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Fri 05/06/05


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 12:40 AM - Grand rapids EIS 4000 (ctsmallwood)
     2. 01:10 AM - Re: LAS taking on ACS orders in the UK (John Cliff)
     3. 04:19 AM - Airmaster AC200 manual switch? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
     4. 04:46 AM - where to get 914 Semi Synthetic oil in US? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
     5. 05:38 AM - Re: Fw: The mother of all model airplanes (Jos Okhuijsen)
     6. 07:28 AM - Re: Grand rapids EIS 4000 (G-IANI)
     7. 08:29 AM - Re: Airmaster AC200 manual switch? (Cliff Shaw)
     8. 10:17 AM - Re: Airmaster AC200 manual switch? (Terry Seaver (terrys))
     9. 12:17 PM - Re: Airmaster AC200 manual switch? (Tim Ward)
    10. 01:42 PM - Re: Airmaster AC200 manual switch? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
    11. 05:08 PM - Re: LAS taking on ACS orders in the UK (JR (Bob) Gowing)
    12. 06:22 PM - Re: High Oil temperature (SPurpura@aol.com)
    13. 06:25 PM - Re: where to get 914 Semi Synthetic oil in US? (Steve Hagar)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:14 AM PST US
    From: "ctsmallwood" <ctsmallwood@onetel.com>
    Subject: Grand rapids EIS 4000
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ctsmallwood" <ctsmallwood@onetel.com> Hi All Any one fitted the above IN LINE with the Rotax TACHO 12V supplied gauge? Would welcome views on Hook up.Grand Rapids suggest OK, using same link as Flydat. Regards Colin Smallwood Kit 232 ,engine run OK


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    Time: 01:10:10 AM PST US
    From: "John Cliff" <mx@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: LAS taking on ACS orders in the UK
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff" <mx@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk> > I guess all the UK folks are aware the existing arrangements for local ACS > orders have ended? I now see that LAS are taking them on and doing > twice-weekly consolidated shipping of ACS parts before onward > distribution. > > Does this fill everyone else with the same feeling of doom that it gives > me? Well, my experience with Light Aero Spares has been fairly positive. I order only by phone and you get to hear if something isn't in stock. The prices are in the catalogue, so if you don't like them ...... Delivery has always been prompt and by post. Actually I welcome the return to consolidated shipping via LAS, as used to be the practice some years ago. The problem with smallish orders to ACS is the high fixed cost of the carriage (even though they will send light and small items by post which takes a while but is a bit cheaper and often arrive with no duty or VAT levied - even if it is the Royal Mail admin charge is much lower than that of people like UPS). It *might* provide a way to get things at lower end-to-end cost for those of us who don't visit the US regularly - we will have to look at the actual charges. Otherwise, continue to use the website. John Cliff #0259


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    Time: 04:19:11 AM PST US
    From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: Airmaster AC200 manual switch?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Into the panel at the moment, trying to figure out what is needed to make on order Airmaster AC200 Manual switch inputs happy. I got an answer from Martin that they use a DPDT rated at 5 amps. Waiting for answer on my more pointed question. Since I want to use a SPDT Mom-Off-Mom rated 1 amp on Ray Allen Grip, I will need to plumb in 2 relays. My question: Does in fact the manual switch direct control the pitch motor, where you would want to short the 2 leads going to the motor when in the off position to incorporate braking? In other words just like what the pitch trim switch does supplied by Europa (Ray Allen) where they actual use 2 SPDT switches where COMM is output to motor and they tie ground to NC and tie positive to NO ? Push on 1 switch and you go 1 direction, push on the other, go in other direction, let go of both, and short 2 motor leads and get braking. Or does the manual switch just control electronics in the AC200, and a DPDT output should be fine. Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 04:46:34 AM PST US
    From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: where to get 914 Semi Synthetic oil in US?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Rotax SI-18 recommendation for 914UL that will use 100LL once in a while is a semi synthetic SG motorcycle oil with gear additive. What brand is available and from where in US? I saw on CPS site they offer AV-9, but also read that it had shown some foaming in testing and was supposed to be reformulated. Lockwood recommends mobile 1 MX4-T, and change it at 25 hours, but that is a pure synthetic. For most part I will probably use mogas, but on trips, 100LL. thx. Sincerely Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 05:38:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: The mother of all model airplanes
    From: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> No worry Bob, It's about flying and a good one too! Thanks for letting us see this, Regards, Jos Okhuijsen


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    Time: 07:28:18 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Grand rapids EIS 4000
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com> Mine works fine on my 914. Just parallel the Tacho Pin 2 connection to the EIS Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ctsmallwood Subject: Europa-List: Grand rapids EIS 4000 --> Europa-List message posted by: "ctsmallwood" <ctsmallwood@onetel.com> Hi All Any one fitted the above IN LINE with the Rotax TACHO 12V supplied gauge? Would welcome views on Hook up.Grand Rapids suggest OK, using same link as Flydat. Regards Colin Smallwood Kit 232 ,engine run OK


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    Time: 08:29:56 AM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Airmaster AC200 manual switch?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Ron I am flying with the Airmaster. I love it. It is automatic, I repeat AUTOMATIC !!!! I never find it to any advantage to switch off the automatic and go to manual. The only time I have used the manual is when I am parked and need to demonstrate the variable pitch to someone. I do not think it would be or any advantage to have the "fine / coarse" switch on the control stick. Just my opinion. Remember "I am an armature" Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE


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    Time: 10:17:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Airmaster AC200 manual switch?
    From: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com> Hi Cliff, I must disagree, just a little. 1) The manual position is how you cycle the prop during the run-up, to verify its operation just before launching into the wild blue yonder. At 4000 rpm, you switch to 'manual' and then hold the fine/course switch to 'course' until you get an rpm drop, then switch to 'auto' and verify the rpms auto-magically come back up. 2) If the water temps start to get out of hand on the ground, it has been found useful by some people to manually place the prop into course pitch to get more air past the radiator. Regards, Terry Seaver -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Shaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Airmaster AC200 manual switch? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Ron I am flying with the Airmaster. I love it. It is automatic, I repeat AUTOMATIC !!!! I never find it to any advantage to switch off the automatic and go to manual. The only time I have used the manual is when I am parked and need to demonstrate the variable pitch to someone. I do not think it would be or any advantage to have the "fine / coarse" switch on the control stick. Just my opinion. Remember "I am an armature" Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE


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    Time: 12:17:14 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Airmaster AC200 manual switch?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> Cliff, Also downwind in the circuits, I switch to HOLD and adjust the RPM to 4300, as you otherwise pick up speed downwind at CRUISE 5000 and only have to take it all off again to put the undercarriage down. We are talking about the best of course ....Monowheel Classic ... I take it!! Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster AC200 manual switch? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" > <terrys@cisco.com> > > Hi Cliff, > > I must disagree, just a little. > > 1) The manual position is how you cycle the prop during the run-up, to > verify its operation just before launching into the wild blue yonder. > At 4000 rpm, you switch to 'manual' and then hold the fine/course switch > to 'course' until you get an rpm drop, then switch to 'auto' and verify > the rpms auto-magically come back up. > > 2) If the water temps start to get out of hand on the ground, it has > been found useful by some people to manually place the prop into course > pitch to get more air past the radiator. > > Regards, > Terry Seaver > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Shaw > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Airmaster AC200 manual switch? > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> > > Ron > > I am flying with the Airmaster. I love it. It is automatic, I repeat > AUTOMATIC !!!! > > I never find it to any advantage to switch off the automatic and go to > manual. The only time I have used the manual is when I am parked and > need to demonstrate the variable pitch to someone. > > I do not think it would be or any advantage to have the "fine / coarse" > switch on the control stick. > > Just my opinion. Remember "I am an armature" > > Cliff Shaw > 1041 Euclid ave. > Edmonds, WA 98020 > 425 776 5555 > http://www.europaowners.org/WileE > > >


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    Time: 01:42:40 PM PST US
    From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: Re: Airmaster AC200 manual switch?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Thx. Terry and Cliff I had in mind: To verify operation before take off Go Course to keep things cool on ground When making long, shallow fast descents, go course When fooling with favorite hold settings (manual switch controls hold as well) Since not sure best way to warm motor after in-flight start with a cold motor, it will be played with in both hold and manual mode I read the manual, and seems if the AC200 quits, for any number of reasons, the manual switch will get a workout I forget just how useful the Manual switch is for Feather/Unfeather operations. I am not sure if Course will make for an easier air start, which will require manual Cliff admits "Just my opinion. Remember "I am an armature" I am far worst, just a ARMCHAIR READER! Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 05:08:40 PM PST US
    From: "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
    Subject: Re: LAS taking on ACS orders in the UK
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au> ACS had this arrangement in Aust for a while J R (Bob) Gowing, UK Kit 327 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: LAS taking on ACS orders in the UK > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> > > Nooooooo! ACS(E) are no more, dead, deceased, pushing up the daisies... > > LCS have struck a deal with ACS where you CAN (not MUST!) buy ACS parts from > them, ACS ship to LCS twice a week, LCS then forward your bits to you... > > Jeremy Davey > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA > Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative > PFA EC Member > If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is > possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation. > Tail done > Standard XS wings with mods underway > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) > 1390 build hours to date > Intended fit: > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R Holder > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: LAS taking on ACS orders in the UK > > --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > > > LAS are Light Aero Spares. I usually do as you do - go direct via the ACS > > Web Site and take delivery when in the US on business (about 6 times a > > year). > > > > Unfortunately every so often I need a small part or two reasonably > quickly, > > so LAS are the only option I know. They're utterly incompetent, in my > > experience - so them taking over the ACS(E) arrangements is something of a > > concern! > > I didn't know ACS (E) had any such arrangements. In the > past I havee ordered through ACS (E) and the stuff has > been delivered direct. Has this changed ? As I, the > customer, am paying the individual shipping charges from > ACS to me I don't see the advantage to ACS of delivering > via LAS, especially if there are large mark-ups by the > middle man. > > Are you saying that if you order from ACS via the web-site > and put your address in as the UK the delivery is shipped > to LAS who then on-ship it to you ? Thus incurring two > lots of delivery charges, and of course the certainty of > being charged VAT ? > > If you do this - does the web-site tell you that there is > a middle man in the process ? > > All ACS deliveries come with a "Tell us how well we > processed this order" postcard. Perhaps a few of these > returned to ACS with negative comments about the > involvement of LAS would change their minds. > > Actually my experience of LAS for stuff in their catalogue > is quite reasonable. I ordered a water/fuel separator > funnel once which came with ACS stickers but at a price > less than the ACS catalogue price - (old stock ??) > > Richard > >


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    Time: 06:22:37 PM PST US
    From: SPurpura@aol.com
    Subject: Re: High Oil temperature
    --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com YOU KNOW YOU NEED AT LEAST 190=B0 TO BURN OFF ANY MOISTURE IN THE OIL. SAM N77EU


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    Time: 06:25:58 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: where to get 914 Semi Synthetic oil in US?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> Valvoline Dura Blend 10w-40 is recommended. I found it at K-Mart! Steve Hagar A143 Mesa, AZ Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: Ronald J. Parigoris <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Date: 5/6/2005 4:46:11 AM > Subject: Europa-List: where to get 914 Semi Synthetic oil in US? > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> > > Rotax SI-18 recommendation for 914UL that will use 100LL once in a while is a semi > synthetic SG motorcycle oil with gear additive. > > What brand is available and from where in US? > > I saw on CPS site they offer AV-9, but also read that it had shown some foaming in > testing and was supposed to be reformulated. > > Lockwood recommends mobile 1 MX4-T, and change it at 25 hours, but that is a pure > synthetic. > > For most part I will probably use mogas, but on trips, 100LL. > > thx. > Sincerely > Ron Parigoris > >




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