Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 09/10/05


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:13 AM - Re: Annual Inspection Check List (Bob Fairall)
     2. 07:47 AM - Re: Annual Inspection Check List (SteveD)
     3. 10:36 AM - Re: Annual Inspection Check List (SteveD)
     4. 11:21 AM - Re: Annual Inspection Check List (Paul McAllister)
     5. 02:53 PM - Al tubing techniques (Jeremy Davey)
     6. 03:31 PM - Re: Al tubing techniques (Cliff Shaw)
     7. 03:53 PM - Re: torque tube pins (Graham Singleton)
     8. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: Annual Inspection Check List (Garry)
     9. 09:44 PM - Re: Re: Annual Inspection Check List (DuaneFamly@AOL.COM)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:13:31 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Fairall" <b_fairall@fairalls.co.uk>
    Subject: Annual Inspection Check List
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Fairall" <b_fairall@fairalls.co.uk> Hi Paul, Attached is the list I've developed over a few years. PLEASE NOTE IT IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE AND EFFECTIVELY ONLY A STARTING POINT - and consider it to have every disclaimer known to mankind attached to it! Please also note that almost every time I use it, I add one more items to it ..... If you do your maintenance away from your workshop (usually I do mine at my workshop at home, but occasionally at the airfield), I've found it handy to draw up a list of tools and other items needed. This is simply because on the first occasion I loaded up so many tools the car would barely move, and on the next occasion I took the bare minimum and then spent more time driving to and fro from airfield to workshop than working on the 'plane, picking up those many items I'd forgotten to bring with me! ........ but I'm a durbrain so this may not apply to anyone else. Bob Fairall 71 & 494 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Subject: Europa-List: Annual Inspection Check List --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, Has anyone prepared a formal check list that they work through for their annual condition inspection ? If so could you forward me a copy. Thanks, Paul


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    Time: 07:47:05 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Annual Inspection Check List
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Hi Bob, The Email list server has removed your attachment. You can post it for posterity in Document storage on EuropaOwners. Or if you register on EuropaOwners with the same email as you use for the email list. You can post your attachment under Europa-List and everyone on the email list will get your email with a link to you document. Or you can send it to me off list and I'll post it for everyone, if you like... Chat Later, SteveD ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 10:36:16 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: Annual Inspection Check List
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Thanks Bob, the check list is attached..... SteveD ---------------- This Email contains Photos or Attachments located at the following link: http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=7379#7379 ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 11:21:02 AM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: Annual Inspection Check List
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Thanks you to everyone who responded with copies of their Annual Inspection Check lists. - Paul do not archive


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    Time: 02:53:26 PM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
    Subject: Al tubing techniques
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> I=92m just starting to (finally) fit the Al tubing for my fuel system, and would appreciate some advice on techniques. 1) Flaring the tubing =96 how much should the tubing be proud of the flaring tool before I start? 2) Flaring again =96 the flaring tool has circumferential rings that hold the tubing, but also mark it badly. I thought that marks on Al tubing are bad. Any tips here? 3) NPT fittings =96 the problem I have here is with the angle fittings. What do I do if the fitting goes tight just after the point where it is pointing the way I need? Is it OK to crank these fittings almost another entire turn? 4) Any other tips? Any help that folks who=92ve been there, done that, can offer would be much appreciated! Cheers, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member =93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.=94 Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms


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    Time: 03:31:35 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Al tubing techniques
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Jeremy It is good to hear that you have gotten back to work. :) The tubing will need to be just a tiny bit proud when you start. The stretching and bending it goes through will get it to fit flush to the flare tool nicely. A drop of oil will make it easier on the tubing too. The rings that the clamping side make will be OK. I can't even see them now on my tubing. The direction the Elbow points is always a problem. With the use of a good Gasoline proof pipe thread you should be able to stop at the proper angel with not over tightening the fittings. Remember the fuel pressure is only about 5 psi at the max. Hope this helps. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE PS The landing light worked very well for taxiing Wednesday night. We are flying every chance I get. Betty love flying with me. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeremy Davey To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Europa-List: Al tubing techniques --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com> would appreciate some advice on techniques. 1) Flaring the tubing 96 how much should the tubing be proud of the flaring tool before I start? 2) Flaring again 96 the flaring tool has circumferential rings that hold the tubing, but also mark it badly. I thought that marks on Al tubing are bad. Any tips here? 3) NPT fittings 96 the problem I have here is with the angle fittings. What do I do if the fitting goes tight just after the point where it is pointing the way I need? Is it OK to crank these fittings almost another entire turn? 4) Any other tips? Any help that folks who92ve been there, done that, can offer would be much appreciated! Cheers, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member 93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.94 Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1400 build hours to date Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms


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    Time: 03:53:42 PM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: torque tube pins
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> At 23:56 08/09/2005 -0700, you wrote: >Having spent the whole summer trying to do >that (be aware that Europa have changed the diameter of the torque tube >at various stages of the kit development and that they don't carry >spares of the older tubes), I have a different opinion. Let me quote >from my engineering text "/Plain and threaded taper pins (AN385 and >AN386) are used in joints which carry shear loads and where absence of >play is essential". >/ The problem with parallel pins is that, even if they start off "as >tight as a camel's a**e in a sandstorm!" (as mine originally did), it >only takes a knock or a shock (eg letting the counter weight thump down >on the stop when removing the tailplanes, over enthusiastic full and >free movement of controls check or struggling with mod 70) to introduce >some play, and your torque tube is toast! Play begets play! Hi Graeme Agree with most of that. The problem with parallel pins is that you can't be sure whether the pin is tight in both tubes and as you say any rattle will gradually knock itself a bigger hole. Most of this damage occurs during taxying of course. I haven't looked at taper pins, but they could be subject to the same problem. Did you know that camels have a triangular a**se, eat straw, sh1t bricks, hence the pyramids !:-> scuse me, just a sudden senior thought Graham --


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    Time: 05:31:17 PM PST US
    From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Annual Inspection Check List
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com> Ok, so call me stupid. I followed the link below, but cannot find any attachments or checklists. How do I get an attachment? Garry Stout ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Subject: Europa-List: RE: Annual Inspection Check List > --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> > > Thanks Bob, the check list is attached..... > SteveD > > ---------------- > This Email contains Photos or Attachments located at the following link: > http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=7379#7379 > > ---------------- > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > > >


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    Time: 09:44:27 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: RE: Annual Inspection Check List
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Would never call anyone stupid.........if you see the post, go full screen, the download button is on the right side of the page, so scroll right and click on the button, do a "save as" from the file menu and save it where you want. Mike Do Not Archive




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