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1. 12:23 AM - DOTH - Saturday 14th May (William Mills)
2. 12:47 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB (Gerry Holland)
3. 01:11 AM - Re: CORRECTION - DOTH - Sunday 15th May (William Mills)
4. 02:05 AM - Re: DOTH - Saturday 14th May (Duncan McFadyean)
5. 04:05 AM - Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB (Jos Okhuijsen)
6. 04:21 AM - Fw: G CCUL Temps and Fuel (Tony Bale)
7. 05:11 AM - Re: Re: CORRECTION - DOTH - Sunday 15th May (Alan Burrows)
8. 08:52 AM - tri gear trailers (Steven Pitt)
9. 09:52 AM - Europa-Trim (SteveD)
10. 10:28 AM - Re: Fw: G CCUL Temps and Fuel (Timothy.P.Ward)
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| Subject: | DOTH - Saturday 14th May |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Weatherwise, the South and Southwest looks poor, so I suggest for those DOTHers
interested, we could meet at Caernarfon for lunch at about 12.00 for 12.30.
No free landing, but it is a good venue.
Best wishes,
William
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Jos Hi!
> Ok, let me have it <grin>
NO! you'll have to put up with peaceful coexistence!
Your comments......all valid and taken notice of.
The interesting thing is that already amendments and modifications are being
produced for the device based on a small amount of operational use.
I tend to agree that the TRIM Motor is a dubious component in the system
especially if demand is made of it by frequently by EZ-TRIM adjustments.
At the time it was devised I think that only S-Tec had any sort of pitch
control that was affordable. Hence a privateer design to help Home built
activities.
It can be disabled easily if a nuisance and I've wired mine via DP PL/SK
arrangement so in fact it could be scrapped if not useful at all. My only
other fitment was the Matronics Governor unit that allows singular TRIM
selections from multiple switch sources and also has provision to adjust
TRIM speed. It could be that this will further complicate the EZ-TRIM setup
but it also may have the benefit of allow more accurate manual trim settings
to hold pitch attitude if EZ-TRIM abandoned. The standard pitch adjustment
speed is a little on the excessive side at faster speeds, especially in
cruise.
I'll watch this debate move forward and await with interest as to where it
will go.
The challenge of making it and getting it going is fun enough for me and it
may well end up as many of my other diversions whilst building the Europa...
extend the build time, deplete the bank account and bring a smile to those
others that are wiser or have been down that same road!!
Kind Regards
Gerry
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"William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
| Subject: | Re: CORRECTION - DOTH - Sunday 15th May |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Sorry, there has been a misunderstanding. The proposal is for Sunday 15th May
- weather is likely to be better tomorrow. However, I will try to make it to
Beccles (free landing) today, (Saturday) if anyone is interested, otherwise see
you all tomorrow!
Best wishes,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: William Mills
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: DOTH - Saturday 14th May
Weatherwise, the South and Southwest looks poor, so I suggest for those DOTHers
interested, we could meet at Caernarfon for lunch at about 12.00 for 12.30.
No free landing, but it is a good venue.
Best wishes,
William
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH - Saturday 14th May |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Meaning tomorrow, Sunday 15th, when the wx should be more suited.
D.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH - Saturday 14th May
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
<combined.merchants@virgin.net>
>
> Weatherwise, the South and Southwest looks poor, so I suggest for those
DOTHers interested, we could meet at Caernarfon for lunch at about 12.00 for
12.30. No free landing, but it is a good venue.
> Best wishes,
> William
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EZ-TRIM Altitude Hold PCB |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
> The challenge of making it and getting it going is fun enough for me and
> it > may well end up as many of my other diversions whilst building the
> Europa...> extend the build time, deplete the bank account and bring a
> smile to those> others that are wiser or have been down that same road!!
That's the right attitude i guess. I would be willing to be actively
involved in a further development. I am quite experienced with a soldering
iron, and can do some programming and systems design as well. Can't do cb
design. Can't do anything mechanic.
First there should be a wish list. To start with that one:<devious grin>
There should be a health check at switch on for all critical components.
The output should be controlled by a second control loop including a
g-force sensor.
The output should be controlled by a third control loop including an
attitude sensor.
The system should contain a proper servo motor.
The servo motor should contain a control stick sensor, so that it will
free itself on manual override.
The servo motor should contain a sensor to determine trim errors, the
system should advise or be able to drive trim corrections.
As a possible addon i would like an airspeed sensor, and the system be
able to limit corrections on prededermined max and min airspeeds.
Who is willing to organize a development team?
Greetz,
Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | Fw: G CCUL Temps and Fuel |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
Fellow Europe types greetings,
We have at long last received our permit
and managed to get some flying in on UL, pretty impressed too !! Couple
of points some of you might be able to shed some light on if you please.
Firstly having thoroughly warmed the aircraft to 100 deg C both oil and water,
within minutes of take off both are back around 50 - 60 at 5000 RPM, any lower
revs and the guages hardly register, is this as others experience ? We are begining
to consider plans to restrict the air outlets from the radiators. The ambient
at ground level has been circa 11 - 13 deg C during these flights at between
2 - 3000 feet.
Secondly, considering fuel. Currently we simply use the cheap unleaded from Tesco's,
in my previous life racing cars we always mixed the unleaded with higher
grades and octanes, what do you guys run and have you noticed any improvements
in performance / economy / condition of oil following change / plugs etc ?
Any thoughts / experiences greatly received
Regards
Tony.
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| Subject: | Re: CORRECTION - DOTH - Sunday 15th May |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Ahh a fly out at last...count me in, hope the food is good.
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Mills
Subject: Europa-List: Re: CORRECTION - DOTH - Sunday 15th May
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
--> <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Sorry, there has been a misunderstanding. The proposal is for Sunday
15th May - weather is likely to be better tomorrow. However, I will try
to make it to Beccles (free landing) today, (Saturday) if anyone is
interested, otherwise see you all tomorrow! Best wishes, William
----- Original Message -----
From: William Mills
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:04 AM
Subject: DOTH - Saturday 14th May
Weatherwise, the South and Southwest looks poor, so I suggest for
those DOTHers interested, we could meet at Caernarfon for lunch at about
12.00 for 12.30. No free landing, but it is a good venue.
Best wishes,
William
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| Subject: | tri gear trailers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
Does any one have photos/descriptions of how they tie down their trigear on its
closed/open trailer for travelling?
I have been wracking my brain to come up with a solution but I may be thinking
too hard and in the wrong direction.
I have looked in the archives but have drawn a blank.
Thanks in anticipation.
Steve Pitt #403
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Hello All,
I've created an area on EuropaOwners call Europa-Trim:
http://www.europaowners.org/viewforum.php?f=30
It's a place where we can keep all the ideas and development of an Europa-Trim
in one place. It can have a sign up section to keep track of who wants one. A
code writing section etc.
Peter register on EuropaOwners.org and I'll give you moderator rights.
Paul Mcallister, Josok, and I are moderators.
Paul I made you a moderator because you may have some code to contribute and we
want to control revs of code.
I you want to use the forum, I'll write a summery of milestones and post them on
the list as progress is made.
If you want to keep the traffic on the list, or there is little interest I'll delete
the Forum.
Steved.
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Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: G CCUL Temps and Fuel |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Timothy.P.Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
Tony,
You should run the oil temp between 90 -110 at 5000 rpm according to the book.
You may have an indication problem? On my monowheel (classic cowls) in summer
I have no problem in achieving this but in winter I have to put some aluminum
tape over the oil cooler to obtain 90-110 temps. My oil cooler is situated under
the spinner and not piggy backing behind the water radiator, due to having
a Rotax 912S.
50 - 60 oil temp is too low.
I run on 96 oct mogas from Mobil.
Cheers,
Tim
>
> From: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
> Date: 2005/05/14 Sat PM 10:37:26 GMT+12:00
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Fw: G CCUL Temps and Fuel
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
>
> Fellow Europe types greetings,
> We have at long last received our
permit and managed to get some flying in on UL, pretty impressed too !! Couple
of points some of you might be able to shed some light on if you please.
>
> Firstly having thoroughly warmed the aircraft to 100 deg C both oil and water,
within minutes of take off both are back around 50 - 60 at 5000 RPM, any lower
revs and the guages hardly register, is this as others experience ? We are
begining to consider plans to restrict the air outlets from the radiators. The
ambient at ground level has been circa 11 - 13 deg C during these flights at
between 2 - 3000 feet.
>
> Secondly, considering fuel. Currently we simply use the cheap unleaded from Tesco's,
in my previous life racing cars we always mixed the unleaded with higher
grades and octanes, what do you guys run and have you noticed any improvements
in performance / economy / condition of oil following change / plugs etc ?
>
> Any thoughts / experiences greatly received
>
> Regards
>
> Tony.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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