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1. 02:12 AM - electrical stuff (paul atkinson)
2. 02:37 AM - elecrical stuff (paul atkinson)
3. 06:16 AM - Mod. 70 (Roger Anderson)
4. 07:13 AM - Re: electrical stuff (Cliff Shaw)
5. 09:42 AM - Re: Mod. 70 (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com)
6. 10:14 AM - Inspired day out! (Gerry Holland)
7. 02:26 PM - Re: Mod. 70 (KARL HEINDL)
8. 08:43 PM - 22000 Capacitor (N55XS)
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| Subject: | electrical stuff |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul atkinson" <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk>
Hello all
I am about to wire up my mags to switches in the panel. The Rotax 912s
manual suggests using .75mm sq wiring for these. 18 awg is 0.9mm sq and
20awg is 0.5mmsq. Bob K suggests 20awg in his z16 wiring diagram. I can't
find any info about current requirements for this wiring. Is 20 awg what
everyone uses, or should I go for 18awg?
Is anyone out there using a RMI uMonitor with a 912s. If so, how have you
dealt with oil temp sensing. I get the impression that the rotax supplied
sensor is incompatible with the monitor and that I should replace it with
the homebuilt sensor supplied with the monitor. If that is the case how do
I remove the rotax sensor? It doesn't look straightfoward to me and I'd
rather not risk damaging my still pristine engine. :-(
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Paul Atkinson
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul atkinson" <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk>
Hello again
Before I anyone wastes any of their valuable time trying to answer the
second question in my previous email oi tink oi ave found the answer.... a
12mm spanner. I was looking at something completely different:-((
Regards
Paul Atkinson
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson" <randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
For those of us who don't achieve the required angles up and down on the tailplane
on the first fitting, I have found that one full turn of the adjuster
varies the tailplane angle by about one degree. I hope that this may useful information
for others.
At the moment the mass balance weights on my aircraft contact the port guide
strip. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get them centred without
removing, bending and replacing the installation on a trial and error basis.
Needless to say I did remove the restraining cables in accordance with the directions
in the mod. Removal and installation is a pig of a job, and not one that
I want to have to keep doing.
Roger (G-BXTD)
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| Subject: | Re: electrical stuff |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Paul
The electrical current is "nil" on the Mag kill switches. There function on
the Rotax is the same as on other aircraft engines, they short out the
ignition so it will not make a spark at the plugs. The wire size is more
important from a mechanical standpoint. I have had the connection brake
twice at the engine end because of vibration. I did use shielded # 20 wire.
Your choice !
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: "paul atkinson" <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: electrical stuff
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul atkinson"
> <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk>
>
> Hello all
>
> I am about to wire up my mags to switches in the panel. The Rotax 912s
> manual suggests using .75mm sq wiring for these. 18 awg is 0.9mm sq and
> 20awg is 0.5mmsq. Bob K suggests 20awg in his z16 wiring diagram. I can't
> find any info about current requirements for this wiring. Is 20 awg what
> everyone uses, or should I go for 18awg?
>
> Is anyone out there using a RMI uMonitor with a 912s. If so, how have you
> dealt with oil temp sensing. I get the impression that the rotax supplied
> sensor is incompatible with the monitor and that I should replace it with
> the homebuilt sensor supplied with the monitor. If that is the case how do
> I remove the rotax sensor? It doesn't look straightfoward to me and I'd
> rather not risk damaging my still pristine engine. :-(
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
>
> Paul Atkinson
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
In a message dated 15/05/05 14:18:44 GMT Standard Time,
randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk writes:
> At the moment the mass balance weights on my aircraft contact the port
> guide strip. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get them centred
> without removing, bending and replacing the installation on a trial and error
> basis.
I installed Mod 70 last Thursday, but left the cables attached to the TP10s
just in case they might still be needed (I have turnbuckles). The installation
was a fairly easy job as I don't have the top on yet. However, I have the same
problem as you in that the mass balance weights contact the port guide strip.
Very little pressure is needed to get the weights centred, so I certainly
have no intention of removing, bending and replacing the installation on a trial
and error basis.
I had a very brief word with Andy Draper about this on Friday (he was with a
customer, so there was no time to go into details). Andy said I was not the
only one with this problem and that he was going to discuss it with Francis
Donaldson. He asked me to call back sometime next week.
John Heykoop
XS mono G-JHKP, kit #536.
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| Subject: | Inspired day out! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Just like to thanks William for choosing today for Drop of a Hat Fly-in to
Caernarfon, North Wales in the shadow of Mount Snowdon..
The weather was marvellous with all the Mountains as a back drop. At least 8
Europa=B9s turned out including Alan Burrows from Isle of Man.
The last we saw of Alan was making his way to his aircraft with Special
Branch!!
Thanks William!
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
http://www.g-fizy.com
Mobile: +44 7808 402404
WebFax: +44 870 7059985
gnholland@onetel.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
I am in no hurry at all to install this mod 70 thing. I wouldn't be
surprised if there will be another mod to the mod. And all because someone
made a few borderline crash landings, and then the PFA got involved. The
same Francis Donaldson passed all these components before Europa went into
production. The installation is easy for new builders, but I would probably
do more harm than good
rummaging around in the back of the fuselage. My balance arm is very well
behaved and doesn't clonk against the stops, even on bumpy surfaces
Karl no 392 C-FIRS trigear
>From: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod. 70
>Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 12:41:25 EDT
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 15/05/05 14:18:44 GMT Standard Time,
>randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk writes:
>
> > At the moment the mass balance weights on my aircraft contact the port
> > guide strip. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get them
>centred
> > without removing, bending and replacing the installation on a trial and
>error
> > basis.
>
>I installed Mod 70 last Thursday, but left the cables attached to the TP10s
>just in case they might still be needed (I have turnbuckles). The
>installation
>was a fairly easy job as I don't have the top on yet. However, I have the
>same
>problem as you in that the mass balance weights contact the port guide
>strip.
>Very little pressure is needed to get the weights centred, so I certainly
>have no intention of removing, bending and replacing the installation on a
>trial
>and error basis.
>
>I had a very brief word with Andy Draper about this on Friday (he was with
>a
>customer, so there was no time to go into details). Andy said I was not the
>only one with this problem and that he was going to discuss it with Francis
>Donaldson. He asked me to call back sometime next week.
>
>John Heykoop
>XS mono G-JHKP, kit #536.
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
When it comes to electronics, I'm lost. Does anyone have a source/part
number, etc. for that little capacitor that hooks up to the rectifier?
Sorry to sound like an idiot, but none of the local shops seem to know
what I'm asking for...
Thanks in advance...
--
Jeff - A055
Almost there...
Builders Log: http://www.N55XS.com
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