---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/20/05: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:03 AM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (nigel charles) 2. 12:03 AM - Re: FLYING FOR FUN /PFA Rally, 1st to 3rd July 2005 (nigel charles) 3. 02:30 AM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (Jeremy Davey) 4. 03:54 AM - funny fuel gauge (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk) 5. 08:09 AM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (R Holder) 6. 09:22 AM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (Jeremy Davey) 7. 09:29 AM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (John & Paddy Wigney) 8. 01:07 PM - Mod 70 - times two! (David Corbett) 9. 01:32 PM - Re: Funny fuel gauge (Simon Smith) 10. 03:22 PM - Turbo Cover (Erich Trombley) 11. 04:50 PM - Re: Turbo Cover (R.C.Harrison) 12. 07:39 PM - Tyre fitting tips (Paul McAllister) 13. 07:51 PM - It finally got it's papers!! (Dean Seitz) 14. 10:24 PM - Re: Re: Funny fuel gauge (Matthew Carpenter) 15. 10:34 PM - Re: It finally got it's papers!! (DuaneFamly@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:25 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" For what it is worth this is my viewpoint on fuel gauging. On a touring aircraft like the Europa knowing your fuel contents accurately gives peace of mind and avoids needless fuel stops at intermediate airfields. Although some may say that 3 hours is plenty long enough and is always within the range of a full tank, there are times when 2 sector trips without refuelling are required (no fuel available at destination or avoiding loading Avgas rather than unleaded). With that in mind it is helpful to have two independent ways of measuring fuel contents. Fuel level whether it is float, sightglass or capacitance sender is one method. Whilst this shows the quantity of fuel in the tank even the most accurate system is unlikely to better inaccuracies of 10 per cent. I use dual capacitance senders but treat them as a backup. My main (and by far more accurate fuel contents indication) is using a fuel flow sender and electronic integrator display (in my case uMonitor). Two of us have been running this system for 3 years now (the other Europa uses the EIS display). We are both remaining within 0.5 per cent and often within 0.2 per cent. There are only two significant considerations with the integrator system. Firstly it is important to remember to reset the calculated fuel contents after refuel. Secondly it will not read accurately if there is a fuel leak before the fuel flow sender. The chances of this are hopefully remote and you are likely to be aware of this by smell. Both techniques have been used for many years in larger aircraft. Even with very accurate gauging in the B777 often it is the level gauge rather than the integrated readings that gives errors. To sum up - by all means fit whatever you think is the best level gauging system but for real accuracy fit an integrator system. Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:25 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: RE: Europa-List: FLYING FOR FUN /PFA Rally, 1st to 3rd July 2005 --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" Hi Ian I would be happy to do a stint at the factory stand. However as I have yet to get my work programme, at this stage I can only predict that I am likely to be available on the Saturday. I will be certain of my availability on 1st June so will be able to commit then. Nigel >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- >>server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G-IANI >>Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:55 >>To: europa-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: Europa-List: FLYING FOR FUN /PFA Rally, 1st to 3rd July 2005 >> >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" >> >> >>This year we need more volunteer than ever before! >> >>Not only do we have our commitment to help Europa(2004) run their stand >>but >>demonstration area in the PFA homebuilders tent. >> >>EUROPA(2004) STAND >> >>The Club will be supplying a display aircraft and Andy and John will be >>manning the stand. The Club stand is next to the Europa(2004) stand >>(which >>is at the end of a row and has plenty of space for display aircraft). The >>Club would like to provide two people for the period from 11.00 to 17.00 >>Friday and Saturday and from 11.00 to 16.00 Sunday. So proposed shift are >>11.00 - 14.00 and 14.00 - 17.00. With the Europa staff present this >>should >>allow everyone time to talk to potential customers and have comfort breaks >>without feeling too overloaded. >> >>For anyone doing three hours or more you will receive a free ticket. >>Sorry >>no percentage on sales. >> >>If you can help us out, please contact me direct. Please give the hours >>you >>would be prefer to work and your home address (needed so tickets can be >>sent >>to you). I will then try and work out a timetable and contact all who >>have >>volunteered. >> >> >>COMPOSITE CONSTRUCTION DEMONSTRATION AREA >> >>Nev Eyre and I will be about to help out but we need are two people at a >>time to man the stand. So why not do it with a co-builder (or friend if >>you >>still have any). If you cannot persuade a friend I will be happy to pair >>you up with some other suitably insane aircraft builder. The proposed >>slot >>are 11.00 to 14.00 and 14.00 to 17.00 (16.00 on Sunday) on each of the >>three >>days (but we will try to arrange things to fit your attendance). >> >>The task will be to talk to those who visit the stand, answer questions >>and >>to demonstrate working in composites. We are not expecting you to be give >>a >>lecture on the subject just to talk to those attending about you >>experience. >>We will provide some example pieces in various states of construction and >>we >>expect to have a composite fuselage (probably a Bambi) that you can show >>visitors round. We will have available suitable moulds for joystick >>guards >>(needed at base of stick for stick boots), overhead cheese wedge panel >>(with >>curved sides which fit unlike the factory version) and maybe others. >>Please >>let me know if you want to make something else. This is a perfect >>opportunity for those of you who want to make something small but are >>deterred by having to buy new epoxy, glass etc. >> >>You will get free entry to the Rally (all days + camping if required) for >>doing a session. You will get to keep the beautiful demonstration piece >>you >>produce. Volunteers for less hours will be very welcome but PFA largess >>will not extend to free tickets. >> >>You do not have to make something specific but all the basis material and >>equipment will be to hand. We do suggest you bring your own gloves (for >>comfort but we will have disposables available if you forget), face masks, >>overalls and any favourite mixing sticks etc. >> >>Please give the hours you would be prefer to work and your home address >>(needed so tickets can be sent to you). I will then try and work out a >>timetable and contact all who have volunteered. >> >> >>Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trig ear >>Europa Club Mods Rep >>e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk, or direct on g-iani@ntlworld.com >>37 Willowmead Close, Woking, Surrey, GU21 3DN. Tel 01483 714096 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:02 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Nigel, Agreed 100%. Club members will be interested to note that the mod I've put forward for conversion into a Standard Mod and mentioned in the last Europa Flyer allows the sight gauge to be deleted IF AND ONLY IF two systems differing in their operation are implemented for measuring fuel level. Such systems might include: Capacitance gauges (see existing Club mod) Magnetic gauges (see Factory mod) Integrator (aka totaliser) Float gauge While I wrote it to allow the generic case in order that it could become a useful standard mod, in my own case I am using twin capacitance probes (one each side, although only one on the main side is actually required) and an integrator. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation. Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel charles Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" --> For what it is worth this is my viewpoint on fuel gauging. On a touring aircraft like the Europa knowing your fuel contents accurately gives peace of mind and avoids needless fuel stops at intermediate airfields. Although some may say that 3 hours is plenty long enough and is always within the range of a full tank, there are times when 2 sector trips without refuelling are required (no fuel available at destination or avoiding loading Avgas rather than unleaded). With that in mind it is helpful to have two independent ways of measuring fuel contents. Fuel level whether it is float, sightglass or capacitance sender is one method. Whilst this shows the quantity of fuel in the tank even the most accurate system is unlikely to better inaccuracies of 10 per cent. I use dual capacitance senders but treat them as a backup. My main (and by far more accurate fuel contents indication) is using a fuel flow sender and electronic integrator display (in my case uMonitor). Two of us have been running this system for 3 years now (the other Europa uses the EIS display). We are both remaining within 0.5 per cent and often within 0.2 per cent. There are only two significant considerations with the integrator system. Firstly it is important to remember to reset the calculated fuel contents after refuel. Secondly it will not read accurately if there is a fuel leak before the fuel flow sender. The chances of this are hopefully remote and you are likely to be aware of this by smell. Both techniques have been used for many years in larger aircraft. Even with very accurate gauging in the B777 often it is the level gauge rather than the integrated readings that gives errors. To sum up - by all means fit whatever you think is the best level gauging system but for real accuracy fit an integrator system. Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:20 AM PST US From: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Subject: Europa-List: funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Hi All, While we're talking about fuel gauges etc, (I've fitted th factory fuel gauge) has any one fitted the fuel monitoring system FS450 as advertised by Harry Mendelssohn. It looks neat and reasonable cheap, but is it up to the job. Cheers Danny ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:32 AM PST US From: R Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder Jeremy Davey wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" > > > Nigel, > > Agreed 100%. Club members will be interested to note > that the mod I've put forward for conversion into a > Standard Mod and mentioned in the last Europa Flyer > allows the sight gauge to be deleted IF AND ONLY IF two > systems differing in their operation are implemented > for measuring fuel level. > > Such systems might include: > > Capacitance gauges (see existing Club mod) Magnetic > gauges (see Factory mod) Integrator (aka totaliser) > Float gauge > > While I wrote it to allow the generic case in order > that it could become a useful standard mod, in my own > case I am using twin capacitance probes (one each side, > although only one on the main side is actually > required) and an integrator. > > Regards, Jeremy Why are you changing the spec to a doubled up system ? The original sight tube was perfectly acceptable as a (single) means of checking fuel level. When the Europa fuel gauge came out we fitted that (during the build) and deleted the sight gauge. So we still had one means of checking the fuel level. No change. So why now insist on two means of checking ? Completely unnecessary, AND there is a danger that if it gets written into a standard mod that way there will be a requrement for ALL aircraft to have two means of checking. And that IS not needed at tthe moment. I do of course record all the fuel I put in (on a sheet of paper) and whenever I overdo it and the filler slops over I record the approximate amount I put in and record that the tank was absolutely full at that point. Over the 2500 litres I have put in so far the fuel burn has been reasonably consistent, remembering I tend to only do short hops - 20 - 60 minutes. Richard Holder G-OWWW - 51 - High Cross ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:01 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Richard, Because the means of measuring may be indirect (e.g. totaliser), and that's what Engineering wanted if a variety of indirect means were used. Obviously that contrasts somewhat with the Factory arrangements that allow just the one gauge - sight tube or the magnetic float type, but that contrast is not unheard of, is it? :-) Bear in mind, too, that capacitance gauges are affected by changes in dielectric constant, as previously discussed - so their suitability for sole gauging is questionable. Those who want to use the Factory system are unaffected, of course, and can just use that one. And those wanting to use just one system that isn't the Factory one can apply for a mod accordingly. As for all aircraft being required to have two systems - I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion. It would certainly be seen by all as PFA Engineering taking things too far and I, for one, very much doubt they would even entertain such an idea! Above all, mine is just a mod, not a standard! Kind regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder Jeremy Davey wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" > > > Nigel, > > Agreed 100%. Club members will be interested to note that the mod I've > put forward for conversion into a Standard Mod and mentioned in the > last Europa Flyer allows the sight gauge to be deleted IF AND ONLY IF > two systems differing in their operation are implemented for measuring > fuel level. > > Such systems might include: > > Capacitance gauges (see existing Club mod) Magnetic gauges (see > Factory mod) Integrator (aka totaliser) Float gauge > > While I wrote it to allow the generic case in order that it could > become a useful standard mod, in my own case I am using twin > capacitance probes (one each side, although only one on the main side > is actually > required) and an integrator. > > Regards, Jeremy Why are you changing the spec to a doubled up system ? The original sight tube was perfectly acceptable as a (single) means of checking fuel level. When the Europa fuel gauge came out we fitted that (during the build) and deleted the sight gauge. So we still had one means of checking the fuel level. No change. So why now insist on two means of checking ? Completely unnecessary, AND there is a danger that if it gets written into a standard mod that way there will be a requrement for ALL aircraft to have two means of checking. And that IS not needed at tthe moment. I do of course record all the fuel I put in (on a sheet of paper) and whenever I overdo it and the filler slops over I record the approximate amount I put in and record that the tank was absolutely full at that point. Over the 2500 litres I have put in so far the fuel burn has been reasonably consistent, remembering I tend to only do short hops - 20 - 60 minutes. Richard Holder G-OWWW - 51 - High Cross ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:29:42 AM PST US From: John & Paddy Wigney Subject: Europa-List: Re: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <>Hi Sven, I am not sure if this will help your problem but it may give you some ideas. I have a Westach capacitance fuel gauge system which I bought from Aircraft Spruce. The dual fuel gauge is # 2DA4V and the two senders are # 395-5S-1B. The system has worked well for me and as far as I am aware, does not indicate differently for 100LL versus autofuel. The individual probes go from the tank top to the rear inboard corners of each tank section. The calibration range permits one to set the full for the reserve section when the level is at the top of this section (= 2 US gallons). I fitted individual flanges and seals for each probe in the tank top. Next time, I would use a single rectangular plate to mount both probes. This makes insertion of the inner backing plate much easier. I chose not to fit the factory sight tube arrangement as I was not enthusiastic about plastic pipes running around the cockpit. The only snag with the capacitance setup, and I think this will be similar with the factory Mod 60 fuel gauge, is that the calibration is very coarse at the top of the tank. What I mean is that the top quarter of the tank contains approximately 7.5 US gallons out of a total of 18.0 US gallons. Using the level gauge, I found it to be almost impossible to measure and calculate fuel consumption when the tank is near the top. My solution for this problem was to add the fuel flow / totaliser option to my Grand Rapids EIS. This was a vast improvement and is very accurate. It shows gallons per hour, fuel remaining in decimals of gallons and does the arithmetic for endurance as well. Having two independent systems is a useful cross check. Cheers, John N262WF, monoXS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina Time: 01:57:20 PM PST US From: "Sven den Boer" Subject: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge Guys, I have a Westach fuel gauge in combination with a Princeton capacitive fuel level probe. When switching power on, the fuel gauge gives about 2 seconds of correct indication and the needle falls back to zero. Already tried another fuel gauge. Any Ideas ? Best Regards Sven den Boer ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:52 PM PST US From: "David Corbett" "Martin Caloran" Subject: Europa-List: Mod 70 - times two! --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" Robin James and I have today completed Mod 70 on our two aircraft, here at Shobdon. The first aircraft took 2 of us 5 hours, the second took 3 hours. Why the differnece, you may ask? My aircraft was first; it has the baggage bay mod - which makes working on your stomach in the aft fuselage that much easier; but it also has one access panel for the rear fuselage built to the instructions on page 24-3 of the Europa Manual, dated 17/1/96; this called for a 4" OD diameter inspection panel, which I knew all along would not let me work properly through that panel. As a result, only one person could work at a time, and unbolting the 2 AN3 bolts from inside was a pain - but not nearly as difficult as re-attaching the new TP 18 from inside, which was almost a nightmare. Robin James's aircraft does not have the baggage bay mod, which made working on the removable bulkhead more difficult, but his rear fuselage inspection panel was large enough for me to be able to cut the wires out and undo the 2 AN3 bolts through the panel - using masking tape to hold the 1/4 AF spanner in place whilst slackening the AN3 bolt with a 3/8 ratchet. That was a doddle - but for some reason, having fed the new TP 18 in through the inspection panel, whilst Robin inside worked on the bulkhead, and having successfully fitted the lower AN3 bolt using one arm only, the top AN3 would not go in more than half way for either of us (Robin is a higly experienced motor-bike restorer). In the end, he chamfered the end of the top AN3 bolt and, while I waggled the front end of TP 18 around from inside, he eventually got that bolt through. Everything then went together without further problems. I hope these few tips may be helpful to those of you still to face up to the task - we did it today because my Permit is to be renewed next week. Working right aft within the rear fusealge is not as claustrophobic as I had expected that it would be - but I did find that, whilst trying to get the AN3 bolts undone - and done up again - there was not enough room for me to bend my head backwards to enable me to see what I was doing - and therefore everything, including the wire cutting - had to be done by feel. I emphasise that this only applies to aircraft that have a 4" OD inspection panel that is not big enough to enable a thin arm to get inside and work directly on the AN3 bolts. If your inspection panel is larger, you will do the job easily without having to go right aft inside. Robin's aircraft also has the small 2.5" inspection panel higher up and further aft in the rear fuselage - but that was of very little help - you cannot see the lower AN3 bolt through that panel. Two final tips - when reinstalling TP 18, do not try to get the AN3 bolts straight back into place - use a smaller "drift", such as a thinner drill bit, to locate the 2 holes before pushing the bolts home; and - if you drill the 3 holes in the Tufnol strip as shown, the top bolt will foul the glassfibre brackets to which the top of the bulkhead is bolted. Consider drilling the top hole a little lower than shown?? Best of luck - I now feel very stiff, but also very smug!! David G-BZAM, UK 265 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:04 PM PST US From: "Simon Smith" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" The pdf for mod 60 (fuel gauge) seems to suggest that it is not sufficient to only have the float gauge and that a second method of verification is required. See item 10 at http://www.europa-aircraft.biz/pdfs/modifications/Mod%2060.pdf Regards Simon -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: RE: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" --> Richard, Because the means of measuring may be indirect (e.g. totaliser), and that's what Engineering wanted if a variety of indirect means were used. Obviously that contrasts somewhat with the Factory arrangements that allow just the one gauge - sight tube or the magnetic float type, but that contrast is not unheard of, is it? :-) Bear in mind, too, that capacitance gauges are affected by changes in dielectric constant, as previously discussed - so their suitability for sole gauging is questionable. Those who want to use the Factory system are unaffected, of course, and can just use that one. And those wanting to use just one system that isn't the Factory one can apply for a mod accordingly. As for all aircraft being required to have two systems - I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion. It would certainly be seen by all as PFA Engineering taking things too far and I, for one, very much doubt they would even entertain such an idea! Above all, mine is just a mod, not a standard! Kind regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder Jeremy Davey wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" > > > Nigel, > > Agreed 100%. Club members will be interested to note that the mod I've > put forward for conversion into a Standard Mod and mentioned in the > last Europa Flyer allows the sight gauge to be deleted IF AND ONLY IF > two systems differing in their operation are implemented for measuring > fuel level. > > Such systems might include: > > Capacitance gauges (see existing Club mod) Magnetic gauges (see > Factory mod) Integrator (aka totaliser) Float gauge > > While I wrote it to allow the generic case in order that it could > become a useful standard mod, in my own case I am using twin > capacitance probes (one each side, although only one on the main side > is actually > required) and an integrator. > > Regards, Jeremy Why are you changing the spec to a doubled up system ? The original sight tube was perfectly acceptable as a (single) means of checking fuel level. When the Europa fuel gauge came out we fitted that (during the build) and deleted the sight gauge. So we still had one means of checking the fuel level. No change. So why now insist on two means of checking ? Completely unnecessary, AND there is a danger that if it gets written into a standard mod that way there will be a requrement for ALL aircraft to have two means of checking. And that IS not needed at tthe moment. I do of course record all the fuel I put in (on a sheet of paper) and whenever I overdo it and the filler slops over I record the approximate amount I put in and record that the tank was absolutely full at that point. Over the 2500 litres I have put in so far the fuel burn has been reasonably consistent, remembering I tend to only do short hops - 20 - 60 minutes. Richard Holder G-OWWW - 51 - High Cross ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:44 PM PST US From: "Erich Trombley" Subject: Europa-List: Turbo Cover --> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" I have a non-standard cowing for my Europa and noticed that due to the proximity of the Turbo and Muffler to the lower cowling that without shielding hot spots develop on the cowl. Unfortunately, due to the heat I am constantly changing out the heat barrier on the lower cowl. I would like to instead apply a heat shield blanket to the turbo and muffler. I have seen these kits in the performance shops and was wondering if there were any drawbacks to this system. Anyone??? Erich Trombley N28ET Mono-Classic 914 Get Juno Platinum for as low as $4.97/month! Visit http://www.juno.com/half to sign up today! ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:31 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Turbo Cover --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Hi! Erich Whilst I'm no Rotax specialist I don't agree with your proposal. It will retain more heat longer on shut down and cook more oil in the turbo bearings than your present set up. I have used soldering mats appropriately positioned on the inside of the cowl in a pocket edged by "glass" . It is quite resilient to wear. Regards Bob Harrison Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Erich Trombley Subject: Europa-List: Turbo Cover --> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" I have a non-standard cowing for my Europa and noticed that due to the proximity of the Turbo and Muffler to the lower cowling that without shielding hot spots develop on the cowl. Unfortunately, due to the heat I am constantly changing out the heat barrier on the lower cowl. I would like to instead apply a heat shield blanket to the turbo and muffler. I have seen these kits in the performance shops and was wondering if there were any drawbacks to this system. Anyone??? Erich Trombley N28ET Mono-Classic 914 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:56 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: Tyre fitting tips --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi all, I have to fit a new inner tube to my monowheel. The tyre is a McCleary airtrack and I seem to recall some folks having trouble with the inner tubes pinching. I didn't do anything special first time around, but I thought I'd ask. Paul ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:42 PM PST US From: "Dean Seitz" Subject: Europa-List: It finally got it's papers!! --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" This morning Kit A284, AKA N284A had it's FAA inspection. The inspector did not find anything that didn't meet his approval. This week I will button everything up and check over one more time and start testing next weekend if all goes well. Dean Seitz Kit A284 N284A, XS trigear, hightop mod, Rotax 914, Airmaster AP 332 CS prop ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:24:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Funny fuel gauge From: Matthew Carpenter --> Europa-List message posted by: Matthew Carpenter Did you have to put two fuel flow meters on your EIS?? I called them, and they said because it's a 914 and has return fuel that I needed two of them. Matt Carpenter John & Paddy Wigney wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney > ><>Hi Sven, > >I am not sure if this will help your problem but it may give you some >ideas. I have a Westach capacitance fuel gauge system which I bought >from Aircraft Spruce. The dual fuel gauge is # 2DA4V and the two senders >are # 395-5S-1B. The system has worked well for me and as far as I am >aware, does not indicate differently for 100LL versus autofuel. The >individual probes go from the tank top to the rear inboard corners of >each tank section. The calibration range permits one to set the full >for the reserve section when the level is at the top of this section (= >2 US gallons). I fitted individual flanges and seals for each probe in >the tank top. Next time, I would use a single rectangular plate to mount >both probes. This makes insertion of the inner backing plate much easier. > >I chose not to fit the factory sight tube arrangement as I was not >enthusiastic about plastic pipes running around the cockpit. The only >snag with the capacitance setup, and I think this will be similar with >the factory Mod 60 fuel gauge, is that the calibration is very coarse at >the top of the tank. What I mean is that the top quarter of the tank >contains approximately 7.5 US gallons out of a total of 18.0 US gallons. >Using the level gauge, I found it to be almost impossible to measure and >calculate fuel consumption when the tank is near the top. > >My solution for this problem was to add the fuel flow / totaliser option >to my Grand Rapids EIS. This was a vast improvement and is very >accurate. It shows gallons per hour, fuel remaining in decimals of >gallons and does the arithmetic for endurance as well. Having two >independent systems is a useful cross check. > >Cheers, John > >N262WF, monoXS, 912S >Mooresville, North Carolina > > >Time: 01:57:20 PM PST US >From: "Sven den Boer" >Subject: Europa-List: Funny fuel gauge >Guys, >I have a Westach fuel gauge in combination with a Princeton capacitive fuel >level probe. >When switching power on, the fuel gauge gives about 2 seconds of correct >indication and the needle falls back to zero. >Already tried another fuel gauge. >Any Ideas ? >Best Regards >Sven den Boer > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:34:21 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: It finally got it's papers!! --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Dean, Did you have a DAR inspector for your project while you were building? What did the Inspector really look for during his inspection? How are you going to handle your first flight? Who will do it, is what I'm really asking? Still a ways away but curious. Mike Duane Redding, CA XS Conventional Gear