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1. 05:03 AM - Noise Statement wanted (Sven den Boer)
2. 05:12 AM - Re: Setting wing incidence (William Daniell)
3. 09:32 AM - Re: Noise Statement wanted (R.C.Harrison)
4. 09:32 AM - FW: Noise Statement wanted (R.C.Harrison)
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| Subject: | Noise Statement wanted |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
All,
Dutch CAA/FAA is requesting an official noise statement for my aircraft.
Noise Statement from Europa club is not recognized and the penalty is in NL,
same landing charges as a Piper 28.(!@#%$!*)
2 possibilities to counter this:
A: Get a noise measuremnt by an approved organisation/company
B: Get a copy of an official Noise Statement from one of the EASA/JAR
countries or the US/Canada.
It needs to be a stament from a similar type of aircraft, in this case:
Europa XS
Rotax 912S engine
Warpdrive prop
Who can help me out?
Mail or fax your noisestatement, eternal greatfullnes will be your reward.
Best Regards,
Sven den Boer
PH-SBR
fax: 084-7377223
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| Subject: | Setting wing incidence |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
Stephan,
Read Baa Baa blacksheep by Pappy Boyington - a marine pilot in WW2. He used
to drink in the evening wake up with a hang over and then fly. He got bored
of this so he put together an "autopilot" made of rubber bands and string
which enabled him to doze "tapping" the stick from time to time to keep
straight and level...
Is Tony's string something like this (without the hangover)?
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephan Cassel
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Setting wing incidence
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Stephan Cassel" <cassel@sensewave.com>
Hi Will,
This is my approach as well: Wait and see.
I think Tony Krzyzewski has tested a simple string attachment to the
control-stick in order to trim. According to my memories it worked very
well.
Stephan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Daniell
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Setting wing incidence
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Daniell"
<wdaniell@etb.net.co>
Mike,
Thanks - I think (not sure yet) I am planning to get everything together
and
flying and then, only if necessary fit a trim.
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
DuaneFamly@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Setting wing incidence
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Hey Will,
I'll be interested in people's response as to right or left wing. Many
have
put it on the left so they can have a visual on it. But I think it
should be
on the right to that the smooth portion of the trim tab raises up into
the
airflow as opposed to the left wing where the linkage side of the trim
tab
lowers into the airflow.
As for servo info, mine is an MAC S9 Trim System from Menzimer Aircraft
for
about $180. But their website has expired so you might want to check
Aircraft
Spruce for their RAC Electric Trim Servos. They look identical. There
are
also pix in the Europa Forum from those that have already done it.
Good luck.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Installing the rudder, re enforcing the door sills,
still mulling over the trim motor installation,
and working on hanging the instrument module.
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| Subject: | Noise Statement wanted |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Sven
I have an MT Propellers produced Noise Cert produced as a result of
thorough tests taken by them on my Jabiru 3300 powered Europa Trike with
their 3 blade CS Propeller. The German Inspector I submitted to at
Munchen Osnabrook only accepted it "under protest " since he said it
should be produced or validated by the British CAA being a UK
registration. I only this morning contacted a Junior rank woman in the
CAA who started off by saying it would probably require a UK conducted
test for the CAA to provide the validation.! This stinks of "jobs for
the boys " culture and I feel you should establish just what the Dutch
CAA will accept prior to getting in any deeper !
I will be making lots of loud noises if having flown to Straubing and
spent three days getting the necessary tests done, having a German
Certificate made by a German Manufacturer only to find it is bloody
worthless here in the UK or for that matter anywhere else !!!??
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sven den
Boer
Subject: Europa-List: Noise Statement wanted
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer"
<svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
All,
Dutch CAA/FAA is requesting an official noise statement for my aircraft.
Noise Statement from Europa club is not recognized and the penalty is in
NL,
same landing charges as a Piper 28.(!@#%$!*)
2 possibilities to counter this:
A: Get a noise measuremnt by an approved organisation/company
B: Get a copy of an official Noise Statement from one of the EASA/JAR
countries or the US/Canada.
It needs to be a stament from a similar type of aircraft, in this case:
Europa XS
Rotax 912S engine
Warpdrive prop
Who can help me out?
Mail or fax your noisestatement, eternal greatfullnes will be your
reward.
Best Regards,
Sven den Boer
PH-SBR
fax: 084-7377223
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| Subject: | Noise Statement wanted |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Sven
I have an MT Propellers produced Noise Cert produced as a result of
thorough tests taken by them on my Jabiru 3300 powered Europa Trike with
their 3 blade CS Propeller. The German Inspector I submitted to at
Munchen Osnabrook only accepted it "under protest " since he said it
should be produced or validated by the British CAA being a UK
registration. I only this morning contacted a Junior rank woman in the
CAA who started off by saying it would probably require a UK conducted
test for the CAA to provide the validation.! This stinks of "jobs for
the boys " culture and I feel you should establish just what the Dutch
CAA will accept prior to getting in any deeper !
I will be making lots of loud noises if having flown to Straubing and
spent three days getting the necessary tests done, having a German
Certificate made by a German Manufacturer only to find it is bloody
worthless here in the UK or for that matter anywhere else !!!??
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sven den
Boer
Subject: Europa-List: Noise Statement wanted
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer"
<svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
All,
Dutch CAA/FAA is requesting an official noise statement for my aircraft.
Noise Statement from Europa club is not recognized and the penalty is in
NL,
same landing charges as a Piper 28.(!@#%$!*)
2 possibilities to counter this:
A: Get a noise measuremnt by an approved organisation/company
B: Get a copy of an official Noise Statement from one of the EASA/JAR
countries or the US/Canada.
It needs to be a stament from a similar type of aircraft, in this case:
Europa XS
Rotax 912S engine
Warpdrive prop
Who can help me out?
Mail or fax your noisestatement, eternal greatfullnes will be your
reward.
Best Regards,
Sven den Boer
PH-SBR
fax: 084-7377223
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