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Wed 05/18/05


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 12:40 AM - Aileron Trim Motor (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     2. 03:11 AM - Re: DOTH Wed 18th Panshanger (Alan Burrows)
     3. 03:23 AM - Re: Aileron Trim Motor (SteveD)
     4. 10:07 AM - Capacitors (N55XS)
     5. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Aileron Trim Motor (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     6. 11:07 AM - Monowheel brakes (mau11)
     7. 12:42 PM - Re: [Fw: Supurb dolly for sale] (Kim Bull)
     8. 12:54 PM - Re: Monowheel brakes (NevEyre@aol.com)
     9. 01:42 PM - Re: Capacitors (Fred Fillinger)
    10. 01:57 PM - Funny fuel gauge (Sven den Boer)
    11. 02:07 PM - Re: Capacitors (rlborger)
    12. 02:15 PM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (Peter Rees)
    13. 02:29 PM - Re: Capacitors (Peter Rees)
    14. 02:53 PM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (Jeremy Davey)
    15. 02:57 PM - Re: Capacitors (N55XS)
    16. 03:13 PM - Araldite 420 in the USA? (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
    17. 04:30 PM - Re: Araldite 420 in the USA? (Rob Housman)
    18. 04:36 PM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (Dean Seitz)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:36 AM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Aileron Trim Motor
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good day All, Wanted to make sure my placement is right before I cut the skin dig and out the blue foam to set the motor for the aileron trim. Just for level flight when no passengers. The Forum archive has a lot of discussion but couldn't find placement info. And Bob Jacobson's website isn't up any longer. Starboard aileron, MAC servo unit, between weights but closer inboard, 2" X 8" tab extending up, 18 gauge wire, with power cutoff switch on the panel. Kind feedback gratefully accepted. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Top On! Now going forward by working in the aft portion of the fuselage. I am so glad I built that shelf behind the BB bulkhead.


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    Time: 03:11:22 AM PST US
    From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
    Subject: DOTH Wed 18th Panshanger
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> Sorry Paddy I cant make it due to the dreaded "work" commitments..! Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Wed 18th Panshanger --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke --> <paddyclarke@lineone.net> Hi All, I know it's a bit soon after the great day out on Sunday, but the weather looks good for tomorrow so does anyone fancy a trip to Panshanger?. Voucher in Pilot. Cheers Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM


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    Time: 03:23:14 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Aileron Trim Motor
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Mike, Go to www.europaowners.org/gallery type "Aileron Trim" in the search box I think you get three builders install photos, all three are different. Also on Tony's site http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa/ he has a discussion of why he went with extended hinge type something to do with balance and flutter... ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 10:07:29 AM PST US
    From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Capacitors
    --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Hello all, It's me, the electronically challenged, again. I received the capicator, today. It's the snap in type, with two pins sticking out of one end. One pin is silver, the other has a black dot on it. There is also a grey stripe down the side, oriented to the black spotted pin. Can someone tell me which pin is the positive? Thanks again... Jeff - A055 --


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    Time: 10:36:11 AM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RE: Aileron Trim Motor
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Thanks Steve, That's what I needed. Mike Duane Do Not Archive


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    Time: 11:07:46 AM PST US
    From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
    Subject: Monowheel brakes
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr> Hi all, We have a monowheel brake problem explained below. The main problem is the engineering and design of the caliper. The pressure application force is not on the center of the disc friction wide part and in fact the force give an effort diagonnaly to the piston. When the piston is locked in the cylinder he make a mark into the cylinder wall and after he stay in this position. Conclusion: In flight for landing there is no brake, and impossibility to move the aircraft manually on the ground. I have 250 hours with my Europa and during these utilisation I used the brake with moderation, never excess. For conclusive proof, my brake shoes are pratically news. I think this result is not normal, it is a caliper default. The main problem is: If I replace the caliper by a brand new, if the design is the same, the same problem appears on the next 250 hours!!! Alain Chabert have the same trouble. We are two Monowheels on three with this problem. Is there a builder know the same problem, and what is the possible technical solution?? Thanks -----Message d'origine----- De : mau11 [mailto:mau11@free.fr] Envoy=E9 : mercredi 18 mai 2005 09:23 =C0 : Draper Andy (andy@europa-aircraft.com) Objet : Brake piston locking Hello Handy, We have a problem with brake caliper. (Alain Chabert and me) We remove the caliper and give to you a picture with explanations. The piston is locked in wrong position. See on the drawing joint. Do you have a solution to resolve this problem? We have always the propeller problem. Thank you.


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    Time: 12:42:24 PM PST US
    From: Kim Bull <kim@austinluce.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Supurb dolly for sale]
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Kim Bull <kim@austinluce.co.uk> Hello Kim Thx. for the pics. very nice cradle. Can you get a completed plane on it by lifting the tail, rolling it backwards and when you drop tail, main is off the ground a bit? thx. Sincerely Ron Parigoris Hi Ron It may be possible to get it mostly in that way and then slide it back to the correct position, obviously I've not tried it. The dolly will allow full undercarriage operation with the wings on or off. Kim


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    Time: 12:54:53 PM PST US
    From: NevEyre@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Monowheel brakes
    --> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com Easy fix ! Remove caliper, push the piston back with a ''G'' cramp [ ''C'' cramp in US] bleed funnel [ or soak up any spillage with a cloth]. Enlarge the two holes in the floating pad plate by a few thou', and gently radius the edge of the holes on each side, don't go mad, just take the sharp edge off. If the pads have worn at an angle, either face them flat on a linisher [ wear a mask !}, or fit new linings. Lubricate the pins with a smear of ''copperslip, or similar copper based grease, and reassemble.Pump the master cylinder / top up fluid until pads are in contact with disc. Job done ! Cheers, Nev.


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    Time: 01:42:53 PM PST US
    From: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Capacitors
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net> > It's me, the electronically challenged, again. I received the > capicator, today. It's the snap in type, with two pins sticking out of > one end. One pin is silver, the other has a black dot on it. There is > also a grey stripe down the side, oriented to the black spotted pin. > Can someone tell me which pin is the positive? Thanks again... > > Jeff - A055 It's common on PC-mounted caps to mark only the negative in some way, so black with a stripe sounds good for that. See if mfr has a web site with its data sheet. Failing that -- got muiltimeter? Take a little 9V battery and hook it up that way and see if it rises to at least 8-something volts in a few seconds. If reversed, volts may not rise beyond a few, if at all, but not enough available energy to blow it up. Don't try it reversed as a double-check, if first test above is OK. May not damage the cap for a just a few seconds, or may.... Do not archive Reg, Fred F.


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    Time: 01:57:20 PM PST US
    From: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
    Subject: Funny fuel gauge
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl> Guys, I have a Westach fuel gauge in combination with a Princeton capacitive fuel level probe. When switching power on, the fuel gauge gives about 2 seconds of correct indication and the needle falls back to zero. Already tried another fuel gauge. Any Ideas ? Best Regards Sven den Boer


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    Time: 02:07:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Capacitors
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> Fellow Europaphiles, From Jeff: > It's me, the electronically challenged, again. I received the > capicator, today. It's the snap in type, with two pins sticking out of > one end. One pin is silver, the other has a black dot on it. There is > also a grey stripe down the side, oriented to the black spotted pin. > Can someone tell me which pin is the positive? Thanks again... > > Jeff - A055 Well, me too... How does one connect to it? Is there some sort of holder that this "snap-type" snaps into? Is there some sort of device that "snaps" to the prongs? Thanks from me too. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (80%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Preparing ROTAX 914 for installation. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117


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    Time: 02:15:05 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Funny fuel gauge
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> We had the Avalec capacitance gauge - by their own figures, it could give errors of 10% plus from one type of avgas to another and 50% plus if you use Mogas. Europa do a float type so we fitted that - works a treat (though fitting it is a fun job) Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl> Subject: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" > <svendenboer@quicknet.nl> > > Guys, > > I have a Westach fuel gauge in combination with a Princeton capacitive > fuel > level probe. > When switching power on, the fuel gauge gives about 2 seconds of correct > indication and the needle falls back to zero. > Already tried another fuel gauge. > > Any Ideas ? > > Best Regards > > Sven den Boer > > >


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    Time: 02:29:51 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Capacitors
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> The snap type (with pins) are designed for PCB mounting - you'll need to solder a couple of wires to it if you want to use it. Alternative is to return it if you can and get one with screw terminals (often called computer capacitors). Buy a high temperature cap (105 deg C) - they generally have a much longer quoted operating life. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "rlborger" <rlborger@mac.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Capacitors > --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> > > Fellow Europaphiles, > > From Jeff: > > > It's me, the electronically challenged, again. I received the > > capicator, today. It's the snap in type, with two pins sticking out > of > > one end. One pin is silver, the other has a black dot on it. There > is > > also a grey stripe down the side, oriented to the black spotted pin. > > Can someone tell me which pin is the positive? Thanks again... > > > > Jeff - A055 > > Well, me too... How does one connect to it? Is there some sort of > holder that this "snap-type" snaps into? Is there some sort of device > that "snaps" to the prongs? Thanks from me too. > > Good building and great flying, > Bob Borger > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S > http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL > (80%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch > system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, > Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar > in, flap drive in. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 > Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 > Doors, 37 Finishing. Preparing ROTAX 914 for installation. > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208 > Home: 940-497-2123 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > > >


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    Time: 02:53:43 PM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: Funny fuel gauge
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Have you checked the meter? Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation. Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sven den Boer Subject: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl> Guys, I have a Westach fuel gauge in combination with a Princeton capacitive fuel level probe. When switching power on, the fuel gauge gives about 2 seconds of correct indication and the needle falls back to zero. Already tried another fuel gauge. Any Ideas ? Best Regards Sven den Boer


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    Time: 02:57:47 PM PST US
    From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Capacitors
    --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Fred Fillinger wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net> > > > >>It's me, the electronically challenged, again. I received the >>capicator, today. It's the snap in type, with two pins sticking out >> >> >of > > >>one end. One pin is silver, the other has a black dot on it. There >> >> >is > > >>also a grey stripe down the side, oriented to the black spotted pin. >>Can someone tell me which pin is the positive? Thanks again... >> >>Jeff - A055 >> >> > >It's common on PC-mounted caps to mark only the negative in some way, >so black with a stripe sounds good for that. See if mfr has a web >site with its data sheet. Failing that -- got muiltimeter? Take a >little 9V battery and hook it up that way and see if it rises to at >least 8-something volts in a few seconds. If reversed, volts may not >rise beyond a few, if at all, but not enough available energy to blow >it up. Don't try it reversed as a double-check, if first test above >is OK. May not damage the cap for a just a few seconds, or may.... > >Do not archive > >Reg, >Fred F. > > > > Went back to Mouser.com and matched the KMH part number. They had a data sheet. To make a long story short, on this unit, the black dot is negative (-). Thanks again, guys.... -- Jeff - A055 --


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    Time: 03:13:56 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Araldite 420 in the USA?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good day All, Used all my remaining 420 when I put the top on. Now I need some more to close up the top panels in both wings. Contacted Grayco and they no longer sell it. Anyone know of any other suppliers? If that falls thru, has a replacement been found for it? I have read in the archive about the name is now Epibond 420? Another builder used ES6228. I wonder how this came out? Thanks for all the help. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Top On! Now going forward by working in the aft portion of the fuselage. I am so glad I built that shelf behind the BB bulkhead.


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    Time: 04:30:26 PM PST US
    From: "Rob Housman" <robh@hyperion-ef.us>
    Subject: Araldite 420 in the USA?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <robh@hyperion-ef.us> Try: http://www.huntsman.com/structural-adhesives/index.cfm?PageID=4652 ...not from personal experience, but from a Google search it looks promising. Best regards, Rob Housman Europa XS Tri-Gear A070 Airframe complete Irvine, CA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420 in the USA? --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good day All, Used all my remaining 420 when I put the top on. Now I need some more to close up the top panels in both wings. Contacted Grayco and they no longer sell it. Anyone know of any other suppliers? If that falls thru, has a replacement been found for it? I have read in the archive about the name is now Epibond 420? Another builder used ES6228. I wonder how this came out? Thanks for all the help. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Top On! Now going forward by working in the aft portion of the fuselage. I am so glad I built that shelf behind the BB bulkhead.


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    Time: 04:36:04 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Funny fuel gauge
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> Did you do the calibration on the sensor? After calibrating the gauge should go to empty then to full and then to the correct level when turned on. They must be calibrated before they will read correct. Dean Seitz N284A -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sven den Boer Subject: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl> Guys, I have a Westach fuel gauge in combination with a Princeton capacitive fuel level probe. When switching power on, the fuel gauge gives about 2 seconds of correct indication and the needle falls back to zero. Already tried another fuel gauge. Any Ideas ? Best Regards Sven den Boer




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