---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/11/05: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:42 AM - 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous,days too (Graham Singleton) 2. 04:07 AM - Visit to the U.K. () 3. 04:44 AM - Batteries-Cold Starts (Tim Ward) 4. 05:04 AM - Re: Visit to the U.K. (Gerry Holland) 5. 05:39 AM - Re: Fuel Injected Rotaxs (Bill Henderson) 6. 05:39 AM - Re: Visit to the U.K. (Alan Burrows) 7. 05:57 AM - Re: Fuel Injected Rotaxs (KARL HEINDL) 8. 06:09 AM - Re: Batteries-Cold Starts (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter) 9. 06:17 AM - N166BB For Sale (Robert Berube) 10. 06:32 AM - Re: Visit to the U.K. (Gerry Holland) 11. 08:34 AM - Re: Visit to the U.K. (Paddy Clarke) 12. 08:54 AM - Re: Visit to the U.K. (David Hillam) 13. 09:47 AM - Re: Fuel Injected Rotaxs (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 14. 10:54 AM - Tailwheel Mod Adjustments (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 15. 01:40 PM - Re: Tailwheel Mod Adjustments (DvdPar@aol.com) 16. 04:02 PM - Re: Visit to the U.K. (Houlihan,Tim) 17. 10:12 PM - Re: Visit to the U.K. (Gerry Holland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:10 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: 9 Msgs - 06/09/05 plus previous,days too --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton From: "willie harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: --> Europa-List message posted by: "willie harrison" Hey, just find a small country to invade and you'll soon feel better... - OK, so I am being a boorish American. In 2005, I don't think it's too much to ask that people learn to use their E-mail software. Please be considerate of the hundreds of people on this list by only including what is relevant. Ira N224XS Willie if you don't mind, I agree with Ira.It's not only a bore to have to scroll through a big pile, it messes up Matt's system too Graham ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:18 AM PST US From: Subject: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. --> Europa-List message posted by: Hello Gents, Any suggestions for a good airport to visit on Sat June 18 where I can get a dose of Europa(s)? Say, within 90 minutes of the London area? Thanks Cleve Lee A198 Europa XS Monowheel Detroit, MI ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:44:37 AM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Europa-List: Batteries-Cold Starts 0.00 HTML_NONELEMENT_00_10 BODY: 0% to 10% of HTML elements are non-standard --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" Hi Europaeans, Thinking of installing a Concorde RG battery for my Rotax 912S due to the cold weather starts, downunder. Can anybody recommend what species of RG batteries has worked well for them? Can not install the more powerful starter due to being a Monowheel classic. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Cleve Hi! > Any suggestions for a good airport to visit on Sat June 18 where I can get a > dose of Europa(s)? Say, within 90 minutes of the London area? I can offer an Itinerary to put on your list: Take Train from Paddington Station, London to Chippenham. It's about 1 hour 15 mins. Trains every 1/2 hour. Some luck is involved with the timing as this is the UK railway system! It's normally OK. From there I could pick you up and drive to Kemble Airfield (ex-RAF) where there is normally a real nestful of Europa's based or being worked on. It's also the venue for our PFA Rally two weeks later. That takes about 20 mins. After a suitable lunch and with an invitation from Paddy Clarke we could visit his very nice Europa Monowheel based about 30 minutes away at Wadswick Airstrip, Near Bath. Who knows he may need to get airborne that day too! Other options could be added top that as time allows. Kindest Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:25 AM PST US From: "Bill Henderson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Injected Rotaxs --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" Look at the engines closely that they are selling. I think as you said they are military (out of the Predator). The ones they are selling on Ebay wouldn't do us much good. The turbo is on the top of the engine. From the looks of it you'd have to spend quite a lot to get the exaust, turbo, etc. in the right configuration. It is interesting though.... Maybe they'll fit a "normal" engine in the future that we can use with the Europa. Bill A010 (Atlanta) 10 years now and still plugging. Just got a used Classic engine mount from Nigel and I've convinced the better half to let me start saving up for the engine. Some day....... ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:26 AM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" How about a DOTH to Kemble on that Saturday Gerry ? Alan ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:48 AM PST US From: "KARL HEINDL" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Injected Rotaxs --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" do not archive you might as well flush your $ 2200 down the toilet. Would save you a lot of hassle. Cheers, Karl >From: "Paul McAllister" >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Injected Rotaxs >Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 22:46:21 -0500 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > >Hi all, > >After multiple tries I finally got the answers from the guy who is offering >the fuel injection system. > >- The fuel injection full kit is $2200.00 >- It does not have knock sensors but they are available as an option >- The redundancy is two separate computers, 4 separate injectors, and 2 >separate map sensors. >- New lower profile injects are under development. (I suspect the current >ones will not fit under the Europa cowling) > >He did not answer my question on how many units are in service despite me >asking twice. > >Paul > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:48 AM PST US From: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter Subject: Re: Europa-List: Batteries-Cold Starts --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter Hi Tim, I have been hearing positive comments about the Odyssey PC680 battery. I got one from: _www.batterymart.com_ for my yet to fly 914 mono xs. We have a subaru legacy wagon that needed a new battery, so I installed the PC680. It is performing well in the subaru. I plan to put a fresh battery in the Europa every two years because it is electricaly dependant. I 'll put the used one in the subaru and maybe my toyota truck. Kevin Klinefelter N211KA color sanding my amature paint job entire electrical system yet to go Tim Ward wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" > >Hi Europaeans, >Thinking of installing a Concorde RG battery for my Rotax 912S due to the cold weather starts, downunder. Can anybody recommend what species of RG batteries has worked well for them? > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:17:31 AM PST US From: "Robert Berube" Subject: Europa-List: N166BB For Sale --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" Europa Group, Some of you may recall about a year ago I listed my Europa Conventional Taildragger for sale and did sell it but it was not delivered and remained in my hangar flown periodically. This week the owner came to fly it home but the weather was not cooperating. As we pondered the situation, he became more and more enamored by the RV series aircraft that we have at our shop along with the multitude of Europa's. To make a long story short, he has elected to have us assist him in building an RV-10 and listing the Europa for sale. Anyone interested, can contact me off list for details and photos. Photos will be on the Flight Crafters web site soon. Bob Berube N166BB Conventional Taildragger Flight Crafters ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Alan Hi! > How about a DOTH to Kemble on that Saturday Gerry ? Great idea! We have a few days for a roll call. Lets see how it musters. Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:56 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Re: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke Hi All, Indeed a good idea, tho' that is the departure day for David Joyces Tour de France, so a few of us won't be able to make it. ( unless we're grounded by the weather and drive in !) Cheers > > Great idea! > > We have a few days for a roll call. > Lets see how it musters. > > Regards > > Gerry > > Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:22 AM PST US From: "David Hillam" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Hillam" Is that Saturday (June 18) not the date for the Europa fly-out to France, starting from Kemble? I will probably be there to do my Mod 70 (if not done beforehand), in time for the Annual due the following week. Then, two weeks later I will, reluctantly, be putting it on the line of planes for sale at Flying for Fun. David G-SHSH (Classic Mono) > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland > > Alan Hi! > > > How about a DOTH to Kemble on that Saturday Gerry ? > > Great idea! > > We have a few days for a roll call. > Lets see how it musters. > > Regards > > Gerry > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:11 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Injected Rotaxs --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Karl, And the reasoning behind your statement? Do Not Archive Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Installing the rudder, re enforcing the door sills, still mulling over the trim motor installation, and working on hanging the instrument module. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:54:28 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel Mod Adjustments --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good day All, I've just temporarily attached the rudder and installed the pushrod to the Singleton Tailwheel Mod. At maximum deflection, I can only get the rudder to achieve about 28 degrees to either side of center. I've looked through the Forum archive but have drawn a blank about further adjustments to get the called for 30 degrees +2/-0. Should I adjust the rudder cables from the foot pedals to increase travel? Before doing this I wanted to ask those that have already accomplished this. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Installing the rudder, re enforcing the door sills, still mulling over the trim motor installation, and working on hanging the instrument module. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:40:09 PM PST US From: DvdPar@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel Mod Adjustments --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com I came down a thickness on the Singleton incorporated rudder stop bushes! Regards, Dave Park Manchester UK ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:20 PM PST US From: "Houlihan,Tim" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Houlihan,Tim" Hi Gerry I hope to be at Kemble that day, but be advised that Kemble has a major air show on Sunday the 19th and display arrivals (and display practice ) will be taking place on the Saturday. We should still be ok for normal operations if you don't mind mixing it with Tornado's and F16's etc Tim Houlihan G BZTH (based at Kemble ) mod 70 still to be done !! -----Original Message----- We have a few days for a roll call. Lets see how it musters. Regards Gerry ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Visit to the U.K. From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Tim Hi! > I hope to be at Kemble that day, but be advised that Kemble has a major air > show on Sunday the 19th and display arrivals (and display practice ) will be > taking place on the Saturday. Many Thanks for the local update. Cleve.... It will be worth you bringing your Passport with you as we will probably have to register as visitors and show proof of identity. Take a look: http://www.kemble.com/ Regards Gerry