Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 06/05/05


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:07 AM - Re: First flight N284A (Peter Grant)
     2. 02:37 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
     3. 02:52 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
     4. 02:54 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
     5. 02:57 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
     6. 03:04 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
     7. 03:13 AM - Re: First Flight G-OBJT (Gerry Holland)
     8. 03:56 AM - Re: upper cowling , two access panels (steve v.)
     9. 04:36 AM - Re: Re: upper cowling , two access panels (Gerry Holland)
    10. 07:04 AM - Re: First flight N284A (Rowland Carson)
    11. 07:49 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
    12. 08:13 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
    13. 09:33 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
    14. 09:36 AM - First Flight G-OBJT (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
    15. 09:48 AM - Re: First Flight G-OBJT ()
    16. 10:34 AM -  (Gerry Holland)
    17. 10:46 AM - Re: First Flight G-OBJT (R Holder)
    18. 11:16 AM - Re: First Flight G-OBJT (Gerry Holland)
    19. 11:20 AM - First flights G-OBJT & N284A  (Vaughn Teegarden)
    20. 01:14 PM - First flights G-OBJT & N284A  (Paul McAllister)
    21. 03:21 PM - Re: How many clecos needed? (SteveD)
    22. 04:37 PM - Re: Re: How many clecos needed? ()
    23. 04:38 PM - Fuel taxes potentially to be scrapped (Jeremy Davey)
    24. 04:41 PM - Re: First flight N284A (Dean Seitz)
    25. 05:20 PM - Belting for trailer (N55XS)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:07:31 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
    Subject: First flight N284A
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk> Well done, Dean. Any chance of a pic for the Europa Flyer magazine, please? Regards Peter Grant 10 The Sidings, Horncastle, Lincs LN9 5UA, UK Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 Mobile: 07774 923160 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This email is intended for the sole use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. I can accept no liability for misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically scanned by Norton Anti-Virus -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dean Seitz Subject: Europa-List: First flight N284A --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> Today at 02.00 pm I made the first flight on my Europa A284 -- N284A This aircraft is a hi-top Tri-gear XS with the NG mods on the fuse for the doors but with foam tail planes. The aircraft has a Rotax 914 with Airmaster prop and a Dynon EFIS with backup instruments, a King KX125 Nav/Com, and Narco AT165 mode C transponder. It came in at 868 lbs with interior still to go in. The flight only lasted one time around the pattern due to the oil temp gauge going to full scale (pegged over 300 deg.). Take off and landing were perfect with no problems. The oil temp problem was found to be a connection problem. Will try further flight attempts next weekend. Dean Seitz N284A


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    Time: 02:37:03 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 02:52:21 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 02:54:23 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 02:57:56 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 03:04:52 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 03:13:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight G-OBJT
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers > at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Well Done!! 830 lbs. Seems OK to me for a Trigear. Regards Gerry


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    Time: 03:56:09 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: upper cowling , two access panels
    From: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
    1.64 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty 0.10 TO_EMPTY To: is empty --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net> hi gerry , the correct two pictures have now appeard ! , i like your idea but ive already cut all the hinge slots :-( steve # 573 ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 04:36:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: RE: upper cowling , two access panels
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > I like your idea but I've already cut all the hinge slots. Then you can use the small stainless countersunk screws with nuts the other side including a washer the same as Nigel Charles. It looks really neat. Obviously enjoying yourself!! Regards Gerry


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    Time: 07:04:58 AM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Re: First flight N284A
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2005-06-04 16:40 -0400 Dean Seitz wrote: >Today at 02.00 pm I made the first flight on my Europa A284 -- N284A Dean - congratulations! Just a couple of queries for the record - I assume from what you say that you did the first flight yourself - is that correct? And at which airfield did the happy event take place, please? regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>


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    Time: 07:49:54 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 08:13:03 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 09:33:08 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 09:36:45 AM PST US
    From: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar


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    Time: 09:48:26 AM PST US
    From: <beecho@beecho.org>
    Subject: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org> When is G-OBJT going to fly? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian and Pat Tarmar Subject: Europa-List: First Flight G-OBJT --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian and Pat Tarmar" --> <freefolk@screaming.net> Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to achieve a reasonable finish. My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has started the test process so successfully. Brian and Pat Tarmar -- --


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    Time: 10:34:57 AM PST US
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    0.10 SUBJ_ILLEGAL_CHARS Subject contains too many raw illegal characters --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Here is the offending item! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5587517466 Not sure what to think......but here it is. Regards Gerry


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    Time: 10:46:56 AM PST US
    From: R Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: First Flight G-OBJT
    --> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > Kit 055 Classic Trigear G-OBJT finally took to the air > between heavy showers at Old Sarum on Friday 3rd June > at 1805 BST. Test pilot David Scouller made this, his > first Europa, the 193rd type to grace his logbooks (he > is trying for 200 before he retires). David flew for > 35 minutes and managed to achieve a very complete > schedule of handling tests before the approaching gloom > curtailed operations. Stalls were thoroughly checked, > indicating a slight left wing drop - possibly connected > to slight asymmetric flap lowering which generated a > slight roll in that direction. VNE was attempted but > abandoned at 157 Kts when rough air was encountered. > Otherwise there are few snags to clear and the Grand > Rapids EFIS came in for special praise. > > G-OBJT weighed in at 830 lbs empty, which I guess is a > little on the heavy side considering the 912S sits > behind a Warp Drive prop, but this is probably down to > my painting efforts which entailed many extra coats to > achieve a reasonable finish. > > My thanks to John Grant who commenced the build way > back in '94, Inspectors Graham Singleton and Ted Terry > who examined the beast, and David Scouller who has > started the test process so successfully. > > Brian and Pat Tarmar Congratulations, but is it really necessary to send this identical email out more than 10 times ? Whatever it is duplicating the mail please stop it ! I am surprised that the PFA allowed someone who had never flown a Europa to do the test flying. I understood that some experience on Europas was necessary. Richard Holder G-OWWW #51 High Cross


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    Time: 11:16:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Flight G-OBJT
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > Congratulations, but is it really necessary to send this > identical email out more than 10 times ? Whatever it is > duplicating the mail please stop it ! The Sender has been told. Victim of Mail Server I'm afraid. > > I am surprised that the PFA allowed someone who had never > flown a Europa to do the test flying. I understood that > some experience on Europas was necessary. This Test Pilot David Schouller headed up the Empire Test Pilots School and was certainly at Boscombe Down in that type of role. His experience is wide ranging from Very fast Jets to instructing on Perf A and below at this time. No worries with this gentleman! Regards Gerry


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    Time: 11:20:43 AM PST US
    From: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
    Subject: First flights G-OBJT & N284A
    clamav-milter version 0.80j on mercury --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net> Good Morning Brian & Dean Happy flying to both of you. Hearing of the first flights is a great encouragement to press on with my own build. Just received panel pieces parts and am looking forward to installing and wiring up. I'm also going with GRT EFIS. Brian, would you have a picture of your panel? Vaughn Teegarden N914VA


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    Time: 01:14:08 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: First flights G-OBJT & N284A
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Guys, Warmest congratulations on your first flights. Now the fun begins. Paul N378PJ - 230 hours and still grinning do not archive


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    Time: 03:21:37 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: How many clecos needed?
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Hi George, Dig through the archive search "Cockpit module" there's bunches of posts @: http://www.sarangan.org/europa_forum/2005-06/index.html Or go to http://www.europaowners.org/gallery and search "Cockpit module" lots of pictures. I did my module as a one man job, with sheet metal screws. BrianS did his with weights and straps and very few screws. The only clecos I have are the ones that came with the kit. I didn't find the need for more. Chat Later, Steved ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 04:37:50 PM PST US
    From: <beecho@beecho.org>
    Subject: RE: How many clecos needed?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org> Hi George I have about 30 to 40 1/8" clecos and a dozen 3/16". I found them very useful in putting the top on, the rudder post in, fitting the rudder, trim tabs, ailerons, plexi in the windows, the panel, etc. The beauty is that one can fit, adjust, re-fit, then do the final and after the epoxy sets, remove them. If I find a bunch of them on eBay or somewhere, I'll buy more. Who knows, maybe they will help with erectile dysfunction or ? Tom -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteveD Subject: Europa-List: RE: How many clecos needed? --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Hi George, Dig through the archive search "Cockpit module" there's bunches of posts @: http://www.sarangan.org/europa_forum/2005-06/index.html Or go to http://www.europaowners.org/gallery and search "Cockpit module" lots of pictures. I did my module as a one man job, with sheet metal screws. BrianS did his with weights and straps and very few screws. The only clecos I have are the ones that came with the kit. I didn't find the need for more. Chat Later, Steved ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ -- --


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    Time: 04:38:43 PM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: Fuel taxes potentially to be scrapped
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> Folks, An interesting item in the news today. The UK Government are considering abolishing road tax and fuel taxes, and replacing them with road charging by the mile, implemented by GPS. So, within 10 years, we could see mogas prices drop to around 20p a litre at current prices. Just in time for G-EZZA=92s first flight, I reckon! :-) With any luck they=92ll not cotton on to us fliers using it in the air =96 otherwise I can see them slapping us with an airspace charge :-( Cheers, Jeremy PS I=92ve experimentally changed my code page on this posting =96 so let=92s see if Matt=92s server changes all the punctuation marks to 9764476! Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member =93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.=94 Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms


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    Time: 04:41:24 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: First flight N284A
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> Yes, I did the first one myself and it was at DUNN Airport in Titusville, Florida. (X21) Dean -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: First flight N284A --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2005-06-04 16:40 -0400 Dean Seitz wrote: >Today at 02.00 pm I made the first flight on my Europa A284 -- N284A Dean - congratulations! Just a couple of queries for the record - I assume from what you say that you did the first flight yourself - is that correct? And at which airfield did the happy event take place, please? regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>


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    Time: 05:20:09 PM PST US
    From: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Belting for trailer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net> Someone posted about wing support belting from McMaster-Carr. I had a harddrive go south and lost the information. I found belting at their site, but don't remember the type recommended. Anyone lend any help? Thanks Jeff - N55XS Prop is in the mail...




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