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1. 01:08 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Alan Burrows)
2. 01:26 AM - Re: Waht is your favorite way of locking door? (ivor.phillips)
3. 04:24 AM - Re: Help with oil hose (Jim Butcher)
4. 05:04 AM - Re: rudder stops (Kingsley Hurst)
5. 05:22 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Paul McAllister)
6. 05:29 AM - Re: rudder stops (Raimo Toivio)
7. 06:11 AM - Re: Waht is your favorite way of locking door? (KARL HEINDL)
8. 07:02 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Gerry Holland)
9. 07:02 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (EuropaForum)
10. 07:02 AM - Re: Through the firewall (David Joyce)
11. 07:07 AM - Oil hose, etc. (John & Paddy Wigney)
12. 07:22 AM - Re: Trailer Wing Support (N55XS)
13. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Help with oil hose (N55XS)
14. 08:21 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Cliff Shaw)
15. 08:31 AM - Arlington (Cliff Shaw)
16. 10:43 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Gerry Holland)
17. 02:02 PM - Re: rudder stops (karelvranken)
18. 06:23 PM - Re: Top On! (Craig Ellison)
19. 06:48 PM - ammeter wiring (Craig Ellison)
20. 06:59 PM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Matthew Carpenter)
21. 07:57 PM - Re: ammeter wiring (Cliff Shaw)
22. 08:04 PM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Cliff Shaw)
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| Subject: | EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
I too am interested in this unit as I've just one and its still "in the
box" so all help and advise would be appreciated.
Many Thanks
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry
Holland
Subject: Europa-List: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Hi!
Whilst waiting to lose weight for Mod 70 I decided to do something
constructive.....well maybe!
I=B9ve assembled the EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold Module that was talked over a
couple of years ago and after classic errors in polarity of capacitors
and diodes have a Unit that no longer self destructs. It=B9s now time to
upload the Basic programme but I have Comm errors.
I=B9ve connected the programming port to BS2 pins 1 to 4 via D9 socket.
Some questions:
Should I get any indication on Unit that it is really alive? (Volts all
present)
Any peculiarities regarding the Programme Port handshaking?
Is anyone using the Unit and is it worth the trouble in a Europa?
Many Thanks
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
PSS AoA Fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
Mobile: +44 7808 402404
WebFax: +44 870 7059985
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Waht is your favorite way of locking door? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
I decided to put a T piece of aluminium just to the rear of the handle, this
is bonded inside the door with a small section protruding out,
A small piece of aluminium welded at right angles to the door handle will
contact nicely with the T piece, Drill a hole through both and any small
padlock will do to secure the cockpit,
I decided to do it this way to make it obvious that the doors are locked ,
so no chance of having internal locks broken by somebody not realising there
own strength and pulling on the handles,
This i copied from a europa at Cranfield a couple of years back
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
undercarriage fitted brakes working
wing lift pins fitted,tiebar fitted instrument
panel being finalised,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Europa-List: Waht is your favorite way of locking door?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
> <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
> What is your favorite way of locking your door on europa?
>
> I kinda like the idea of using a pip pin on the right door, where does it
> go? Between the inner handle and guard?
>
> I do have a set of locks from John Hurst, but they are kinda cheesy, have
> read that if someone leverages the handle hard when locked by the rear
> pushrod it does bad things.
>
> Any thoughts on using a torx safety set screw (Torx with pin in center,
> not
> many folks happen to have one) that lives in the handle, and when you want
> to lock, just screw it into a hardpoint in door?
>
> thx.
> Ron Parigoris
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help with oil hose |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Jeff,
There was no Conti hose in our FWF either. We used braided teflon lined
hose for the run from the bottom of the engine to the oil tank, past the
exhaust. Purchased it from McMaster p/n 52515K29. Also covered it with
Thermo Sleeve, identical to the cover on the water hoses from Rotax. Get
Thermo Sleeve from Summit Racing www.summitracing.com. P/n THE-14010 and
THE-14015 little stuff for oil hoses, larger stuff for water hoses.
Jim & Heather A185
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| Subject: | Re: rudder stops |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Raimo,
Refer to Europa News Issue No 39 September 2003 Page 14.
Exactly what you want to know is described here presumably by Andy Draper.
Regards
Kingsley
> I want to establish my rudder stops.
> The rudder movement should be 30-32 degrees per side.
> Noticed it is not easy to measure accurately:
> I have made templates, calculated triconometrically,
> completed geometric examinations etc but not happy enough.
>
> Have you got any perfect but human way to do it?
>
> Thanks,
> Raimo M W Toivio
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I would be interested to know if anyone has one of these units flying. A
friend of mine built one for his RV6, but he could never get it to work
properly. Ultimately he re designed his unit, and he needed to supplement
the pressure sensor with a solid state gyro. He also needed to change the
software significantly by adding in PID algorithms. It took him a bout a
year to shake it all down, but it now works really nicely.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: rudder stops |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Hi All!
I have got plenty of great answers
from almost all the continents - I
thank all of you. Also, now I know
there must be Europas flying equipped
with all sorts of different rudder travels
I noticed about 50% think rudder travel
should be measured from the centerline
and rest of the Europa-people think it
should measured via line from the hinge-line
to the trailing edge.
Some people think it is good when "enough".
I think the rudder movement should be
symmetrical for aircraft centerline and that is
why it is better to imagine the hinge-line is
in center.
This is an interesting dilemma.
Please some public conversation more!
Neville - tell us the truth!
Many thanks for all of you,
Raimo
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT #417
OH-CVK
OH-BLL
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
----- Original Message -----
From: "N55XS" <topglock@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder stops
> --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
>
> Raimo,
> I don't know about perfect, but here's what I did. I took a 2x4 and
> stapled a piece of cardboard to it, then drew a line down the center.
> Using a protractor, I drew lines, each side, tangent to the center line,
> at 30 and 32 degrees. I then positioned the 2x4 under the aft end of
> the fuse, arranging the gizmo so that the board ran the center line of
> the fuse and the line intersections at the rudder hinge area. Swung the
> rudder each way and added the stops. Pretty simple, in application...
>
> --
> Jeff - A055
> Finishing engine installation
> Waiting on a prop
> Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
>
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Waht is your favorite way of locking door? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
And remember, there is no need to have two external locks. I lock my
passenger door from the inside: a simple arrangement of pip pin through the
handle guard and handle. As Cliff says any lock is easily defeated by the
bad guy, but you want to avoid kids and others to play around with
thecontrols, and discourage the potential thief who might take a fancy to
your headset.
>From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Waht is your favorite way of locking door?
>Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:25:40 +0100
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips"
><ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
>
>I decided to put a T piece of aluminium just to the rear of the handle,
>this
>is bonded inside the door with a small section protruding out,
>A small piece of aluminium welded at right angles to the door handle will
>contact nicely with the T piece, Drill a hole through both and any small
>padlock will do to secure the cockpit,
>I decided to do it this way to make it obvious that the doors are locked ,
>so no chance of having internal locks broken by somebody not realising
>there
>own strength and pulling on the handles,
>This i copied from a europa at Cranfield a couple of years back
>Ivor Phillips
>XS486 London UK
>CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
>undercarriage fitted brakes working
> wing lift pins fitted,tiebar fitted instrument
>panel being finalised,
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Waht is your favorite way of locking door?
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
> > <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
> >
> > What is your favorite way of locking your door on europa?
> >
> > I kinda like the idea of using a pip pin on the right door, where does
>it
> > go? Between the inner handle and guard?
> >
> > I do have a set of locks from John Hurst, but they are kinda cheesy,
>have
> > read that if someone leverages the handle hard when locked by the rear
> > pushrod it does bad things.
> >
> > Any thoughts on using a torx safety set screw (Torx with pin in center,
> > not
> > many folks happen to have one) that lives in the handle, and when you
>want
> > to lock, just screw it into a hardpoint in door?
> >
> > thx.
> > Ron Parigoris
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Paul Hi!
> I would be interested to know if anyone has one of these units flying. A
> friend of mine built one for his RV6, but he could never get it to work
> properly. Ultimately he re designed his unit, and he needed to supplement
> the pressure sensor with a solid state gyro. He also needed to change the
> software significantly by adding in PID algorithms. It took him a bout a
> year to shake it all down, but it now works really nicely.
Thanks for that update. PID Algorithms are now available as part of the
Basic upload. The PID011501.bs2 source includes modest correction logic. As
the plane continues to deviate a extra amount of integral correction is
added for the next correction. So it alters it's response but starts with a
modest correction.
Any website I can go to see this guys amendments?
I'm still trying to sort out the handshake to allow upload of the source
file!
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaForum <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
I built four units when I was in EZ-trim mode. One went in a Cozy
with a strong pitch trim. The trim on the Cozy is wicked fast and
I've been trying to get my buddy to put in a speed limiter. Needless
to say that unit doesn't work so well. The unit in a Mini Mustang II
works great, my friend wrote all new code to run a hobby servo. A
stock unit was installed in a glastar, I never heard back from him,
so I guess it worked. I plan on writing my own code after I get flying.
I want to see how the trim works at cruse, and may install a servo
speed controller. Setting the Ez-trim up is a two person job, don't
try to do the initial setup in the aircraft alone. The boards we had
made on the list a few years ago have the sockets need to attach the
accelerometer, I think a more powerful stamp is needed to run the
program for it, that is after you write it. ADXL202EB Is the unit
and its available @:
http://www.newark.com/NewarkWebCommerce/newark/en_US/endecaSearch/
partDetail.jsp?SKU=09B8085&N=0
As far a connecting the board to the computer. With the unit on and
the programing software running, I recall getting some "BSsomething
detected message"
when I had the computer search Com 1. Photos of the boards and a
picture of a home brewed connection cable are @;
http://www.europaowners.org/album36
Chat Later,
Steved.
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| Subject: | Re: Through the firewall |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Mike, It has worked well for me having fuel pumps, a fuel pressure sensor
and a mini gascolator with drain plug venting down thru an access hatch,
(this being the lowest point of fuel system on a mono), all under the
starboard baggage bay. The fuel pipes run forward as per Europa instructions
thru the wheel well and have been fine.
My battery (and several others' batteries) have worked very
conveniently mounted firewall forward above pax footwell - and this is with
914 & wobbly prop, (admittedly a Kremen/Woodcomp, which are as light as they
get). I would certainly recommend putting it there until proved otherwise,
and even if you need to fix the odd pound of lead to the stern post to give
your optimum C of G posn.You save a fair amount of weight through only
having short heavy duty cable runs and very simple fixing arrangements, and
it is convenient for working on anything in the engine compartment.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Through the firewall
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
>
> To those that have done it from those that are trying to do it.
> Is there another place to mount the fuel pump to avoid feeding pipework
back to the baggage bay then forward again?
> How have people routed the fuel pipe from the pump to the engine ?
> Manual says run the pipe under the brake cylinder forward but this would
put it too close to the wheel and the flap tube.
> Why should we mount the battery in the stb compartment of the baggage bay
and then route the cables up the port side to the panel?
> How are you running the battery cables forward?
> How do we get the fuel pipes and the cables through the firewall?
> Help.
> Mike Gamble
> XS 440
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Jeff,
If you need any Rotax supplies, I recommend Lockwood Aviation.
http://www.lockwood-aviation.com/las.php They have always been most helpful.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
<<<<<<
Time: 02:05:46 PM PST US From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Help with oil hose
I'm having trouble finding the "conti" oil tube called for in the engine
manual. Apparantly Rotax no longer ships the hose with the engines.
Anyone have a source, part number or specs on this hose? All help
appreciated...
-- Jeff A055 Trying to finish the engine installation... Waiting on a prop
>>>>>>>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Trailer Wing Support |
--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
Jim Butcher wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
>Does anyone have a decent photo of the factory trailer showing the wing support
at the spar end? I'm trying to determine if the spar pin hole is used to keep
the wing from sliding forward and backwards as the trailer speeds up and slows
down. Or any suggestions on how others have addressed this situation?
>
>Thanks
>
>Jim Butcher A185
>
>
>
>
Jim,
Just noticed this old email, which I had intended to address. I'm in
the process of building a tri-gear trailer and will send you some pics
when it is done. The spar-end support will have a captive socket, using
the spar pin hole to lock the wing into place. My trailer is a bit
larger than those sold by Europa, but the size will allow room for extra
clearance of parts and the extra weight will provide for a smoother
ride. The complete rig will cost under $800. to build. More later...
--
Jeff - A055
Almost there...
--
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| Subject: | Re: Help with oil hose |
--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
Jim Butcher wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
>Jeff,
>
>There was no Conti hose in our FWF either. We used braided teflon lined
>hose for the run from the bottom of the engine to the oil tank, past the
>exhaust. Purchased it from McMaster p/n 52515K29. Also covered it with
>Thermo Sleeve, identical to the cover on the water hoses from Rotax. Get
>Thermo Sleeve from Summit Racing www.summitracing.com. P/n THE-14010 and
>THE-14015 little stuff for oil hoses, larger stuff for water hoses.
>
>Jim & Heather A185
>
>
>
>
Jim,
Thanks for the great information. Products ordered and on the way...
--
Rocketman - RM Holsters: http://www.rmholsters.com
FAL Gal Concealment Goods: http://www.falgal.com
Ballistic Review: http://www.ballisticreview.com
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
EZ Trim fans
I built my unit from the board Steve D had made. It was fun and easy to do.
I am flying with the first release of code. There was quite a learning
curve to get it adjusted so it flies my Europa. I have it working nicely
now.
The two adjustments control duration of servo motor run time and the delay
between motor runs. The code makes the motor run in the adjusting direction
then delays and then runes the motor again in the opposite direction half a
much. ( at least that is how I figure it is working )
I am happy with the sensitivity of the unit. It responds very quickly. I
have not used it a great deal as yet though.
Just my thought !
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com>
Subject: Europa-List: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
>
> Hi!
>
> Whilst waiting to lose weight for Mod 70 I decided to do something
> constructive.....well maybe!
>
> I=B9ve assembled the EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold Module that was talked over a
> couple of years ago and after classic errors in polarity of capacitors and
> diodes have a Unit that no longer self destructs. It=B9s now time to
> upload
> the Basic programme but I have Comm errors.
>
> I=B9ve connected the programming port to BS2 pins 1 to 4 via D9 socket.
>
> Some questions:
>
> Should I get any indication on Unit that it is really alive? (Volts all
> present)
>
> Any peculiarities regarding the Programme Port handshaking?
>
> Is anyone using the Unit and is it worth the trouble in a Europa?
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Gerry
>
> Europa 384 G-FIZY
> Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
> Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
> PSS AoA Fitted.
>
> http://www.g-fizy.com
> Mobile: +44 7808 402404
> WebFax: +44 870 7059985
> gnholland@onetel.com
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Mike
YES YES YES YES
I will be at Arlington again this year. We will again orginise a dinnner
for all interested in Europa. It will be done differently though. Bob is not
going to host it and I do not have a project to have every one come see, so
I am not sure how we will work it. Some thing will work out. Stay tuned for
the details.
Every one, do plan on coming to the fly-in !! Arlington is the
"friendlyest" !!!!! http://www.nweaa.org/
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: <DuaneFamly@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Top On!
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
>
> Cliff,
>
> I just looked at the top panel for the wing and realized what they are
> going
> for with the foam core. Now I understand the concept.
>
> As a side note, are you going to be at Arlington this year? My wife and I
> are doing a loop trip up through Oregon, Washington, Canada, Idaho,
> Montana,
> Utah, Nevada, and back to Calif. So we decided (I decided, she'll come
> along) to
> stay at Arlington for the whole show. I hope to see a few Europas while
> there.
>
> Mike Duane A207
> Redding, California
> XS Conventional Gear
> Top On! Now going forward by working in the aft portion of the fuselage.
> I am so glad I built that shelf behind the BB bulkhead.
>
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
> EZ Trim fans
Thanks Cliff for your report.
I'll persevere.
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: rudder stops |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "karelvranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
Dear Raimo,
If you move the rudder an equal 30 out of the center line to both sides,
than you have a bigger surface exposed to the airstream at the starboard
side. Interesting to calculate and more than that is to consider what effect
the slipstream and torque of the propeller have in this matter!
Some thoughts for long winterevenings I think.
Best greetings,
Karel Vranken # 447 F-PKRL waiting to execute mod 70.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder stops
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>
> Hi All!
>
> I have got plenty of great answers
> from almost all the continents - I
> thank all of you. Also, now I know
> there must be Europas flying equipped
> with all sorts of different rudder travels
>
> I noticed about 50% think rudder travel
> should be measured from the centerline
> and rest of the Europa-people think it
> should measured via line from the hinge-line
> to the trailing edge.
>
> Some people think it is good when "enough".
>
> I think the rudder movement should be
> symmetrical for aircraft centerline and that is
> why it is better to imagine the hinge-line is
> in center.
>
> This is an interesting dilemma.
> Please some public conversation more!
> Neville - tell us the truth!
>
> Many thanks for all of you,
> Raimo
>
> Raimo M W Toivio
>
> OH-XRT #417
> OH-CVK
> OH-BLL
>
> 37500 Lempaala
> Finland
> tel + 358 3 3753 777
> fax + 358 3 3753 100
> gsm + 358 40 590 1450
>
> raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
> www.rwm.fi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "N55XS" <topglock@cox.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder stops
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
> >
> > Raimo,
> > I don't know about perfect, but here's what I did. I took a 2x4 and
> > stapled a piece of cardboard to it, then drew a line down the center.
> > Using a protractor, I drew lines, each side, tangent to the center line,
> > at 30 and 32 degrees. I then positioned the 2x4 under the aft end of
> > the fuse, arranging the gizmo so that the board ran the center line of
> > the fuse and the line intersections at the rudder hinge area. Swung the
> > rudder each way and added the stops. Pretty simple, in application...
> >
> > --
> > Jeff - A055
> > Finishing engine installation
> > Waiting on a prop
> > Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
Mike,
While you're in Oregon please stop and visit . I'm based at Lenhardt's 7S9,
a great little airstrip to visit. I live in Silverton just south about 10
mi. If we're around we have a guest bed in the basement and would love to
have you stay for a night and home cooked meal. I and my son will as usual
be going up to Arlington for the Fly-in.
craig ellison
A205
----- Original Message -----
From: <DuaneFamly@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Top On!
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
>
> Cliff,
>
> I just looked at the top panel for the wing and realized what they are
> going
> for with the foam core. Now I understand the concept.
>
> As a side note, are you going to be at Arlington this year? My wife and I
> are doing a loop trip up through Oregon, Washington, Canada, Idaho,
> Montana,
> Utah, Nevada, and back to Calif. So we decided (I decided, she'll come
> along) to
> stay at Arlington for the whole show. I hope to see a few Europas while
> there.
>
> Mike Duane A207
> Redding, California
> XS Conventional Gear
> Top On! Now going forward by working in the aft portion of the fuselage.
> I am so glad I built that shelf behind the BB bulkhead.
>
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
All,
Anyone out there using Bob Nuckolls Z-16 Rotax 914 wiring scheme?
I am using diagram Z-16 with OV unit supplied by B&C Specialty products. My
question is this: when wiring in the ammeter , where in this scheme would
you place it. The directions with the UMA unit say to place the shunt
between the voltage reg and the + side of the battery.
Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
craig ellison
a205
working on FWF
----- Original Message -----
From: "davebuzz" <davebuzz@aol.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 70 Club view
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "davebuzz" <davebuzz@aol.com>
>
> Some of you may be interested in the Club's view of Mod70. You can find
> this
> at:
>
> http://www.europaclub.org.uk/ in the 'News' pages.
>
> I realise it may not be what you wanted to hear, but in view of the seven
> complaints I received, plus a small number relayed through the Committee
> and
> noted on the list, we have certainly put some time into it, and I believe
> the Mod does the job in replacing what it does.
>
> It has been interesting to note a couple of comments on the list in
> favour
> of the Mod, and for us UK owners, I think we are lucky not to be in the
> position of those Shadow Microlight owners, who were grounded for months
> due
> to undercarriage problems and no one to support them. At least we have a
> Factory to support our plane.
>
> If anyone wishes to pursue this further, and perhaps requires a PFA mod
> number for the fitting of turnbuckles, then you can use mine:
> <<
> G-BXUM, kit67, PFA 247-12611, 'Additional cable Turnbuckles', Mod: M10028,
> dated April 1997: Turnbuckles in both TP18 cables, Bolted at the front
> onto
> the lugs with castle nuts and split pins.
>>>
> If this is you configuration then feel free to use it as a reference.
>
> All the best,
> dave
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matthew Carpenter <europaxs@gmail.com>
Hello all,
I already have a nice AutoPilot installed, but does not support Altitude
Hold (well it can for an extra 1000.00$).
If I build one of these EZ trim, would I need to install a new servo? I
have a trim servo and its LEDs, and switch all working
great. Can the EZ trim also use the same servo? And use the already
built in switch as a manual override?
Thanks,
Matt Carpenter
A138
Amarillo Texas
N138WJ
Gerry Holland wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
>
>
>
>>EZ Trim fans
>>
>>
>
>Thanks Cliff for your report.
>
>I'll persevere.
>
>Regards
>
>Gerry
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ammeter wiring |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Craig
You want to read the current that your systems are using. It will go in
series in the line the supplies the main bus.
I just looked a Z-16, it shows the shunt in the line supplying the Bus after
the crowbar / OV device.
Good luck.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
Subject: Europa-List: ammeter wiring
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison"
> <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
>
> All,
> Anyone out there using Bob Nuckolls Z-16 Rotax 914 wiring scheme?
> I am using diagram Z-16 with OV unit supplied by B&C Specialty products.
> My
> question is this: when wiring in the ammeter , where in this scheme would
> you place it. The directions with the UMA unit say to place the shunt
> between the voltage reg and the + side of the battery.
>
> Thanks in advance for any and all responses.
>
> craig ellison
> a205
> working on FWF
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "davebuzz" <davebuzz@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Mod 70 Club view
>
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "davebuzz" <davebuzz@aol.com>
>>
>> Some of you may be interested in the Club's view of Mod70. You can find
>> this
>> at:
>>
>> http://www.europaclub.org.uk/ in the 'News' pages.
>>
>> I realise it may not be what you wanted to hear, but in view of the
>> seven
>> complaints I received, plus a small number relayed through the Committee
>> and
>> noted on the list, we have certainly put some time into it, and I believe
>> the Mod does the job in replacing what it does.
>>
>> It has been interesting to note a couple of comments on the list in
>> favour
>> of the Mod, and for us UK owners, I think we are lucky not to be in the
>> position of those Shadow Microlight owners, who were grounded for months
>> due
>> to undercarriage problems and no one to support them. At least we have a
>> Factory to support our plane.
>>
>> If anyone wishes to pursue this further, and perhaps requires a PFA mod
>> number for the fitting of turnbuckles, then you can use mine:
>> <<
>> G-BXUM, kit67, PFA 247-12611, 'Additional cable Turnbuckles', Mod:
>> M10028,
>> dated April 1997: Turnbuckles in both TP18 cables, Bolted at the front
>> onto
>> the lugs with castle nuts and split pins.
>>>>
>> If this is you configuration then feel free to use it as a reference.
>>
>> All the best,
>> dave
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Matt
Yes
That is how it works. That is one of the things that made me decide to use
it. I did not have to add another device to the elevator system.
I have a relay board so the control stick and the EZ Trim operate the relays
and the relays run the motor in the servo. This is required if you install
the EZ Trim . It's output is made to energies relays.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
( I should be doing something rather than sitting her righting Email)
> Hello all,
>
> I already have a nice AutoPilot installed, but does not support Altitude
> Hold (well it can for an extra 1000.00$).
> If I build one of these EZ trim, would I need to install a new servo? I
> have a trim servo and its LEDs, and switch all working
> great. Can the EZ trim also use the same servo? And use the already
> built in switch as a manual override?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt Carpenter
> A138
> Amarillo Texas
> N138WJ
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