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1. 01:57 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 05/28/05 (Graham Singleton)
2. 02:03 AM - Kit No 15 Flies at Last (Graham Singleton)
3. 03:15 AM - Re: The Annual E-Mail plea (Jeremy Davey)
4. 08:00 AM - Re: Fw: Kit No 15 Flies at Last (Tony Bale)
5. 09:46 AM - Re: Ferry flight Sun/Mon - Liec/Kemble (Tim Butterworth)
6. 11:20 AM - Re: DOTH Suggestions ? (Bryan Allsop)
7. 12:10 PM - Was Kit No 15 Flies at Last NOW special warning Re:- handling fuel. (R.C.Harrison)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 05/28/05 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
Could we all please stop quoting entire prior emails (which in turn
quote prior emails, etc) lest our stacks overflow and expose yet another
vulnerability. Seriously, the size of the digest is getting enourmous
and the fraction of new information getting vanishingly small.
Ira N224xs
Ira & everyone
Can I add that it is very tedious scrolling past yards of emails that have been
scrolled past several times before.
Also unfair on Matt Draille, his stack must be gigantic
Graham
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| Subject: | Kit No 15 Flies at Last |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Kit No 15 Flies at Last
--> Europa-List message posted by: Edward Gladstone <Ted_Gladstone@compuserve.com>
Hi Everyone
On the 24th May 2005 our Classic Europa Monowheel G-ZTED finally took to
the air at Wombleton in the capable hands of Andy Draper.
Ted! delighted to hear you are flying at last. I hope you manage to make it to
Kemble,
everone should have a chance to see at least some of your wonderful mods.
Graham
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| Subject: | The Annual E-Mail plea |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Nev,
Sorry, mate, but I think youre being paranoid on that one! Youre welcome
to say: "I told you so!" if youre proved right, of course :-)
I've had separate correspondence with Graham, and I read it as "no KW work
to be used now". We've already have one volunteer to replace the role
performed by KW for the PFA, and I'm sure Graham is open to more if anyone
out there wants to volunteer?
Regarding pursuing KW with the full force of the law, the PFA rules, and the
CAA, you have my full support!
Cheers,
Jeremy Who
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1400 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NevEyre@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Annual E-Mail plea
--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
Hi Ira [ and Gentlemen]
Is this a victory ?
The copy of Graham Newby's letter that Mike Parkin shared with us
read......''We are listening to the membership and will be sourcing other
photo's for
the magazine in the future'',
He [GN] never said they wouldn't be useing KW 's photo's, just that they
would look for others.
Also , GN used the company initials of one of KW 's Companies, no mention
of KW personally. KW is officially involved in more than 20 Companies, so I
am
told, so GN has left the way open for photo's to still come from KW via a
different route, perhaps without a KW credit?
I will only believe it when a statement is published in the PF magazine
publically recognising the despicable deeds of KW, and advising the entire
P.F.A.
Membership of the vetoing of his work.
During the next week, I will be making enquiries to see if the constitution
of the PFA allows for a member to be permanently barred, if someone proposes
that at [ before ?] the AGM, and it is carried by members present ?
I am also looking into the ''hire and reward'' aspects of useing Permit,
and
Private Cat' CAA aircraft for aerial work.
Much as I would love to ''interface'' KW's head and a baseball bat, I think
there is scope within the legal [ and moral ?] rules and regulations to
make
it uncomfortable for him, at the very least !
Cheers,
Nev.
PS Ira, are you still after the R/C plans for a Europa, I found a set ?
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: Kit No 15 Flies at Last |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
Congrats - now the fun starts, hopefully you have better luck than we did
with the weather for completing the test schedule !!
Tony Bale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: Kit No 15 Flies at Last
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> Good news from Ted Gladstone (who has been so busy he didn't notice
> the Europa list hasn't been at the address he used for over 2 years
> ....)
>
> >Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 13:24:25 -0400
> >From: Edward Gladstone <Ted_Gladstone@compuserve.com>
> >Subject: Kit No 15 Flies at Last
> >Sender: Edward Gladstone <Ted_Gladstone@compuserve.com>
> >To: Europa List <forum@europaclub.org.uk>
> >
> >
> >Hi Everyone
> >
> >On the 24th May 2005 our Classic Europa Monowheel G-ZTED finally took to
> >the air at Wombleton in the capable hands of Andy Draper.
> >
> >After 11 years can we claim the record for the slowest build ?
> >
> >Andy stated that she flew beautifully with no adverse tendencies.
> >However, during a few flights to adjust the fine & course pitch stops on
> >the Airmaster prop and to investigate our numerous modifications, (
> >Different Main Wheel operating lever, Electric Flaps, Electric
Outriggers,
> >an adaptation of the Nigel Charles parallel fuel system, Cowl Flaps,
> >Throttle Levers on each side of the cockpit, Third door shoot bolt, Gas
> >Strut containment levers, Secret catches on Oil, & Water inspection doors
> >and Fuel Filler, Long Wing Root Fairings, and a cool air and demist
system
> >integrated into the dashboard - - - - - can we also claim the record for
> >the most mods ? ) he started to experience coughing and spluttering from
> >the engine. This always occurred about 1minute after opening the
> >throttle to full power for take off and was accompanied with a massive
drop
> >in the EGT on the port side. This could normally be stopped by
> >throttling back slightly and then opening the throttle again and it was
OK
> >for he rest of the flight. The spluttering appeared to last longer on
> >each flight despite our checks on the fuel flow and even changing the
fuel
> >pump until, on one flight, our heart stopped as we watched him
disappearing
> >down behind the trees when the engine did not pick up again. He did,
in
> >fact, get it back to the airfield as it eventually picked up out of our
> >earshot and we were able to breath again. The rest of the tests were
> >carried out on the ground at full power with the tailwheel tied to my
car.
> > It was eventually solved when I removed the port carb, removed the
float
> >chamber bowl and did a fuel flow test by catching the fuel coming out the
> >float needle valve. It was more than adequate but in the bottom of the
> >catch bowl was a tiny chip of what looked like epoxy resin. It had
either
> >blocked the flow to the needle valve or prevented the needle valve from
> >closing properly ( after one test the carb had obviously flooded as
there
> >was fuel dripping out the drain hole in the bottom of the plenum
chamber )
> >but as to why it only happened after 1 minute at full power and at no
other
> >time is still a mystery.
> >
> >A further three flights were carried out on Friday 27th and she performed
> >flawlessly during which I and my co-builder Justin were able to act as on
> >board observers ! !
> >
> >We returned home to Edinburgh late last night but I am not sure if we
have
> >returned to earth yet !!!!!
> >
> >The fuel problem meant that the full test program could not be completed
> >and, as this a Bank Holiday weekend, we will have to return to
> >Kirkbymoorside next week to continue the tests.
> >
> >Those of you still building - - - - stick at it - - - - it's worth it
in
> >the end.
> >
> >
> >Ted & Justin
>
> Hearty congratulations to Ted & Justin!
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ferry flight Sun/Mon - Liec/Kemble |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Butterworth" <Tim.Butterworth@CVLUK.COM>
Many thanks to all who made the kind offer to ferry me from Liecester to Kemble.
Dave Bosomworth was first past the post and stepped into the breach today. Lovely
flight, I was able to pick up my Europa (G-CHEB) and now all safely back
at Leciester.
Many thanks Dave, and hopefully I'll now see more of you on the various flyins
and DOTH's.
Regards
Tim Butterworth
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Suggestions ? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
Hi Alan,
Got any takers for a Monday Doth?
Bryan
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Suggestions ?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
> <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
> As Monday is a bank holiday and the weather looks ok anyone know of a
> good fly in or place to visit ?
>
> Alan
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Kit No 15 Flies at Last NOW special warning re:- handling |
fuel.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Steven /all
"With fuel dripping down your arms".......
Good time for everyone to listen up .... Sounds daft but it will drive
you wild with pain if you happen to get any in your ear.
Been there got the ......experience to relate it. Easily done laying on
your back under your bird taking off gascolator bowls.
I could think of better birds to be on my back under anyway!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pitt
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Kit No 15 Flies at Last
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt"
<steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
Well done to you and thanks for the encouragement. As I sat yesterday
with
fuel dripping down my arms from a leaking fuel strainer I did wonder
whether
it was really worth it after 7 years!
Regards
Steve Pitt #403
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