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Thu 05/12/05


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 12:40 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Gerry Holland)
     2. 12:58 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (ivor.phillips)
     3. 02:50 AM - Re: Top On! (Peter Grant)
     4. 06:16 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (rlborger)
     5. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold ()
     6. 09:09 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (EuropaForum)
     7. 09:18 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold (Gerry Holland)
     8. 10:14 AM - Re: pin holes (Paul Stewart)
     9. 01:32 PM - EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB (Peter Rees)
    10. 07:26 PM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB (Matthew Carpenter)
    11. 07:50 PM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB (JR (Bob) Gowing)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Mike Hi! I'll email you a Zip file with all the stuff you need including Files for PCB separate from this list. > So how does one get a hold of an EZ Trim kit? Or schematic? Regards Gerry


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    Time: 12:58:27 AM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> This web page give's a good deal of information about the EZ trim, http://www.cas-cozy.nl/efis/EZTrim.html Ivor Phillips Subject: Re: Europa-List: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold > --> Europa-List message posted by: Matthew Carpenter <europaxs@gmail.com> > > Hello all, > > I already have a nice AutoPilot installed, but does not support Altitude > Hold (well it can for an extra 1000.00$). > If I build one of these EZ trim, would I need to install a new servo? I > have a trim servo and its LEDs, and switch all working > great. Can the EZ trim also use the same servo? And use the already > built in switch as a manual override? > > Thanks, > > Matt Carpenter > A138 > Amarillo Texas > N138WJ > > > Gerry Holland wrote: > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> >> >> >> >>>EZ Trim fans >>> >>> >> >>Thanks Cliff for your report. >> >>I'll persevere. >> >>Regards >> >>Gerry >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 02:50:49 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
    Subject: Top On!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk> It was also featured as a warning in the last EF! Regards Peter Grant 10 The Sidings, Horncastle, Lincs LN9 5UA, UK Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This email is intended for the sole use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. I can accept no liability for misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically scanned by Norton Anti-Virus -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Top On! --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2005-05-09 19:59 -0400 DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote: >got the top on successfully. >Now I come home, start going through the 300+ Europa Forum emails and see >this Mod 70 thing pop up! Might I suggest to the powers that be, that if >something like this is in the pipeline, maybe put out an advisory >about the nature >of the problem while you are still working on it so that people can adjust >their schedule, or not, with this in mind. Mike - I don't think I have any powers, but I did make a posting about this some time ago: At 2004-12-17 12:00 +0000 Rowland Carson wrote: >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:00:07 +0000 >To: Europa e-mail list <europa-list@matronics.com> >From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> >Subject: Europa-List: fitting the fuselage top > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> > >I've just received the latest copy of the CAA Safety Investigation >and Data Department Occurence Listing, which reports the failure of a >Europa mass balance arm rod end during taxi. > >This could have spoiled someone's whole day if it had occurred during flight. > >I expect there will be some sort of fix recommended (or even >mandated) for this. > >I note some folk recently asking questions like "what should I do >before sticking the top on?". If you can afford to wait until >whatever fix is announced before you bond the fuselage top on, you >might save yourself a lot of uncomfortable wriggling later. > >regards > >Rowland >-- > >| Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/> >| 740 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net> There were several follow-up messages from various people. Sorry if you didn't notice this at the time. regards Rowland PS yes, the signature lines are correct - I have only managed 10 hours building since then :-( -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/> | 750 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>


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    Time: 06:16:45 AM PST US
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
    --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> Gerry, Would you please post that .zip file on the Europa Owners site ( http://www.europaowners.org/ ) so it is available to all?? Thanks! Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (80%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Preparing ROTAX 914 for installation. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117


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    Time: 06:45:48 AM PST US
    From: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> there is a group of guys who are based in the netherlands (I think) who will sell you a ready built unit (about 400 Euros), a kit for about 300 euros or the board for about 70 euros. http://www.cas-cozy.nl/efis/EZTrim.html Looks like they've done some worthwhile work to the design to combine the electronics and relays into one unit and made some code changes. The board sounds quite expensive compared to what I'm used to paying for PCBs but they have to make a few bucks to cover the work they've put in. I'd go for the bare board and solder the bits on - nothing too tricky there - just pick up the Farnell catalogue. Peter > > From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > Date: 2005/05/12 Thu AM 07:38:47 GMT > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > > Mike Hi! > > I'll email you a Zip file with all the stuff you need including Files for > PCB separate from this list. > > > So how does one get a hold of an EZ Trim kit? Or schematic? > > Regards > > Gerry > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information


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    Time: 09:09:30 AM PST US
    From: EuropaForum <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
    --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaForum <Post2Forum@comcast.net> The Links to the two Ez-Trim sites are on the EuropaOwners Links page: http://www.europaowners.org/links.php under vendors. I've add links that I found of interest over the years. If you have any links you would like to add, just click add link and fill in the boxes. The link will appear after I approve it, for reasons of spam control. Ordering the boards was easy. The lower the number the more they cost each. I think I ordered 20 and sold on the list at cost, They all were sold in an hour so if anyone is thinking of making an order they go fast. I looked at the design at http://www.cas-cozy.nl/efis/EZTrim.html I didn't like it and thought it was to expensive also. Someone on the list said they were no longer available, so It's a mute point anyway. I've add the Ez-trim Zip download file to EuropaOwners. http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=6023#6023 it is also available on the Ez-trim page http://hometown.aol.com/ccady/eztrim.htm Having the files on the Owners page is just incase the Ez-trim home page goes away. Chat later, Steved


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    Time: 09:18:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > there is a group of guys who are based in the netherlands (I think) who will > sell you a ready built unit (about 400 Euros), a kit for about 300 euros or > the board for about 70 euros. > > http://www.cas-cozy.nl/efis/EZTrim.html Not any more! Still some useful information on the site though. Regards Gerry


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    Time: 10:14:11 AM PST US
    From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
    Subject: Re: pin holes
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Thanks to all who replied - many useful tips - even knowing there have been others is helpful. Regards Paul G-GIDY


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    Time: 01:32:42 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> If enough people are interested in the EZ-Trim (and if I'm not treading on anyones toes), I would be happy to approach some of the board suppliers I use at work to get some boards made (the ones you can make at home really aren't of a standard you should use on an aircraft. I might at a push even assemble a couple of units for those who are 'electronically challenged' If anyone is interested, drop me an E-mail - I guess we would need to order a minimum of 6 boards but the more we can order, the cheaper they'll be. Peter


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    Time: 07:26:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB
    From: Matthew Carpenter <europaxs@gmail.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Matthew Carpenter <europaxs@gmail.com> You can count me in. Then all I need is a "for sure" list of parts to order. I read several different part lists. Matt Carpenter Peter Rees wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> > >If enough people are interested in the EZ-Trim (and if I'm not treading on >anyones toes), I would be happy to approach some of the board suppliers I >use at work to get some boards made (the ones you can make at home really >aren't of a standard you should use on an aircraft. > >I might at a push even assemble a couple of units for those who are >'electronically challenged' > >If anyone is interested, drop me an E-mail - I guess we would need to order >a minimum of 6 boards but the more we can order, the cheaper they'll be. > >Peter > > > >


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    Time: 07:50:18 PM PST US
    From: "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
    Subject: Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au> Dear Peter I have only just picked up on this possibility and the idea seems fantastic. After flying gliders I am going to find it tedious to hold altitudes in power flying and, like the EIS's available we ought to be able to automate holding altitude. I am certainly interested in the idea but have not done electronic work myself. Approximately how much are boards likely to cost? J R (Bob) Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Australia and want to fit MOd 70 before bonding top on ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> Subject: Europa-List: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> > > If enough people are interested in the EZ-Trim (and if I'm not treading on > anyones toes), I would be happy to approach some of the board suppliers I > use at work to get some boards made (the ones you can make at home really > aren't of a standard you should use on an aircraft. > > I might at a push even assemble a couple of units for those who are > 'electronically challenged' > > If anyone is interested, drop me an E-mail - I guess we would need to order > a minimum of 6 boards but the more we can order, the cheaper they'll be. > > Peter > >




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