Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 05/01/05


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 05:29 AM - Re: Mod 70 (davebuzz)
     2. 11:55 AM - May 21 2005 Benton, Kansas (Mike Baker)
     3. 12:17 PM - Not mod 70, scd (somethingcompletelydifferent) (josok)
     4. 12:25 PM - Trim Speed controller (Paul McAllister)
     5. 01:34 PM - Cure for intermittent flap motor (Duncan McFadyean)
     6. 02:32 PM - Re: Trim Speed controller (R.C.Harrison)
     7. 08:27 PM - Re: Not mod 70, scd (somethingcompletelydifferent) (SteveD)
     8. 09:33 PM - Re: Mikes Fears, Mod 70 (Tony Krzyzewski)
     9. 11:44 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:29:01 AM PST US
    From: "davebuzz" <davebuzz@aol.com>
    Subject: Mod 70
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "davebuzz" <davebuzz@aol.com> Hello Mike, I have turnbuckles in 'UM, modded through the PFA back in 1997. I will call EA2004 next week and we will see what happens - I will get back to you and the Members/list when I have something to say, so it may take a day or three! BTW It is a holiday weekend in the UK so the Factory/PFA wont be back until Tuesday. As for Mod70 now, Pete Jeffers will be applying that to his (un-turnbuckled) group Europa midweek, with the group members flying it afterwards, and he has offered to report (roses, warts and all) on the installation and flying qualities by the end of next weekend (8 May). Some of you may wish to read that before installing the Mod, perhaps it will allay perceptions and fears, perhaps not. We'll put the report up for you all when its ready, but don't expect it till next weekend. Dave Bosomworth Europa Club Chairman


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    Time: 11:55:07 AM PST US
    From: Mike Baker <galahav@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: May 21 2005 Benton, Kansas
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Mike Baker <galahav@yahoo.com> Hi all, Big Fly in in Benton, Kansas May 21 2005 Come see us, http://www.bentonairpark.com/metadot/index.pl http://www.airnav.com/airport/1K1 Mary & Mike Baker Benton, KS Europa A286


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    Time: 12:17:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Not mod 70, scd (somethingcompletelydifferent)
    From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
    1.64 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty 0.10 TO_EMPTY To: is empty 1.72 MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID Message-Id for external message added locally --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> Hi All, The only thing it has to do with the europa is that it is a taildragger, hopefully my monowhell to be can do iceflying too! http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=Skiplane_1_May_2005&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php and please try to reassemble the whole url? Regards, Jos Okhuijsen ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 12:25:58 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Trim Speed controller
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I have just fitted a trim speed controller sold by Matt Drilled to N378PJ. I have test flown it for about 2 hours and the aircraft is now much more easily trimmed out. Previously I found that the smallest jab of trim would often be too much, but now with Matt's speed controller it trims out very nicely. For anyone thinking about making the trim less sensitive I can recommend it. Regards, Paul 206 hours and still grinning


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    Time: 01:34:16 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Cure for intermittent flap motor
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Following indications on this Forum that the above problem could be cured by cleaning of the flap motor brushes, and a request for feedback on the work involved, here's a summary plus long version of what's involved: Summary: Cleaning the flap motor commutator and brushes cures intermittent flap motor operation and speeds up flap movement.. Long Version: The commutator and brushes of the (early type) flap motor can become contaminated with lubricant from the tail bearing of the motor. This bearing is a micro-ball race with a labyrinth seal; any excess or additional lubricant drip-fed into the bearing will pass straight down on to the commutator. The flap motor/servo does not need to be taken off the aircraft and the work can be done in situ, gaining access through the D-cover in the back of the cockpit. A pile of cushions in the back of the cockpit provides some comfort while doing the work. In particular a very thick blanket draped over the edge of the D-cover aperture provides relief to the armpits when leaning through the aperture. There are two Phillips-headed screws on top of the motor casing; these screws pass the full length of the motor and hold everything together. Remove the screws. Withdraw the end housing (which retains the tail bearing) and brush holder. The spring loaded brushes will pop out of the holder, but are electrically connected by wire tails, so won't fall out on to the floor. The casing of the motor (which holds the permanent field magnets) can also be withdrawn, but this is not essential. The armature is captured at the gearbox end of the servo, so won't come out. However, there are a number of steel shims on the tail-end of the armature that can be dislodged as the end housing is withdrawn; these shims can fall off and become 'stuck' to the field magnets in the outer casing; with poor light, it's difficult to spot that this has happened. There is one insulating washer under the stack of shims. Commutator and brushes can now be cleaned; Q-tip (cotton bud) helps with the latter. Now the fiddly bit of holding back the brush-springs while getting the brushes back into the holder. This can be easily achieved with a 1/2" to 5/8" wide strip of stiff card inserted edgewise between the springs, holding the springs back while the brushes are reinserted into the holder. There is a convenient slot in the brush holder provided for this purpose and prevents the piece of stiff card from slipping out during this operation.The brush holder can now be placed back in position over the commutator and, when in place, the strip of stiff card withdrawn allowing the springs to push the brushes down on to the commutator. Reseat end housing, reinsert the two Phillips-headed screws and retreat from aircraft. Done. Duncan McF.


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    Time: 02:32:32 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Trim Speed controller
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> Hi! Paul Well done! They have just sent me a replacement relay deck on the off chance it sorts out my trim reverse problem I'll keep you posted ! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Do not archive. Robt.C.Harrison -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Subject: Europa-List: Trim Speed controller --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I have just fitted a trim speed controller sold by Matt Drilled to N378PJ. I have test flown it for about 2 hours and the aircraft is now much more easily trimmed out. Previously I found that the smallest jab of trim would often be too much, but now with Matt's speed controller it trims out very nicely. For anyone thinking about making the trim less sensitive I can recommend it. Regards, Paul 206 hours and still grinning


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    Time: 08:27:31 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Not mod 70, scd (somethingcompletelydifferent)
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> This Url Works also: http://www.europaowners.org/Skiplane_1_May_2005 Steved ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 09:33:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Mikes Fears, Mod 70
    From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
    Received-SPF: none --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz> >>> Your fears are shared in my hanger as well. In that I am in the USA, I will take my new stronger mass balance arm to my trusty welder and have a cable attachment flange put on it. As you so wisely concluded, the cable installation was not designed well. The idea is fine, but if a builder can not do it well, it is a bad design. I installed the turnbuckles and feel that fixed the design problem. Your comments are reflected by some in NZ also and I know of three builders who, myself included, will be welding a cable attachment flange to it and using the existing turnbuckle tensioned stay wires on it. My father, who is a mechanical engineer, told me many years ago that if you want something to stay put make it out of triangles and that's what I intend retaining on my mass balance arm. Regards Tony


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    Time: 11:44:28 PM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Europa-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Lister, Please read over the Europa-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Europa-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Europa-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Europa-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Europa-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Europa-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Europa-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Europa-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. ------- [This is an automated posting.]




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