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1. 02:41 AM - Test Message (Gerry Holland)
2. 04:51 AM - Transponder Antenna. (Mike Parkin)
3. 06:26 AM - Re: Transponder Antenna. (Paul McAllister)
4. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: Nosewheel bungee (R Holder)
5. 10:30 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous days too (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
6. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous days too (willie harrison)
7. 03:34 PM - Re: Question for all re construction sequence (SteveD)
8. 03:40 PM - Re: Question for all re construction sequence (SteveD)
9. 03:48 PM - Re: Transponder Antenna. (Jim Puglise)
10. 04:16 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous days too (SteveD)
11. 04:39 PM - Re: Transponder Antenna. (Paul McAllister)
12. 07:45 PM - Fuel Injected Rotaxs (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
13. 08:47 PM - Re: Fuel Injected Rotaxs (Paul McAllister)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
Test
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| Subject: | Transponder Antenna. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
For the electronics experts.
Is there any necessity or advantage to fitting 'baluns' on the coax cable to the
transponder antenna.
regards,
MP
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder Antenna. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Mike,
A transponder antenna is impedance matched to the transponder and does
require a matching device. The most important thing is to use high quality
low loss cable and keep it short as possible.
Paul
N378PJ - 230 hours and still grinning
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| Subject: | Re: Nosewheel bungee |
--> Europa-List message posted by: R Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
willie harrison wrote:
> Thanks, Gary. We get regulated quite tightly by our
> beloved (!) PFA in the UK and they can invalidate our
> Permit to Fly if we do a modification without their
> approval, although I do take your point. A heavy
> nosewheel landing is something you'd only really expect
> from a trainee pilot and no-one would train on a
> Europa.
>
> Several people have suggested cunning schemes to fit
> bungees and the one which appeals to me is to fit 7
> individual bands, each looped, tensioned and hooked
> separately. Although this is also a mod, it has been
> deemed a "non-modification-modification". Better than
> getting a hernia by hauling in 6 metres of extra
> strength knicker elastic...
My standard knicker (underpant to our US friends) elastic
has stood up OK for 2 1/2 years in my tri-gear.
But if it is really OK to go the Kevin "separate loops"
root without the involvement of the PFA then I would
certainly if (when) I need to go that way. As I read it it
was 5 (Five) separate loops not 7.
In addition to to almost certain (no - certain)
improvement in the ease of fitting there is another
advantage. If a loop softens or is damaged somehow, there
are still 4 working OK. Much better than the
all-or-nothing original design.
Richard Holder
G-OWWW #51 - High Cross
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous days |
too
06/10/2005 01:29:13 PM,
Serialize complete at 06/10/2005 01:29:13 PM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
OK, so I am being a boorish American.
In 2005, I don't think it's too much to ask that
people learn to use their E-mail software.
Yesterday Tim Weert appended an entire day's worth of messages
plus followups for no apparent reason.
Please be considerate of the hundreds of people on this list
by only including what is relevant.
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous |
days too
--> Europa-List message posted by: "willie harrison" <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
Hey, just find a small country to invade and you'll soon feel better...
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus
previous days too
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
OK, so I am being a boorish American.
In 2005, I don't think it's too much to ask that
people learn to use their E-mail software.
Yesterday Tim Weert appended an entire day's worth of messages
plus followups for no apparent reason.
Please be considerate of the hundreds of people on this list
by only including what is relevant.
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Question for all re construction sequence |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Ok George, here's the answer to two questions.
A) Yes, you can do things out of order. I rigged and set the wings with the top
not bonded on. Metal firewall completed months ago. Panel any time, I but I won't
hang the motor until the top is on. I'm afraid the canoe will bow.
and
2) I don't think anyone on the list answered you because they can't hear you, IE: Your on the EuropaOwners site but your not on the Matronics list server. I know it's a complicated concept, but what you read under Europa-list on EuropaOwners web site is a interactive copy of a entirely different site / way of communicating. You must subscribe to the europa-list on Matronics for everyone to read your messages. Go to http://www.matronics.com/subscription/ enter your email address in the box, (the same one you use on EuropaOwners) scroll down to europa-list and click subscribe.
D) Sent me an email off list and I can do it for you....
9) I've included your message body in my response, the list will see / receive
the email ( because my email address is list on Matronics ) and people who have
not been in the sun for 10 hours ( and pub for 3 ) should reply...
and finally on another topic, Go Ira! you tell em.
From: G&TPowell
Hi everyone:
This is a follow up to my earlier post. No one responded, possibly because I did
not phrase the subject as a question. Here it is:
I have a question about the sequence of construction.
I was one of the ones who got left high and dry by EMIL. I have the fuselage top
and bottom, accelerated cockpit module, and wings. I do not have my doors, glass,
accelerated tail kit (rudder, stabilators, and associated hardware) or my
flaps and ailerons (and associated hardware). New Europa has quoted me a price
to replace my missing parts, but it may be some time before I can come up with
the money to obtain the remainder of my kit.
What I would like to know is, is it a bad idea to start some of the work out of
sequence? Looking at the manual, it appears that I might be able to start around
Chapter 10T and go through Chapter 17, bonding in the cockpit module. Any
major problems with starting out this way?
I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions. Thanks to all for the useful advice
provided on these forums.
George Powell
N301GT
XS Tri-Gear
Kit A275
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| Subject: | RE: Question for all re construction sequence |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
George,
Thanks for the email, all will be fixed shortly....
Steved.
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| Subject: | Transponder Antenna. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" <jimpuglise@comcast.net>
Paul-
Did you mean to say is does (or does not) need matching? I will be
installing mine soon, so I need to get it straight in my own mind. I
thought the antennas were ground planes, which should be close to 52
ohms. I had thought the only issue was to use high quality cable
because the frequency is so high.
Jim Puglise
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
McAllister
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Transponder Antenna.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Mike,
A transponder antenna is impedance matched to the transponder and does
require a matching device. The most important thing is to use high
quality
low loss cable and keep it short as possible.
Paul
N378PJ - 230 hours and still grinning
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| Subject: | RE: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous days |
too
--> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Here's an excerpt worth posting again, hopefully some will read it this time. Look
the guys at Matronics put a lot of work, and money into this list. Please
respect their requests. Bits and baud is time and money.
Jos gives us the EuropaOwners site for free and it's huge! Try and rent a 50 to
100 gig site. Think before you click reply and send a digest or 18 Re:re:re:s.
Yes, it does cost someone something, and people footing the bill are your friends.
Steved.
WebMaster www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder Antenna. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Sorry, that was a typo.... I meant to say does not... that will teach me to
do email before my morning coffee....
> Paul-
>
> Did you mean to say is does (or does not) need matching? I will be
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Mike,
>
> A transponder antenna is impedance matched to the transponder and does
> require a matching device. The most important thing is to use high
> quality
> low loss cable and keep it short as possible.
>
> Paul
>
> N378PJ - 230 hours and still grinning
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| Subject: | Fuel Injected Rotaxs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Good evening All,
_www.rotaxking.com_ (http://www.rotaxking.com)
This item came up awhile back but I just now got a chance to check out the
website. Is this what people have been asking for? Anyone have any input as to
their way of installing their fuel injectors on a Rotax? The numbers sound
good. Also from what I read, they have Rotax engines, possibly from the US
Military, that are overhauled and have their fuel injector mod installed. And
check out the prices for their engines....$10K for a 912 and $14K for a 914.
I wish I was at a point in my build to have an aircraft they might think
about installing one of their engines in in order to get some real world
figures. I'd split the cost, or course. But I do live at the other end of
California, about an 8 hour drive. However I wouldn't mind living in the RV for
a
couple of weeks in Bakersfield testing these engines with them.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Installing the rudder, re enforcing the door sills,
still mulling over the trim motor installation,
and working on hanging the instrument module.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Injected Rotaxs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
After multiple tries I finally got the answers from the guy who is offering
the fuel injection system.
- The fuel injection full kit is $2200.00
- It does not have knock sensors but they are available as an option
- The redundancy is two separate computers, 4 separate injectors, and 2
separate map sensors.
- New lower profile injects are under development. (I suspect the current
ones will not fit under the Europa cowling)
He did not answer my question on how many units are in service despite me
asking twice.
Paul
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