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1. 01:25 AM - Re: gas mixing (Jeremy Davey)
2. 01:46 AM - Re: Two points (nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk)
3. 04:33 AM - Re: Two points (Jeremy Davey)
4. 07:19 AM - Air Switch (Troy Maynor)
5. 07:31 AM - Re: Two points (Fergus Kyle)
6. 07:56 AM - Re: Air Switch (Jeremy Davey)
7. 11:39 AM - Re: Air Switch (David Joyce)
8. 12:39 PM - Rotax 912 oil change interval (David Corbett)
9. 01:05 PM - Re: Air Switch (Jeremy Davey)
10. 01:56 PM - Re: gas mixing ()
11. 02:21 PM - Re: Air Switch (nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk)
12. 02:25 PM - Re: PDA Programme (Fergus Kyle)
13. 03:11 PM - Re: Two points (Pete Lawless)
14. 04:15 PM - Re: Mass Balance Arm Cable Attach (DJGeldermann)
15. 07:39 PM - Re: Mass Balance Arm Cable Attach (Jos Okhuijsen)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
So, out of curiosity, what octane (MON) mogas do you use in a 914 in the US?
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1380 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
kbcarpenter@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
--> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
Ok it's a stupid question. I was thinking of the times when traveling and
one can get auto fuel and 100 LL at the same airport. If you mixed them,
you would be loading the engine with less lead. I realize one can use TCP
also to reduce the lead build-up. In the US, fields that have auto gas only
have 87 octane so it cannot be used in the 914.
ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> MON = Motor Octane Number. There is no direct relationship between RON and
> MON and the difference between the two in the case of a single fuel is
> used
> as a measure of temperature sensitivity.
>
> Duncan mcF.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: gas mixing
>
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>>
>> Richard and Ken,
>>
>> I may be wrong, but is it possible Ken is confusing octane ratings. 87
>> octane at the pumps in the US is 87 Octane MON (Mean Octane Number?),
>> whereas the 95 octane stuff we're told to use in Europa is 95 Octane RON
>> (Research Octane Number).
>>
>> The two are not the same measure, and MON gives a lower number than RON.
>> 87MON is not far from 95RON, but my recommendation would be to do an MSN
>> Search for these terms and come to an educated understanding of which
>> auto
>> gas you can use in the US.
>>
>> Either that, or ask a few folks flying Rotaxes what they use! :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> Jeremy Davey
>> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
>> PFA EC Member
>> If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it
>> is
>> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
>> Tail done
>> Standard XS wings with mods underway
>> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
>> 1380 build hours to date
>> Intended fit:
>> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
>> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R Holder
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
>>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>>
>> kenneth b. carpenter wrote:
>> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "kenneth b.
>> > carpenter" <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
>> >
>> > Has anyone explored the issue of mixing 50/50 87
>> > octane auto gas with 100 LL to get 93 octane gas for
>> > 914T engines? I think 912S engines also need 93 octane
>> > gas. Sounds like it would be better for the engine
>> > than 100LL alone. Ken Carpenter N 9XS 914T
>>
>> Why not just use 91 or 93 octane Auto gas !
>>
>> If you are carting auto gas into your hanger to mix it
>> with Avgas, why not just use auto gas ?
>>
>> 912 912S and 914 all run on Mogas (auto gas) and the oil
>> needs to be changed every 25 hours if more than 30% Avgas
>> is used. The oil changes are at 50 hour intervals if you
>> use Mogas.
>>
>> Mogas is also cheaper ($5 a US gal here in England)
>> compared with over $7 a US gal for AVGAS.
>>
>> Richard Holder
>> Europa TriGear G-OWWW High Cross
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
My experience is the exact opposite to yours. With cars I have had 2 lazy
thermostats and one throttle cable break. A cable in this application is
not going to get used as much or as much load as a throttle cable neither
is it as critical. In practice I lay odds that I will get mod approval easier
for a air flap control than getting permission for a thermostat. I remember
the subject coming up once before with reference to the cooling system and
I think the PFA was none too keen so I think that modifying the oil system
would take a bit of convincing.
Nigel
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:42:04 +0100
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
>
>Morning Nigel
>
>When did you last have a termostat fail on a car? I spent 20 years
>driving upwards of 50,000 a year with my wife's car doing an additional
>10,000 and in all that time I have not replaced one thermostat. On the
>other hand I have had to change bowden cables on aeroplanes serveral
>times, even one of the throttle cables on the Europa has needed
>changing.
>
>Even if your thermostat does fail cutting out the radiator it still does
>not stop the oil flowing.
>
>Regards
>
>Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel
>charles
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
>--> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>>The wire to your flap could sieze or break and you would be in the same
>state.<
>
>Seizure is very unlikely and would probably be found preflight. If it
>broke the airflow would probably give a partial open position (spring
>loading would ensure this). In any event there would be enough cooling
>for cruise and descent. If a failure happened in T/O or climb a quick
>return to the airfield would be easy enough with partial cooling.
>
>Nigel
>
>
>--
>
>
>--
>
>
Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
We've obviously got to get you out of those old Ladas, Nigel :-)
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1380 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
My experience is the exact opposite to yours. With cars I have had 2 lazy
thermostats and one throttle cable break. A cable in this application is
not going to get used as much or as much load as a throttle cable neither
is it as critical. In practice I lay odds that I will get mod approval
easier
for a air flap control than getting permission for a thermostat. I remember
the subject coming up once before with reference to the cooling system and
I think the PFA was none too keen so I think that modifying the oil system
would take a bit of convincing.
Nigel
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:42:04 +0100
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
>
>Morning Nigel
>
>When did you last have a termostat fail on a car? I spent 20 years
>driving upwards of 50,000 a year with my wife's car doing an additional
>10,000 and in all that time I have not replaced one thermostat. On the
>other hand I have had to change bowden cables on aeroplanes serveral
>times, even one of the throttle cables on the Europa has needed
>changing.
>
>Even if your thermostat does fail cutting out the radiator it still does
>not stop the oil flowing.
>
>Regards
>
>Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel
>charles
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
>--> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>>The wire to your flap could sieze or break and you would be in the same
>state.<
>
>Seizure is very unlikely and would probably be found preflight. If it
>broke the airflow would probably give a partial open position (spring
>loading would ensure this). In any event there would be enough cooling
>for cruise and descent. If a failure happened in T/O or climb a quick
>return to the airfield would be easy enough with partial cooling.
>
>Nigel
>
>
>--
>
>
>--
>
>
Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
Hi All,
I have searched and searched to no avail. Sometime back there was discussed
those who have installed highly sensitive air switches into the pitot system
to be used to turn on things like Hobbs flight timers or to be part of a
gear warning system. I think I can find one in Digikey but I wanted to get
information from you that have had success with a particular switch. I
wanted to be able to adjust it to say 65 mph to trigger my landing gear
relay. I remember exchanges with someone late last year but I lost my hard
drive in January and may have lost the messages if I saved them. I could not
come up with the right search term on the list either. Can anyone help?
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
|
| We've obviously got to get you out of those old Ladas, Nigel :-)
| Jeremy Davey
Norty, norty............
Ferg
| Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
|
| --> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
|
| My experience is the exact opposite to yours. With cars I have had 2 lazy
| thermostats and one throttle cable break. A cable in this application is
| not going to get used as much or as much load as a throttle cable neither
| is it as critical. In practice I lay odds that I will get mod approval
| easier for a air flap control than getting permission for a thermostat. I
remember
| the subject coming up once before with reference to the cooling system and
| I think the PFA was none too keen so I think that modifying the oil system
| would take a bit of convincing.|
| Nigel
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Troy,
What about the ones used in the Factory stall warner - that's very accurate
and sensitive. You may need one that worked in the opposite sense, but I'm
sure that'll exist, too.
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1380 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy Maynor
Subject: Europa-List: Air Switch
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
Hi All,
I have searched and searched to no avail. Sometime back there was discussed
those who have installed highly sensitive air switches into the pitot system
to be used to turn on things like Hobbs flight timers or to be part of a
gear warning system. I think I can find one in Digikey but I wanted to get
information from you that have had success with a particular switch. I
wanted to be able to adjust it to say 65 mph to trigger my landing gear
relay. I remember exchanges with someone late last year but I lost my hard
drive in January and may have lost the messages if I saved them. I could not
come up with the right search term on the list either. Can anyone help?
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Jeremy, The factory stall warner has two orifices, one for sucking and one
for blowing! If you plumb into the wrong one it doesn't work as a stall
warner, but I guess it might work in either mode if the right stimulus is
applied. Regards, David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Air Switch
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> Troy,
>
> What about the ones used in the Factory stall warner - that's very
accurate
> and sensitive. You may need one that worked in the opposite sense, but I'm
> sure that'll exist, too.
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 oil change interval |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <david.corbett5@btinternet.com>
There is nothing in my Rotax Operator's Manual - admittedly som 7/8
years old - that tells me that I must change oil every 25 hours if using
AVGAS - am I missing a trick here?
David
G-BZAM, UK 265
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
David,
Sounds like you have the perfect answer for Troy! :-)
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1380 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Air Switch
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Jeremy, The factory stall warner has two orifices, one for sucking and one
for blowing! If you plumb into the wrong one it doesn't work as a stall
warner, but I guess it might work in either mode if the right stimulus is
applied. Regards, David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Air Switch
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> Troy,
>
> What about the ones used in the Factory stall warner - that's very
accurate
> and sensitive. You may need one that worked in the opposite sense, but I'm
> sure that'll exist, too.
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
Use 93 octane, so it says on the pump.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: gas mixing
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>
> So, out of curiosity, what octane (MON) mogas do you use in a 914 in the
> US?
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
> PFA EC Member
> If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1380 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> kbcarpenter@comcast.net
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
>
> Ok it's a stupid question. I was thinking of the times when traveling and
> one can get auto fuel and 100 LL at the same airport. If you mixed them,
> you would be loading the engine with less lead. I realize one can use TCP
> also to reduce the lead build-up. In the US, fields that have auto gas
> only
>
> have 87 octane so it cannot be used in the 914.
> ken
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
>
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
>> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>>
>> MON = Motor Octane Number. There is no direct relationship between RON
>> and
>> MON and the difference between the two in the case of a single fuel is
>> used
>> as a measure of temperature sensitivity.
>>
>> Duncan mcF.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RE: Europa-List: gas mixing
>>
>>
>>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
>>> <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
>>>
>>> Richard and Ken,
>>>
>>> I may be wrong, but is it possible Ken is confusing octane ratings. 87
>>> octane at the pumps in the US is 87 Octane MON (Mean Octane Number?),
>>> whereas the 95 octane stuff we're told to use in Europa is 95 Octane RON
>>> (Research Octane Number).
>>>
>>> The two are not the same measure, and MON gives a lower number than RON.
>>> 87MON is not far from 95RON, but my recommendation would be to do an MSN
>>> Search for these terms and come to an educated understanding of which
>>> auto
>>> gas you can use in the US.
>>>
>>> Either that, or ask a few folks flying Rotaxes what they use! :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> Jeremy Davey
>>> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>>> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
>>> PFA EC Member
>>> If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it
>>> is
>>> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
>>> Tail done
>>> Standard XS wings with mods underway
>>> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
>>> 1380 build hours to date
>>> Intended fit:
>>> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
>>> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R Holder
>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
>>>
>>> --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>>>
>>> kenneth b. carpenter wrote:
>>> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "kenneth b.
>>> > carpenter" <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
>>> >
>>> > Has anyone explored the issue of mixing 50/50 87
>>> > octane auto gas with 100 LL to get 93 octane gas for
>>> > 914T engines? I think 912S engines also need 93 octane
>>> > gas. Sounds like it would be better for the engine
>>> > than 100LL alone. Ken Carpenter N 9XS 914T
>>>
>>> Why not just use 91 or 93 octane Auto gas !
>>>
>>> If you are carting auto gas into your hanger to mix it
>>> with Avgas, why not just use auto gas ?
>>>
>>> 912 912S and 914 all run on Mogas (auto gas) and the oil
>>> needs to be changed every 25 hours if more than 30% Avgas
>>> is used. The oil changes are at 50 hour intervals if you
>>> use Mogas.
>>>
>>> Mogas is also cheaper ($5 a US gal here in England)
>>> compared with over $7 a US gal for AVGAS.
>>>
>>> Richard Holder
>>> Europa TriGear G-OWWW High Cross
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
I used a switch provided by RD Aviation (now AFE) in the UK. It is sensitive
and works well.#
Nigel Charles
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Air Switch
>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 10:10:44 -0400
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
>
>Hi All,
>I have searched and searched to no avail. Sometime back there was discussed
>those who have installed highly sensitive air switches into the pitot system
>to be used to turn on things like Hobbs flight timers or to be part of a
>gear warning system. I think I can find one in Digikey but I wanted to get
>information from you that have had success with a particular switch. I
>wanted to be able to adjust it to say 65 mph to trigger my landing gear
>relay. I remember exchanges with someone late last year but I lost my hard
>drive in January and may have lost the messages if I saved them. I could
>not
>come up with the right search term on the list either. Can anyone help?
>Troy Maynor
>N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
>Left to finish:
>Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
>
>
Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
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"Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com>
| Subject: | Re: PDA Programme |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com>
Subject: PDA Programme
Ferg Hi! from the West Country Does this PDA programme mean Pocket PC.
I would be interested in it if its available. Regards Gerry
Gerry,
'scuse me for making your query public.
I believe it's good for most PDAs including Pocket PC - however try
it for yourself. It's called "FastFinger" and am told it's Google-worthy.
The beauty is you can revise the whole screen to have just 2 or 4 buttons of
whatever dimensions, and then programme same to any applicable task. I would
guess that one needs few choices enroute, and you can change colours, sizes
and cascade a second page of buttons if so desired.
I don't have a PeeDeeAy, so let me know your success...............
Cheers, Ferg
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Hi Nigel
The thing with a lazy thermostat is you know it is not working properly
well before it becomes a real problem.
The other down side for us old chaps with bad memory is remembering to
adjust the flap that controls the oil temperature! It is something else
to remember, I know eventually it would be left on when it should be off
or vis versa. It is a bit like carb heat controls that we all know have
to be operated but aeroplanes loose engine power regularly because of
carb icing. The thermostat just gets on with it and does not require me
to do anything. I totally agree with you about mod approval, but I
still know which I would prefer.
There are aeroplanes (not Europas as far as I know) out there with both
oil and water thermostats which are, I believe, approved mods.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
--> Europa-List message posted by: nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk
My experience is the exact opposite to yours. With cars I have had 2
lazy thermostats and one throttle cable break. A cable in this
application is not going to get used as much or as much load as a
throttle cable neither is it as critical. In practice I lay odds that I
will get mod approval easier for a air flap control than getting
permission for a thermostat. I remember the subject coming up once
before with reference to the cooling system and I think the PFA was none
too keen so I think that modifying the oil system would take a bit of
convincing.
Nigel
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
>Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:42:04 +0100
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
>
>Morning Nigel
>
>When did you last have a termostat fail on a car? I spent 20 years
>driving upwards of 50,000 a year with my wife's car doing an additional
>10,000 and in all that time I have not replaced one thermostat. On the
>other hand I have had to change bowden cables on aeroplanes serveral
>times, even one of the throttle cables on the Europa has needed
>changing.
>
>Even if your thermostat does fail cutting out the radiator it still
>does not stop the oil flowing.
>
>Regards
>
>Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel
>charles
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two points
>
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
>--> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>>The wire to your flap could sieze or break and you would be in the
>>same
>state.<
>
>Seizure is very unlikely and would probably be found preflight. If it
>broke the airflow would probably give a partial open position (spring
>loading would ensure this). In any event there would be enough cooling
>for cruise and descent. If a failure happened in T/O or climb a quick
>return to the airfield would be easy enough with partial cooling.
>
>Nigel
>
>
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Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/
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| Subject: | Re: Mass Balance Arm Cable Attach |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "DJGeldermann" <djgeldermann@cox.net>
Anyone heard more on the outcome of the 6 mass balance arm prototype
reviews?
Dan
A-139
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Weert" <tim.weert@hccnet.nl>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mass Balance Arm Cable Attach
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Weert" <tim.weert@hccnet.nl>
>
> Hi Tony,
>
>
> I spoke Andy from Europa 2004. He told me that a (mandatory) modification
> on
> the mass balance arm will be available soon. Europa is testing a few
> prototypes (6) at this moment. After approval of the PFA, the mod will
> become available for all Europa's. In a few weeks we will all know more
> about the approved modificated mass balance arm. There is a good change
> that
> a prototype without cables will be the final solution.
>
>
> If you wait a few weeks, it may safe you a lot time right now.
>
>
> Regards, Tim.
>
>
> Heerhugowaard,
>
> PH-JAI
>
> 460 XS TG 914UL Airmaster
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Mass Balance Arm Cable Attach
>
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
>> <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>>
>> Gidday,
>> I am studying my tailplane setup and wondering if it is normal to have
>> the
>> cables that stabilise the mass balance arm wrapped around the white
>> plastic
>> tubes in such a fashion that the looping creates an overlap on the back
>> edge of the plastic sleeve, held in position under tension only by the
>> small protrudence of the pin base? Now I am unsure which way the pins
>> should be, but I have decided that I want the heads of my pins forwards,
>> as
>> I have little holes adjacent in the rear tail bulkhead that will be
>> accessible from another hole in the sternpost, so that I can use a long
>> rod
>> to tap them out again in the future, plus also drive them home from
>> within
>> the tail. This is probably the normal way anyway, to have the heads
>> facing
>> forwards, but I haven't reviewed the manual on this as I have my own
>> intentions anyway. So, I do however have the problem that if the cable
>> was
>> to flex on one side, it could enable the slack side to slip inboard over
>> the tail of the pin. Whether this would ever happen is probably the
>> question to ask, as it would mean that the other cable under tension
>> would
>> have to stretch to allow the other to go slack. I suppose this then begs
>> another question which is how tight to make these cables. I have
>> turnbuckles, so I can tweak them until they are tight as I like. Is there
>> any advice as to how tight is enough an not too much. I suppose the
>> tighter
>> the less likelihood of further stretching which is what I am trying to
>> negate with a lateral load, which is of itself a questionable load
>> anyway.
>> How am I going to fly my plane in such a fashion that I get a lateral
>> load
>> of sufficient strength that it allows one cable to stretch and the other
>> to
>> go slack and slip over the tail of the pin. My aircraft probably would
>> break elsewhere. I am simply seeing the length of my pins as being
>> apparently inadaquate to also act as a containment
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mass Balance Arm Cable Attach |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Dan,
It's close Andy said, couple of weeks.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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