Europa-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/27/05


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:47 AM - Re: Alternator Warning light. (Roger Mills)
     2. 02:50 AM - Trouble fitting wings to fuselage (Graham Singleton)
     3. 05:27 AM - Re: rudder pedal movement (Kingsley Hurst)
     4. 08:35 AM - Trouble fitting wings to fuselage (Erich Trombley)
     5. 12:46 PM - Re: rudder pedal movement (Mike Gamble)
     6. 04:02 PM - Re: Trouble fitting wings to fuselage (SPurpura@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:47:46 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Mills" <Roger.Mills@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternator Warning light.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Mills" <Roger.Mills@btinternet.com> Fred, As you suggest, the alternator warning light is lit only when the alternator is connected to the battery and not charging - you need separate warning lights (or use the voltmeter) for high or low voltage faults. Regards Roger Mills Europa 141


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    Time: 02:50:20 AM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Trouble fitting wings to fuselage
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> The cockpit module is installed and I have the top temporarily on and snug. Following the instructions to set the wing incidence, I've attempted to insert the wings and insert the pins to hold everything in place while trial positioning and fitting the wing root pins. Outside the fuselage, the wing bushings line up fine, and using the two large pins supplied, can get them to go through both bushings on each side, although they are VERY tight. It can't be where the holes are located inside the cockpit module as those lines up fine with the first spar bushing. We just can't get the starboard wing to go in enough for the bushings on that spar to line up. Even if we do get them lined up, it's a bear to get those pins in and out. Dan Bish Dan it sounds like some of the bushes in the spars are badly aligned. My approach would be to find out which ones are wrong, remove them then carefully rebond them in using tight pins, (the bolts provided are slightly undersize and this is where the errors originate, in the original jigging) You need to do it with the wings assembled , Then fit to the fuselage and check alighment with the fuselage bushes. The easy way is to ream out the misaligned bushes but you will end up with loose pins, Graham


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    Time: 05:27:59 AM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Re: rudder pedal movement
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> Mike, Since no one else seems to have attempted to answer your questions (at time of this writing anyway) I will throw in my 2 pennies (cents) worth. > Regarding rudder pedal travel - am I right in thinking that the total fore > and aft pedal movement is only about 3 inches to get 30 deg. deflection > from the neutral position? If you have the standard XS rudder cable attachment on the rudder, I think 3 inches would be about right for the top of the arm onto which the cable attaches. I have Graham Singleton's mod and my movement is a little less than 3 ins. The pedals being longer than the arm, would move proportionately further. > Also how far back from the front of the footwell are the pedals when in > this so called neutral position? Can't answer this as I have a Classic but in the Classic manual, the minimum distance from the front of the footwell with the rudder fully deflected is 40 mm if I remember correctly. (my manual is down in the workshop - locked up right now) I assume the XS manual should advise likewise. > Because of the geometry the pedal tops will only be level with each other > at one point I think. The pedals should be level with each other only when the rudder is straight but the distance they are from the front of the footwell in this state will be determined by the length of the rudder cables. The length of the rudder cables also dictates how far the tops of the arms approach or encroach on the SS firewall, the other point you were talking about. Doing each separately, to determine the cable length, I made up a spacer to hold the pedal the required distance from the front of the footwell and while holding the rudder fully deflected by tensioning the cable, wrapped the cable around the thimble. While held in this position, I made an alignment mark on the cable and the thimble with a felt pen. The cable was then pulled out into an open area and swaged. This assumes of course that the rear ends of the cables have already been properly affixed to the rudder horn. If desired, finer adjustments can be made later if you have incorporated some sort of cable length adjusters (like turnbuckles) in the rudder circuit. Hope this helps more than it confuses !! Cheers Kingsley in Oz


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    Time: 08:35:39 AM PST US
    From: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
    Subject: Trouble fitting wings to fuselage
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com> Dan, You are obvioulsly not alone in this matter. After extensive diagnostics, I found for N28ET that the problem was in the fiberglass cuff that you glass in place over the spars. The cuff is required for the mod to increase the gross weight to 1370 lbs. Rigging the spars was no problem outside of the plane as you describe, however, when trying to fit the wings to the aircraft I just could get the wings in 100%. It seems a few thousands of an inch make all the difference. Anyway long story short I removed the cuff and bingo the wing slid in all the way allowing for simple rigging. Good luck. P.S. Looks like I may in fact be coming to Copperstate after all. Where are the folks from out of town staying? Casa Grande? Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 Dan, You are obvioulsly not alone in this matter. Afterextensive diagnostics, I found for N28ET that the problem was in the fiberglass cuff that you glass in place over the spars. The cuff isrequired for the mod toincreasethegross weight to 1370 lbs. Rigging the spars was no problem outside of the plane as you describe, however, when trying to fit the wings to the aircraft I just could get the wings in 100%. It seems a few thousands of an inch make all the difference. Anyway long story short I removed the cuff and bingo the wing slid in all the way allowing for simple rigging. Good luck. P.S. Looks like I may in fact be coming to Copperstate after all. Where are the folks from out of town staying? Casa Grande? Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914


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    Time: 12:46:44 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: rudder pedal movement
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@tiscali.co.uk> Thanks Kingsley. It helps and your input is much appreciated. The XS has no minimum firewall to rudder pedal distance stipulated. Just make sure there is some gap. I had made up my cables from front to rear thus attaching the eyes to the pedal arms. Yes, the obvious thing to do now is attach the eyes to the rudder thus making the length adjustment much easier. Mike Gamble XS440 mono


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    Time: 04:02:04 PM PST US
    From: SPurpura@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Trouble fitting wings to fuselage
    --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com The bushes can be aligned slightly by applying high heat ( I believe i put a torch to a 1/2" rod and a heat gun on the bushes) as the redux softens, insert your pins/rods. Sam N77EU




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