape from
> Aircraft Spruce.
>
> Additionally, if you mount the aerial near the occupants you will be
> subjecting yourself to continuous radiation (unlike the comms radio which
> only transmits intermittently, the transponder transmits every second and
at
> a higher output wattage). If you are planning on fathering any children
this
> is something you should consider (on a metal A/C this dosent matter
because
> you are shielded but in a plastic A/C there is no shielding). In other
words
> it would be better to mount the aerial near the back end of the A/C. If
you
> do this however you will need to use lower loss (ie: larger diameter)
> coaxial cable).
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
> >
> > Planning what transponder antenna to fit and where... I want to avoid
> > putting
> > it exposed under the belly.
> >
> > My likely choice is a Microair T2000 and I would like not to have to
> > spring
> > for a Bob Archer ($$$), but am told that the stub antenna must (should?)
> > be mounted externally.
> >
> > I've read everything I can in the archives, and asked the UK supplier of
> > the Microair, and still get several different answers.
> >
> > Jim Nelson wrote on 20 Jan 2004 "I mounted mine in the back on the
pilots
> > side. I mounted it vertical on three wooden rods which were reduxed to
> > the
> > fuselage. Ran the coax up the pilots side just under the door jamb and
on
> > to the transponder. Seems to work fine. No interferance or noised
> > noted."
> >
> > This seems the logical answer, is this the stub (2.5"?) antenna & can
you
> > elaborate on the 3 wooden rod mount, please Jim?
> >
> > Anybody know why I shouldn't mount the stub antenna internally (glass is
> > transparent, isn't it?) behind the baggage bay, without being too far
from
> > the xpdr unit and without degrading the signal significantly?
> >
> > Any other helpful, cheap, suggestions, please?
> >
> > Paul M
> > Mono XS 383
> > CM etc in, top on next
> >
> >
> > Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
> > Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
> > Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Sorry Duncan but im baffled by your response.
Are you saying that there is no radiation or are you saying it dosent make
you sterile.
Not that its an issue in my case, just idle curiosity.
Im no expert, but radios radiate - thats what they do !
As to whether the radiation is a health and safety issue, thats a different
matter.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> <<....if you mount the aerial near the occupants you will be
>> subjecting yourself to continuous radiation .>>
> <<>..If you are planning on fathering any children >>
>
> I did and it doesn't!
>
> Duncan McF.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson"
<carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
> Additionally, if you mount the aerial near the occupants you will be
> subjecting yourself to continuous radiation (unlike the comms radio
which
> only transmits intermittently, the transponder transmits every
second and at
> a higher output wattage).
A transponder transmits for only 21.3 microseconds and only when
interrogated by ATC. Therefore, even though high wattage, there's no
harm even a foot away according to data published by our gov't. I
calculated it as less than a typical cell phone at one inch from our
cognitive matter.
Reg,
Fred F.
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Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com
> ...
> I noticed on the transponder antenna installation instructions the
cryptic
> warning " do not mount within 5' of occupants'...
I think the problem is the worst-case assumptions they need to make,
then in-house counsel add a foot ; then outside counsel doubles the
result!
In addition to making no assumption as to how much power loss in your
coax and your actual power output vs. the minimum specification, the
safe distance is very much a function of how often ATC (and lately
TCAS-equipped planes) are interrogating you. Then you need to assume
all data bits are being sent (rare), plus an ephemeral ident bit even.
The ARRL (ham radio types) has an online safety calculator, and
realistic assumptions do result in inches of safe distance at even 2
interrogations per second.
Reg,
Fred F.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jacques Point" <jacques.point@total.com>
Two questions in one:
1) Transponder antenna. I will follow the supplier recommendation, unless I find
a better answer here. The thing that I don't know is the size of the ground
plate ???? any idea around ?
2) On radio antenna, is the ferrite balloon around the cable mandatory ? if yes,
were to find it ?
Mono # 148 (I know, I am late!!) still paint and seats...
Thanks
Jacques
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
I don't remember the exact size of the ground plane but it is pretty small.
4 to 6 inch diam. If someone doesn't have the correct size, I can find it.
I someone needs the ferrite doughnuts, I can find those also and mail a few.
Tom Friedland
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jacques Point
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Transponder antenna
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jacques Point"
--> <jacques.point@total.com>
Two questions in one:
1) Transponder antenna. I will follow the supplier recommendation, unless I
find a better answer here. The thing that I don't know is the size of the
ground plate ???? any idea around ?
2) On radio antenna, is the ferrite balloon around the cable mandatory ? if
yes, were to find it ?
Mono # 148 (I know, I am late!!) still paint and seats... Thanks Jacques
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--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
Anyone with a 912S and Airmaster combination. What is your take on MAP
guages? Is 35 inches enough, or should I go with a 50 inch? Thanks in
advance...
--
Jeff - A055
FWF to go...
Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
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Subject: | Re: RE: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jacques Point"
<jacques.point@total.com>
> ...
> On radio antenna, is the ferrite balloon around the cable mandatory
? if yes, were to find it ?
>
For a 1/4-wave "whip" type transponder antenna, no. For a dipole type
you buy (Archer, for example), no either, unless mfr says to. For a
dipole you make, yes, but one is unlikely to make an xponder antenna
which works well, making the ferrite core moot.
Reg,
Fred F.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Unless the barometer is higher in your aria than it is here at my field, you
will be well served with 35 inches. I have a Rocky Mountain Micro engine
monitor. I has every thing all on one flat screen.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: "N55XS" <topglock@cox.net>
Subject: Europa-List: MAP guages
> --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
>
> Anyone with a 912S and Airmaster combination. What is your take on MAP
> guages? Is 35 inches enough, or should I go with a 50 inch? Thanks in
> advance...
>
> --
> Jeff - A055
> FWF to go...
> Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Rudder cable tension springs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Paul
The big thing I had problems with on the rudder springs was the retainers
keeping the spring on the two ends. I finely added large washers, the
cowling countersunk type .
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
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From: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Rudder cable tension springs
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "M@nsfield" <nsfield@screaming.net>
>
> Almost academic question re the rudder cable tension springs.
>
> The manual p.22-6 says to hook one end of the spring to an FL10 spacer
> bolted
> through the firewall at the front, but the other end to an OR9 spacer
> bolted
> to the CS21 (attached to the rudder pedals).
>
> The FL9 is a smaller spacer than the FL10 and the spring is kinda tight in
> the smaller gap; a good fit in the FL10 though.
>
> I asked Andy and he couldn't actually remember why different spacers were
> specified at the time the manual was written - maybe tight fit with the
> engine
> mount, but he couldn't be sure... we agreed it was best to just "build it
> as written & not worry" ... but I do!! (only intellectually...)
>
> Any clever ideas why the difference, please?
>
> Paul M
> Mono XS 383
> CM etc in, top on next
>
>
> Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
> Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
> Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
>
>
>
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