---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/18/05: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:44 AM - Re: Exhaust Stain Remover (willie harrison) 2. 02:08 AM - Re: Exhaust Stain Remover (Jeremy Davey) 3. 03:19 AM - Flight Bag for Sale (Alan Burrows) 4. 03:50 AM - Re: Exhaust Stain Remover (willie harrison) 5. 07:59 AM - Re: Exhaust Stain Remover (Cliff Shaw) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:58 AM PST US From: "willie harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Exhaust Stain Remover --> Europa-List message posted by: "willie harrison" How extensively does anyone else's aircraft get stained by exhaust? Mine picks up a pale beige streak going almost to the trailing edge of the wing, including a covering of the inboard flap hinge cover. It seems to come off with water and a sponge however. On a related topic, the fuselage in that area was seriously heat damaged soon after I got the aircraft by a combination of, a) misaligned exhaust stub (pointing straight back), b) sideslipping under power (to descend fast from altitude without over cooling the engine). Pretty dim, really, but someone out there might still learn from this. Willie Harrison (G-BZNY) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:06 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Exhaust Stain Remover --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Willie, Out of interest, what's your engine? The reason I ask is that I thought one of the quoted advantages of the Rotax is that the water-cooled heads mean there is no shock-cooling issue to worry about. Kind regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of willie harrison Subject: RE: Europa-List: Exhaust Stain Remover --> Europa-List message posted by: "willie harrison" How extensively does anyone else's aircraft get stained by exhaust? Mine picks up a pale beige streak going almost to the trailing edge of the wing, including a covering of the inboard flap hinge cover. It seems to come off with water and a sponge however. On a related topic, the fuselage in that area was seriously heat damaged soon after I got the aircraft by a combination of, a) misaligned exhaust stub (pointing straight back), b) sideslipping under power (to descend fast from altitude without over cooling the engine). Pretty dim, really, but someone out there might still learn from this. Willie Harrison (G-BZNY) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:21 AM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: Europa-List: Flight Bag for Sale --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" Hello All Sorry this is slightly off subject, but I have a new unused Jeppeson flight bag for sale if anyone is interested. It's the big one with lots of pockets and detachable headset bags each end, so you can carry both your headsets with you. I am looking for 40 ukp for it. They are in the catalogues for about 90ukp. If it is of interest to anyone, contact me off line at alan@kestrel-insurance.com Cheers Alan ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:56 AM PST US From: "willie harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Exhaust Stain Remover --> Europa-List message posted by: "willie harrison" Jeremy It's a 912S. You're right that the liquid cooled engine should be more robust with shock cooling than an air cooled engine. However, there's still a minimum posted temperature limit and on a freezing January day descending from 10,000 feet (Avgas, of course) the temps were falling off the bottom of the scale with the engine at idle. If I want to sideslip for any reason now, though generally I avoid it, I do it yawed to port so that the exhaust gas (hopefully) is flushed away by the wake and not aimed at the fuselage. Also, I have pinned the exhaust stub so that it is not free to swivel back in case the clamp comes loose. Happy Landings! Willie ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:56 AM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Exhaust Stain Remover --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Willie I have seen this light gray haze after burning 100LL too. I thought it was the lead in the gas. Back when I was first flying there was some black stains from the exhaust too. I have not seen that kind of exhaust for the last 50 hours though. The exhaust gasses will damage the fus and / or cowling if the muffler comes loose. Be very careful to get it fitting correctly. The first muffler I got with my kit was not built the same as the replacement I bought last winter. The new one has worked with out a single problem. The inlet port on the new muffler are a little further apart foe and aft. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE --> Europa-List message posted by: "willie harrison" How extensively does anyone else's aircraft get stained by exhaust?