Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 09/24/05


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 12:54 AM - Re: Laddingford Fly-In (G-IANI)
     2. 03:30 AM - Micromonitor Tacho input (paul atkinson)
     3. 04:49 AM - Re: Bing Carbs (Kingsley Hurst)
     4. 07:07 AM - Re: Micromonitor Tacho input (Steve Hagar)
     5. 08:10 AM - AW: Micromonitor Tacho input (Europa \(Alfred Buess\))
     6. 08:43 AM - Re: Micromonitor Tacho input (Cliff Shaw)
     7. 10:28 AM - Re: Bing Carbs (Carl Pattinson)
     8. 11:25 AM - Re: Bing Carbs (Duncan McFadyean)
     9. 11:36 AM - Re: Bing Carbs (Duncan McFadyean)
    10. 12:16 PM - AW: Electric Buss Pix (Europa \(Alfred Buess\))
    11. 01:58 PM - 914 Waste Gate (Jim Butcher)
    12. 02:32 PM - Fw: Ploughs to Propellers-Rougham Airfield 1st & 2nd October (Rowland Carson)
    13. 02:34 PM - Re: Let talk about Fuselage Gaps! THANKS TO ALL!  (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
    14. 03:24 PM - Re: Let talk about Fuselage Gaps!  (SteveD)
    15. 03:51 PM - Re: Electric Buss Pix (SteveD)
    16. 04:00 PM - Re: 914 Stuck Wastegate (Paul McAllister)
    17. 07:39 PM - Re: Re: Let talk about Fuselage Gaps!  (Cliff Shaw)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:54:56 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Laddingford Fly-In
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com> With your approval, Irene and I will come by car. See you all about 12.00 Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Watts Subject: Re: Europa-List: Laddingford Fly-In --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" <dg.watts@virgin.net> Any arrivals can join overhead if they so desire. Circuits to the north. Please try and avoid any settlements though, and make sure the runway is clear of aircraft and people. There is a public footpath that crosses 100 yards from the Eastern end that we have no control over, but most who use it are 'reasonably' sensible. The frequency in use will be the safety comm frequency. There is no fuel at Laddingford. Dave Watts G-BXDY


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    Time: 03:30:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Micromonitor Tacho input
    From: "paul atkinson" <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul atkinson" <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk> Can anyone with a microMonitor explain to me how they have wired up the tachometer input. Have you used the Rotax supplied leads from the alternator or have you done as described in the installation manual using pickups from the magnetos. If the Rotax pickups will do the job I would prefer to use them. Thanks in advance Paul Atkinson


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    Time: 04:49:28 AM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Bing Carbs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> > I don't think it does, the UK agent did some experimentation, a very > simple > mod but dependant on the pilot remembering to richen on descent. > It certainly does lean but as you suggest probably not enough. > Ivan noticed in the early days, (G-YURO) that going high wasn't > particularly economical. Thanks Graham, So the plot thickens ! Are you able to share what the simple mod was please ole mate ? Don't see the manual enrichment on descent being a problem - have to do it in all the spam cams ! Best Regards Kingsley


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    Time: 07:07:43 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Micromonitor Tacho input
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> Paul: I just had this problem. Upon first startup of my engine the tach didn't work. I hooked up the wires incorrectly. This is on the 914 model engine. There are two wires coming from the Rotax main connector. #26 goes to a micromonitor ground and #13 goes to the tach terminal on the monitor. No capacitors are needed. Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: paul atkinson <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk> > To: europa-list@matronics.com <europa-list@matronics.com> > Date: 9/24/2005 3:28:45 AM > Subject: Europa-List: Micromonitor Tacho input > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul atkinson" <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk> > > > Can anyone with a microMonitor explain to me how they have wired up the > tachometer input. Have you used the Rotax supplied leads from the > alternator or have you done as described in the installation manual using > pickups from the magnetos. If the Rotax pickups will do the job I would > prefer to use them. > > Thanks in advance > > Paul Atkinson > >


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    Time: 08:10:22 AM PST US
    From: "Europa \(Alfred Buess\)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch>
    Subject: Micromonitor Tacho input
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa \(Alfred Buess\)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch> Paul, Ron Mowrer of Rocky Mountain Instruments gave me the following instruction for hooking up my MicroMonitor to the Rotax 912S: Change our R3 to 100'000 ohms. Connect 912 tach wires, one to ground and the other to the monitor input without any diodes, caps etc. I haven't fired up my engine so far, but Ron knows certainly what's working. Regards, Alfred Alfred Buess Laenggasse 81, CH-3052 Zollikofen, Switzerland Tel.: +41 (0)31 911 63 32, Fax: +41 (0)31 911 56 32 E-Mail: ykibuess@bluewin.ch Europa XS #097, Monowheel, Foam shortwing, Rotax 912S, Airmaster 332 CS -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von paul atkinson Gesendet: Samstag, 24. September 2005 11:29 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Europa-List: Micromonitor Tacho input --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul atkinson" --> <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk> Can anyone with a microMonitor explain to me how they have wired up the tachometer input. Have you used the Rotax supplied leads from the alternator or have you done as described in the installation manual using pickups from the magnetos. If the Rotax pickups will do the job I would prefer to use them. Thanks in advance Paul Atkinson


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    Time: 08:43:25 AM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Micromonitor Tacho input
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Paul I have installed the Rocky uMicro Monitor in both Bob's and my Europas. In both the Rotax tach leads were used. I attached one lead to ground reference and the other to pin #C . If it does not work well at low RPM, reverse the wires connection. Note: I helped the engineers from Dynon on Wednesday to test there engine monitor so they can say it worked on Roatax too. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ----- Original Message ----- From: paul atkinson To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 3:28 AM Subject: Europa-List: Micromonitor Tacho input --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul atkinson" <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk> Can anyone with a microMonitor explain to me how they have wired up the tachometer input. Have you used the Rotax supplied leads from the alternator or have you done as described in the installation manual using pickups from the magnetos. If the Rotax pickups will do the job I would prefer to use them. Thanks in advance Paul Atkinson


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    Time: 10:28:16 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Bing Carbs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk> It is a very easy to modify the 912 carb installation to lean out the mixture. You just need a means of bleeding air into the balancer pipe between the carbs Run a T piece to a pipe into the cockpit. Terminate with a screw operated valve - just remember to close on descent. I guess if you have alarms on your EGT guages this would warn you if the mixture became too lean. It is not an approved mod (the PFA would certainly not approve it) and has the potential to burn the valves out if used incorrectly. Use at your own risk. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bing Carbs > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" > <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> > >> I don't think it does, the UK agent did some experimentation, a very >> simple >> mod but dependant on the pilot remembering to richen on descent. >> It certainly does lean but as you suggest probably not enough. >> Ivan noticed in the early days, (G-YURO) that going high wasn't >> particularly economical. > > Thanks Graham, > > So the plot thickens ! > > Are you able to share what the simple mod was please ole mate ? Don't see > the manual enrichment on descent being a problem - have to do it in all > the > spam cams ! > > Best Regards > Kingsley > > >


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    Time: 11:25:25 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Bing Carbs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Not PFA -approved but a standard feature of the 912S on a certain Section S UK microlights (Pegasus Quik). That one works by tapping-off a low pressure area in the side of the carb (i.e. a tapping into the venturi placed through one of the four blind drillings on the opposite side to the "choke" mechanism). This partial vacuum is then applied to the vents to the float chambers (i.e. the vents that are usually connected into the airbox (if the airbox mod. is present)). The partial vacuum is regulated crudely on the Quik by means of a 1/4-turn fuel tap (the cheap version supplied by ASS and used on things like Kitfoxes), which is mounted on the panel. The downstream part of the circuit has a bleed orifice (a 210 carb jet, which looked to be about 2.1mm bore) to prevent over application of the vacuum and (probably) to allow the crude fuel tap to work . Sort of "playing with fire" if the operator gets it wrong. The advantage must be quite minimal. Duncan Mcf. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bing Carbs > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl Pattinson" > <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk> > > It is a very easy to modify the 912 carb installation to lean out the > mixture. > > You just need a means of bleeding air into the balancer pipe between the > carbs > > Run a T piece to a pipe into the cockpit. Terminate with a screw operated > valve - just remember to close on descent. > I guess if you have alarms on your EGT guages this would warn you if the > mixture became too lean. > > It is not an approved mod (the PFA would certainly not approve it) and > has > the potential to burn the valves out if used incorrectly. > > Use at your own risk. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bing Carbs > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" >> <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> >> >>> I don't think it does, the UK agent did some experimentation, a very >>> simple >>> mod but dependant on the pilot remembering to richen on descent. >>> It certainly does lean but as you suggest probably not enough. >>> Ivan noticed in the early days, (G-YURO) that going high wasn't >>> particularly economical. >> >> Thanks Graham, >> >> So the plot thickens ! >> >> Are you able to share what the simple mod was please ole mate ? Don't >> see >> the manual enrichment on descent being a problem - have to do it in all >> the >> spam cams ! >> >> Best Regards >> Kingsley >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 11:36:58 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Bing Carbs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> The Bing CD carb works to an extent by responding to mass flow. So changes in mass resulting from high altitude (for example) are to an extent compensated for. It has often been stated that the 912 Bings will compensate to 5,000 feet (although I've heard it stated as 7,000 feet from other quarters). Certainly my own experience does not show significant EGT changes over that sort of height range, confirming that there is some compensation effect at work. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bing Carbs > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" > <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> > >> I don't think it does, the UK agent did some experimentation, a very >> simple >> mod but dependant on the pilot remembering to richen on descent. >> It certainly does lean but as you suggest probably not enough. >> Ivan noticed in the early days, (G-YURO) that going high wasn't >> particularly economical. > > Thanks Graham, > > So the plot thickens ! > > Are you able to share what the simple mod was please ole mate ? Don't see > the manual enrichment on descent being a problem - have to do it in all > the > spam cams ! > > Best Regards > Kingsley > > >


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    Time: 12:16:27 PM PST US
    From: "Europa \(Alfred Buess\)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch>
    Subject: Electric Buss Pix
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa \(Alfred Buess\)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch> Mike, I added some pictures of my fuse panel installation to the Europa owners board picture gallery. See http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=Fuse-panel-in-picn ic-tray&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php The fuse panel is inside the picnic tray on the starbord side of the instrument panel and can easily be opened for service (fuse replacement). Regards, Alfred Alfred Buess Laenggasse 81, CH-3052 Zollikofen, Switzerland Tel.: +41 (0)31 911 63 32, Fax: +41 (0)31 911 56 32 E-Mail: ykibuess@bluewin.ch Europa XS #097, Monowheel, Foam shortwing, Rotax 912S, Airmaster 332 CS -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von DuaneFamly@aol.com Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. September 2005 03:52 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Europa-List: Electric Buss Pix --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good day all, Does anyone have pix of their electric buss? Build sites would be good. I'd like to see what others have done so I can get an idea of the orientation of all items. Also, I seem to remember that someone made a reference guide that allowed you to look up a part number and find where in the manual it was called out. Is that still available? Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Do Not Archive


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    Time: 01:58:17 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
    Subject: 914 Waste Gate
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> While doing full power tests with our 914, we have found that the manifold pressure stops at 30.5 inHg even at full throttle - 5800 rpm. Watching the waste gate lever from outside the airplane, we observe that the waste gate does not change position from idle (2000 rpm) to full throttle. Further, when power is applied to the TCU, the servo motor rotates about 45 deg towards waste gate closed, then rotates the opposite direction about 90 deg and then rotates in the original direction about 45 deg. In other words, the waste gate is not closed at power up with the throttle closed. If I adjust the cable so the waste gate is closed at power up, it will still attempt to rotate both ways as before and when it stops, I get a flashing red light. The servo does not change position when the throttle is moved from idle to 115%. I have checked the throttle position with the TLR46 program. By the way, TLR46 says the servo is at 50%. All these symptoms are with a new engine on initial run-in. I have double checked wiring and connections. Shane at Lockwood thought the servo motor was defective and I installed the replacement this morning with the same results. Can anyone make any suggestions or lend some trouble shooting tips? Thanks Jim Butcher A185 N241BW At airport trying to fly!


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    Time: 02:32:48 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Fwd: Ploughs to Propellers-Rougham Airfield 1st & 2nd October
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> This invitation just received .... >just an open invitation to attend our popular 1940's themed October >fly-in at Rougham Airfield, Suffolk next weekend. Music, food, real >ale, ploughing competition etc etc..please visit our web-site at ><www.roughamairfield.org>www.roughamairfield.org for latest event >info. > >Pilots, please call on 07840-837952 prior to home field departure >for latest info. Rougham Radio 118.9Mhz.. AVGAS 100L available. >Airfield open 0900-1630 local both days. > >hope to see you next weekend. > >Duncan Skeels >Airfield Manager >Rougham Airfield >Bury-St-Edmunds >SUFFOLK regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson (retiring) Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>


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    Time: 02:34:40 PM PST US
    From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Let talk about Fuselage Gaps! THANKS TO ALL!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Europa Builders and Riders: Many thanks to all of you for the responses. This is truly a great group of folks. DO NOT ARCHIVE Brian Skelly Texas Europa # A276 TriGear See My build photos at: http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS


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    Time: 03:24:37 PM PST US
    by courier.fotokone.fi with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 22:23:09 -0000
    Subject: RE: Let talk about Fuselage Gaps! <Flame Extinguisher>
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Rocket Man wrote: "The most important thing is to make sure that your tail fin is square and pulled down tight in the rear. Any small gaps will be covered with the 4 ply of Bid that you will be reinforcing the seam with. Once sanded and filled and sanded and filled and sanded and filled and sanded, you'll never know it was there. The joint will be plenty strong... " 4 ply of bid on what seam? The whole top to bottom seam? I can't find this taping in the manual... Can someone give me a page number... I've searched the PDF manual and still can't find it.. Thanks, SteveD ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 03:51:57 PM PST US
    by courier.fotokone.fi with SMTP; 24 Sep 2005 22:51:30 -0000
    Subject: RE: Electric Buss Pix
    From: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Thanks Alfred, I know some email programs mess up those long URLs here's the short version: http://www.europaowners.org/Fuse-panel-in-picnic-tray I'm using the E-Bus: http://www.anywheremap.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=4 For the hot side and: http://www.bandcspecialty.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?26X358218 24/24-Tab Firewall Ground Kit for the ground side. When I get a spare minute I'll update the photos I have on EuropaOwners. I'll also post the photos of my panel mounted on shock mounts http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=4403K27&pagenum=1219 I did it to address a clearance problem and it just made everything better. Panel comes on and off easily, wires have clearance, I'm very happy with the results. If it gives some shock protection all the better... Steved. ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 04:00:12 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: 914 Stuck Wastegate
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Matt, Can you tell us what kind of solvent you used to clean the shaft of the waste gate. Thanks, Paul do not archive


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    Time: 07:39:41 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Let talk about Fuselage Gaps! <Flame Extinguisher>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Steve Might that instruction regarding 4 ply be intended for the classic build? I don't remember dong a glass lay-up on the inside and defiantly did not do one on the outside. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveD Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 3:23 PM Subject: Europa-List: RE: Let talk about Fuselage Gaps! <Flame Extinguisher> --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net> Rocket Man wrote: "The most important thing is to make sure that your tail fin is square and pulled down tight in the rear. Any small gaps will be covered with the 4 ply of Bid that you will be reinforcing the seam with. Once sanded and filled and sanded and filled and sanded and filled and sanded, you'll never know it was there. The joint will be plenty strong... " 4 ply of bid on what seam? The whole top to bottom seam? I can't find this taping in the manual... Can someone give me a page number... I've searched the PDF manual and still can't find it.. Thanks, SteveD ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/




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