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1. 01:12 AM - paul artusa bad address (Rowland Carson)
2. 02:30 AM - Re: engines (Duncan McFadyean)
3. 05:32 AM - Re: I.O.M. Festival of Aviation (Alan Burrows)
4. 07:36 AM - Re: I.O.M. Festival of Aviation (R.C.Harrison)
5. 11:55 AM - Brake Fluid (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter)
6. 02:49 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (N55XS)
7. 03:44 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (Paul McAllister)
8. 04:24 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (Jeremy Davey)
9. 04:44 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (Cliff Shaw)
10. 08:48 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter)
11. 09:35 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (Cliff Shaw)
12. 11:45 PM - Re: Brake Fluid (Richard Iddon)
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Subject: | paul artusa bad address |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Paul Artusa sent me an e-mail requesting Europa Club information.
Unfortunately the message has bounced with the following error
message:
At 2005-08-06 00:39 +0100 Mail Delivery System wrote:
>A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
> pauly_poo@sbcglobal.net
> SMTP error from remote mailer after MAIL
>FROM:<europa-club@rowil.clara.net>:
> host sbcmx2.prodigy.net [207.115.20.21]: 451 4.7.7 Excessive
>userid unknowns from 80.168.70.141:
> retry timeout exceeded
If Paul is here on the list, can he please get in touch with me using
a working e-mail address so I can send him the info he requested,
please.
regards
Rowland
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| Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I don't think either the price or the dealer's mark-up will necessarily
reflect intrinsic value or value-for-money. It also depends on the
fitness-for-purpose of the design (and how it integrates with the design of
the specific aircraft), the efficiency with which the manufacturer executes
the design (CNC and low volume output cannot compete with high volume
traditional methods) and the manufacture's margin.
Then there's the question about whether the engine is priced for the market
or bench-marked against the market leader.
Of course, this same debate is well documented in the archives; so no point
in being drawn to further repeat it here. Except that the most important
aspect of an aero engine is again absent from the discussion (reliability).
Duncan Mcf.
> Could you post exact numbers regarding relative margins?
> Especially on the Rotax 914 -- not MSRP, but how much must
> they have to accept or they're not selling very many. I
> don't know enough about the 3300 to oppose it for any
> reason. Just tryin' to urge conclusions be taken a couple
> steps back to actual data, should this help a builder
> choose. Obviously if in buying a Rotax, much of our cost is
> reseller profit, the 3300 may have more intrinsic value.
> That's why big SUV's are relatively bad buys.
>
> Fred F.
>
>
>
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Subject: | I.O.M. Festival of Aviation |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
To all those coming to the air festival tomorrow(Sunday) I suggest you
get there before 11.15am as they close the field for the airshow around
that time as I just found out when I was about to fly up this morning..!
Europa BBQ is planned for noon so see you all there.
Cheers
Alan
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Subject: | I.O.M. Festival of Aviation |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Alan.... yes the instructions do warn to that effect. Just replying so
you know the message went out OK.
Bob H G-PTAG
Do not archive...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Subject: RE: Europa-List: I.O.M. Festival of Aviation
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
To all those coming to the air festival tomorrow(Sunday) I suggest you
get there before 11.15am as they close the field for the airshow around
that time as I just found out when I was about to fly up this morning..!
Europa BBQ is planned for noon so see you all there.
Cheers
Alan
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
Hi All,
Doing some final assembly, finally.
Monowheel with a Matco parking brake. What type of brake fluid is best?
Kevin, N211KA
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--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
Some may disagree, but I've switched to DOT 5 (Silicon) with no gripes...
Jeff - N55XS
13.6 hr down, 26.4 to go...
Kevin And Ann Klinefelter wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
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>Hi All,
>
>Doing some final assembly, finally.
>Monowheel with a Matco parking brake. What type of brake fluid is best?
>
>Kevin, N211KA
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Kevin, I used DOT 5 Silicone and it was worked fine for the 18 months I have
been flying, Paul
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Paul.
You've been flying yours for 18 months now???? Time flies, too, it seems!
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1400 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Brake Fluid
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Kevin, I used DOT 5 Silicone and it was worked fine for the 18 months I have
been flying, Paul
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
DOT 5 will work with any type of brake seals. It also is not bad for the pain
if you spill of have a leak. It is what I use.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:53 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Brake Fluid
--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
Hi All,
Doing some final assembly, finally.
Monowheel with a Matco parking brake. What type of brake fluid is best?
Kevin, N211KA
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
Thanks for all the responses guys...
DOT 5 it is!
Now if I can just find something to pump the fluid in with from the
bottom up to the top...then you don't get air in the line, I hear.
What works well to pump the fluid uphill?
Kevin
Cliff Shaw wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
>
>DOT 5 will work with any type of brake seals. It also is not bad for the pain
if you spill of have a leak. It is what I use.
>
>Cliff Shaw
>1041 Euclid ave.
>Edmonds, WA 98020
>425 776 5555
>http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:53 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Brake Fluid
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Doing some final assembly, finally.
> Monowheel with a Matco parking brake. What type of brake fluid is best?
>
> Kevin, N211KA
>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
I use a big plastic syringe. I fit a short piece of tubing to it and just squirt
it in and then shut off the fitting, reload and do it allover again.
Cliff
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
Kevin.
I have had a lot of problems bleeding my tri gear finger brakes and have
ended up using a kit from an automotive shop. Can't remember the name
but you fill a bottle with brake fluid and connect this to the top of
the master cylinder then pressurise the bottle with a foot pump. You can
then simply crack the bleed screws one at a time and the pressure pushes
all the air out whilst maintaining fluid in the master cylinder. Very
simple one man operation.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
Thanks for all the responses guys...
DOT 5 it is!
Now if I can just find something to pump the fluid in with from the
bottom up to the top...then you don't get air in the line, I hear.
What works well to pump the fluid uphill?
Kevin
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