Europa-List Digest Archive

Thu 09/01/05


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 05:17 AM - Rotax 914 (ivor.phillips)
     2. 06:45 AM - Oil Temperature again ()
     3. 07:59 AM - Re: Oil Temperature again (Houlihan,Tim)
     4. 08:13 AM - Re: Oil Temperature again (Jack Heijboer)
     5. 12:09 PM - XS Monowheel fuel line/stainless penetrations (Ronald J. Parigoris)
     6. 12:48 PM - another useful web site (Richard Iddon)
     7. 06:40 PM - NSI...Has it been sold? (Steve Crimm)
     8. 08:13 PM - ???? Old Age (Steve Crimm)
     9. 09:52 PM - Re: ???? Old Age (Jacques.POINT@total.com)
    10. 10:45 PM - Re: ???? Old Age (David DeFord)
    11. 11:47 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:17:16 AM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Rotax 914
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> This might be of interest to somebody contemplating buying a rotax 914, Spotted on Ebay this Morning http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item8330708294&ssPageNameADME:B:EF:US:1 Could be a good buy!!!! Ivor Phillips XS486 London UK CM Installed, rudder cables complete, undercarriage fitted brakes working flap tube fitted wing lift pins fitted,tie bar fitted instrument panel being finalised,


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    Time: 06:45:55 AM PST US
    From: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Oil Temperature again
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> We are still experiencing exceedingly high oil temps on G-MFHI (they would rise about 140 if we didnt throttle back). CHT seems a little high at 115 to. Ive tried blocking the bottom of the cowl out to give better airflow. I spoke to David Hunter today who suggested moving the oil cooler from behind the Port Rad (HI is a Classic) to the lower cowl, just below the spinner. Has anyone else experienced these kind of temperatures? Has anyone moved the cooler on a classic if so, was it successful? If so, did the mod go through the PFA? Any photos / drawings would be fantastic. Probably a bit of a dumb question but, Ill ask anyway could the fact that the prop is set very course (about 18 degrees) be loading the engine too much and hence, thats why its running so hot. Thanks in anticipation Peter ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information


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    Time: 07:59:10 AM PST US
    From: "Houlihan,Tim" <tim.houlihan@oce.co.uk>
    Subject: Oil Temperature again
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Houlihan,Tim" <tim.houlihan@oce.co.uk> Hi Peter What coolant are you using ? Earlier this year I changed to the mandatory waterless coolant and at the same time I upgraded to a constant speed prop. I noticed a real problem with oil and water temps. after taking advise I changed back to water /glycol mix and my problems went away and the temps returned to their original readings. I have a classic with the oil radiator in the standard position behind the port water radiator. regards Tim Houlihan G-BZTH -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of peter.rees05@ntlworld.com Subject: Europa-List: Oil Temperature again --> Europa-List message posted by: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> We are still experiencing exceedingly high oil temps on G-MFHI (they would rise about 140 if we didnt throttle back). CHT seems a little high at 115 to. Ive tried blocking the bottom of the cowl out to give better airflow. I spoke to David Hunter today who suggested moving the oil cooler from behind the Port Rad (HI is a Classic) to the lower cowl, just below the spinner. Has anyone else experienced these kind of temperatures? Has anyone moved the cooler on a classic if so, was it successful? If so, did the mod go through the PFA? Any photos / drawings would be fantastic. Probably a bit of a dumb question but, Ill ask anyway could the fact that the prop is set very course (about 18 degrees) be loading the engine too much and hence, thats why its running so hot. Thanks in anticipation Peter ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information


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    Time: 08:13:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Oil Temperature again
    From: "Jack Heijboer" <j.heijboer@vmij.nl>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jack Heijboer" <j.heijboer@vmij.nl> Peter, Europa XS PH-JGW - 110 Hours -Rotax 914- Synthetic oil- Oil change every 25 hours, used oil goes into the family cars - Airmaster prop - Yesterday we did our testing for a % $% & noise certificate, lots of runs at various RPM's, OAT was 26 Celsius. I run a 914 and have always experienced high CHT. I lowered the oil cooler from behind the radiator. Max. CHT yesterday 121 degr.C and my oil temp was 85 degr.C. I used to be very worried with these CHT temps,I have seen 130 degr.C in France on take off on a very hot day OAT 31 degr. now with the new Evans coolant I feel pretty relaxed. I suggest you change the position of the oil cooler if this worries you, yr oil temp is still acceptable, more important is the coolant. Fly safely Jack -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]Namens peter.rees05@ntlworld.com Verzonden: donderdag 1 september 2005 15:41 Aan: europa-list@matronics.com Onderwerp: Europa-List: Oil Temperature again --> Europa-List message posted by: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> We are still experiencing exceedingly high oil temps on G-MFHI (they would rise about 140 if we didnt throttle back). CHT seems a little high at 115 to. Ive tried blocking the bottom of the cowl out to give better airflow. I spoke to David Hunter today who suggested moving the oil cooler from behind the Port Rad (HI is a Classic) to the lower cowl, just below the spinner. Has anyone else experienced these kind of temperatures? Has anyone moved the cooler on a classic if so, was it successful? If so, did the mod go through the PFA? Any photos / drawings would be fantastic. Probably a bit of a dumb question but, Ill ask anyway could the fact that the prop is set very course (about 18 degrees) be loading the engine too much and hence, thats why its running so hot. Thanks in anticipation Peter ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information


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    Time: 12:09:54 PM PST US
    From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: XS Monowheel fuel line/stainless penetrations
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> The 914 manual calls for 2 fuel lines to penetrate stainless firewall bout 4 inches down from top of tunnel on XS Monowheel. Since you want to be able to remove the firewall with all mounts and motor in place, keep a reasonable firewall integrity, and not cut your fuel lines with the sharp stainless, what have others done for this penetration? I am using stainless mesh covered fuel line for to and from lines. Thx. Ron Parigoris N4211W A-265 XS Monowheel 914


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    Time: 12:48:56 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
    Subject: another useful web site
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com> I recently found this web site. Useful for pilots looking for info on airfields in UK and throughout Europe. http://avia-dejavu.net/europl.htm Richard Iddon G-RIXS


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    Time: 06:40:03 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    Subject: NSI...Has it been sold?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> Does any one have any further information concerning NSI being sold? Steve Crimm N15JN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gavin Stewart" <Gavin@gavstew.flyer.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/23/05 I sent my Warpdrive prop blades to NSI for mandatory mod in June via Matthew Russel who is doing a tri gear conversion. NSI advised in July That the blades would be dispatched on 5th.August, however a call a few days Ago revealed that NSI haS been sold and it's staff, or at least Heather on switchboard, have been sacked. Does anyone have any info on this, particularly identity and record of new owners? Regards, Gavin Stewart G-BWZT


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    Time: 08:13:08 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    Subject: ???? Old Age
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> A couple of weeks ago I was on one of the Europa related sites and there was a picture of a Canadian Europa with special fairings that almost covered the main gear when retracted. The problem is I can't remember who owned the aircraft or where the picture is located. If anyone knows please send me the link. Thanks, Steve Crimm N15JN


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    Time: 09:52:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: ???? Old Age
    From: Jacques.POINT@total.com
    14, 2004) at 09/02/2005 06:47:56 AM, Serialize complete at 09/02/2005 06:47:56 AM, Itemize by SMTP Server on XFRPAR-HE03/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 02/09/2005 06:47:56, Serialize by Router on XFRPAR-HE03/GROUP/Corp(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 02/09/2005 06:47:57, Serialize complete at 02/09/2005 06:47:57 --> Europa-List message posted by: Jacques.POINT@total.com Hi Steve, I have noticed similar arrangement few weeks ago in the RSA fly-in in France. The fairing was attached to the mono-wheel swinging arm, covering almost 3/4 of the visible part of the wheel. Unfortunately I do not remember registration of the bird. Jacques POINT "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 09/02/2005 07:37 AM Please respond to europa-list To: <europa-list@matronics.com> cc: Subject: Europa-List: ???? Old Age --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> A couple of weeks ago I was on one of the Europa related sites and there was a picture of a Canadian Europa with special fairings that almost covered the main gear when retracted. The problem is I can't remember who owned the aircraft or where the picture is located. If anyone knows please send me the link. Thanks, Steve Crimm N15JN


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    Time: 10:45:52 PM PST US
    From: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net>
    Subject: ???? Old Age
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net> > A couple of weeks ago I was on one of the Europa related > sites and there was a picture of a Canadian Europa with > special fairings that almost covered the main gear when > retracted. The problem is I can't remember who owned the > aircraft or where the picture is located. If anyone knows > please send me the link. > > Thanks, > > Steve Crimm > N15JN Perhaps you were looking at Alex Bowman's unique Europa, powered by a Honda engine. It's not just a special fairing, but a whole custom cowl to go with the engine. You can see pictures at http://www.firewall.ca/Europa.html. Dave DeFord


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    Time: 11:47:37 PM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
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