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1. 01:04 AM - Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 (BEBERRY@aol.com)
2. 01:45 AM - Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 (William Mills)
3. 01:47 AM - Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 (William Mills)
4. 02:35 AM - Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 (Simon Smith)
5. 11:42 AM - Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 (Roger Anderson)
6. 03:06 PM - First Flight N241BW (Jim Butcher)
7. 03:15 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (NevEyre@aol.com)
8. 03:33 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Michael Grass)
9. 03:57 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Tim Ward)
10. 04:36 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Matthew Carpenter)
11. 06:24 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Paul Boulet)
12. 07:09 PM - Re: NGK Plugs for 912 (Paul McAllister)
13. 07:13 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Paul McAllister)
14. 07:29 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Kingsley Hurst)
15. 07:32 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Kingsley Hurst)
16. 07:45 PM - Re: First Flight N241BW (Fergus Kyle)
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Subject: | Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Thanks Kingsley for those observations. I need to fly with someone with an
Arplast and a CS prop and make a comparison. As soon as I have got all work
finished (hope to complete Arplast installation tomorrow) I can then rig the
aircraft and do some ground runs before the mod approval comes through.
Best wishes.
Patrick
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Subject: | Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
All,
While we are talking of Arplast PV50s, does any one happen to have a broken
/ unusable PV50 blade that I might have or borrow? I would like to compare
the cross section profile of a PV 50 with the Woodcomp SR 2000 propeller
that I am using at present.
If anyone knows of anybody not on the forum who has unfortunately broken his
PV 50, please let me know.
Many thanks,
William
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Arplast Prop.PV50
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst"
> <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
>
>> Many thanks for the advice. I have deliberately not, at the present
>> time
>> ,
>> installed a constantd speed unit, for two reasons 1, I did not see the
>> need,
>> but your comments may make me change my mind and ..
>
> Patrick,
>
> I don't think you will be disappointed if you allow William's comments to
> change your mind.
>
> I have only had the experience once of flying in a Europa with a VP prop
> as
> opposed to a CS prop. My observation was that the pilot was as busy as a
> one armed violinist trying to ensure no over speeding of the engine during
> the take-off phase. Admittedly, the pilot's makeup didn't help the
> situation but notwithstanding this, I don't think there is much comparison
> really. Using the CS prop is like going for a stroll in the park.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Regards
> Kingsley
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
Where are you based, Patrick?
Best wishes,
William
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----- Original Message -----
From: <BEBERRY@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Arplast Prop.PV50
> --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
>
>
> Thanks Kingsley for those observations. I need to fly with someone with
> an
> Arplast and a CS prop and make a comparison. As soon as I have got all
> work
> finished (hope to complete Arplast installation tomorrow) I can then rig
> the
> aircraft and do some ground runs before the mod approval comes through.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
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Subject: | Arplast Prop.PV50 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
All,
While we are talking of Arplast PV50s, does any one happen to have a broken
/ unusable PV50 blade that I might have or borrow? I would like to compare
the cross section profile of a PV 50 with the Woodcomp SR 2000 propeller
that I am using at present.
If anyone knows of anybody not on the forum who has unfortunately broken his
PV 50, please let me know.
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I think you will be lucky to find a broken Arplast blade as they are tough
as old boots.
There is a Banbi in the hangar at Perth (the Scottish one!) that went off
the runway a year or two ago and removed the nose leg. The prop hub broke
(ground adjustable version not the VP) but the blades were unmarked despite
have dug out a few sods of earth. The blades were simply bolted into a new
hub and of it went again (with a new nose leg).
Regards
Simon
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Subject: | Re: Arplast Prop.PV50 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson" <Randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
Patrick,
I have an Arplast PV50 which was fitted at build before the constant
speed version was available. I am very happy with it and feel no compulsion
to change to the CS version. I get bored if I having nothing to play with!
(No obscene comments please).
Roger G-BXTD.
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Subject: | First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Europa XS N241BW, A185 took to the skies Sunday, Oct 2, 2005 at 1615 Zulu. Jim
flew the plane for about 10 minutes, basically around the pattern. It handles
and flies nicely! We do have some cooling issues to address. Jim & Heather
will take turns completing the 40 hrs of flight test.
Our Europa is a monowheel, 914 powered with intercooler, Airmaster AP332 prop.
It also features dual alternators, built in oxygen, full IFR instrumentation
consisting of Garmin 430 and Blue Mountain EFIS One and EFIS Lite.
For Rowland ... the flight took place at Almena Airport, Michigan (2C5). It weighs
in at 960 lbs (heavier than we had hoped). Jim & Heather started the construction
in May 2000 and the total project consumed about 4500 hours between
the two of us. We did the entire project including paint in our 2 car garage!
Next are the glider wings!
Jim & Heather Butcher
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Subject: | Re: First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com
Hi Jim and Heather,
Congratulations ! This is one of the ones I am really pleased to hear about
reaching completion, well done !
Figure on the temps' dropping about 10 c after 5 or so hours on the clock.
Does the silly grin hurt yet ?
Cheers,
Nev.
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Subject: | Re: First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
Congratulations Jim and Heather,
I can not wait to get mine in the cold Michigan blue sky but I am still so
far away from this event.
Michael Grass
A266 Trigear
Detroit Mi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Subject: Europa-List: First Flight N241BW
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
> Europa XS N241BW, A185 took to the skies Sunday, Oct 2, 2005 at 1615 Zulu.
> Jim flew the plane for about 10 minutes, basically around the pattern. It
> handles and flies nicely! We do have some cooling issues to address. Jim
> & Heather will take turns completing the 40 hrs of flight test.
>
> Our Europa is a monowheel, 914 powered with intercooler, Airmaster AP332
> prop. It also features dual alternators, built in oxygen, full IFR
> instrumentation consisting of Garmin 430 and Blue Mountain EFIS One and
> EFIS Lite.
>
> For Rowland ... the flight took place at Almena Airport, Michigan (2C5).
> It weighs in at 960 lbs (heavier than we had hoped). Jim & Heather
> started the construction in May 2000 and the total project consumed about
> 4500 hours between the two of us. We did the entire project including
> paint in our 2 car garage! Next are the glider wings!
>
> Jim & Heather Butcher
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
Jim and Heather,
Congratulations on the first flight, well done. Hope the leather boots fit
in well and add some protection.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8005
New Zealand.
Ph +64 3 3515166
Mobile 021 0640221
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Subject: Europa-List: First Flight N241BW
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
> Europa XS N241BW, A185 took to the skies Sunday, Oct 2, 2005 at 1615 Zulu.
> Jim flew the plane for about 10 minutes, basically around the pattern. It
> handles and flies nicely! We do have some cooling issues to address. Jim
> & Heather will take turns completing the 40 hrs of flight test.
>
> Our Europa is a monowheel, 914 powered with intercooler, Airmaster AP332
> prop. It also features dual alternators, built in oxygen, full IFR
> instrumentation consisting of Garmin 430 and Blue Mountain EFIS One and
> EFIS Lite.
>
> For Rowland ... the flight took place at Almena Airport, Michigan (2C5).
> It weighs in at 960 lbs (heavier than we had hoped). Jim & Heather
> started the construction in May 2000 and the total project consumed about
> 4500 hours between the two of us. We did the entire project including
> paint in our 2 car garage! Next are the glider wings!
>
> Jim & Heather Butcher
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matthew Carpenter <europaxs@gmail.com>
Jim
Great to hear that you have flown! Hope to see your new bird at Oshkosh
next year!
Where did you place your O2 tank?
Thanks,
Matthew Carpenter
Jim Butcher wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
>Europa XS N241BW, A185 took to the skies Sunday, Oct 2, 2005 at 1615 Zulu. Jim
flew the plane for about 10 minutes, basically around the pattern. It handles
and flies nicely! We do have some cooling issues to address. Jim & Heather
will take turns completing the 40 hrs of flight test.
>
>Our Europa is a monowheel, 914 powered with intercooler, Airmaster AP332 prop.
It also features dual alternators, built in oxygen, full IFR instrumentation
consisting of Garmin 430 and Blue Mountain EFIS One and EFIS Lite.
>
>For Rowland ... the flight took place at Almena Airport, Michigan (2C5). It weighs
in at 960 lbs (heavier than we had hoped). Jim & Heather started the construction
in May 2000 and the total project consumed about 4500 hours between
the two of us. We did the entire project including paint in our 2 car garage!
Next are the glider wings!
>
>Jim & Heather Butcher
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
Wow.... 4500 hours....it must be beautiful... kudos to
you two
Paul Boulet, N914PB
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--- Jim Butcher <europa@triton.net> wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher"
> <europa@triton.net>
>
> Europa XS N241BW, A185 took to the skies Sunday, Oct
> 2, 2005 at 1615 Zulu. Jim flew the plane for about
> 10 minutes, basically around the pattern. It
> handles and flies nicely! We do have some cooling
> issues to address. Jim & Heather will take turns
> completing the 40 hrs of flight test.
>
> Our Europa is a monowheel, 914 powered with
> intercooler, Airmaster AP332 prop. It also features
> dual alternators, built in oxygen, full IFR
> instrumentation consisting of Garmin 430 and Blue
> Mountain EFIS One and EFIS Lite.
>
> For Rowland ... the flight took place at Almena
> Airport, Michigan (2C5). It weighs in at 960 lbs
> (heavier than we had hoped). Jim & Heather started
> the construction in May 2000 and the total project
> consumed about 4500 hours between the two of us. We
> did the entire project including paint in our 2 car
> garage! Next are the glider wings!
>
> Jim & Heather Butcher
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
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Subject: | Re: NGK Plugs for 912 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Guys,
Try http://www.sparkplugs.com/ ..... Listed at $2.68
Paul
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Subject: | Re: First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Jim & Heather,
Congratulations !! Now the fun begins
Paul - N378PJ, 350 hours and still grinning
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Subject: | First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Congratulations Jim and Heather. Correlating your build hrs with mine,
it puts me at about the 80% mark which I think would be about right
judging by what I still have to do !! IOW, I wont be making any
announcements for some time yet (unfortunately).
Enjoy the rewards.
Kingsley
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Subject: | First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> Congratulations ! This is one of the ones I am really pleased to hear
about
reaching completion, well done !
Which means you're not interested in mine Nev ??? Boo hoo, sniff sniff.
Sorry but have been meaning to drop you a line so hope all is well with
you.
Cheers
Kingsley
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Subject: | Re: First Flight N241BW |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Heather and Jim!
Congratulations! What an achievement as I know it's a winner. I
thank you for your advice and help, and look forward to hearing more. The
IFR fit must have been challenging.
I hope this doesn't mean you leave the net 'cause I will surely
have more questions regarding the second alternator........... All I ahve
managed this week is building the trailer. Fuselage painted, wings sanded,
controls next. Engine comes Tuesday. Wiring to go.
3200 hours so far, nearly all solo.
Cheers!
Ferg
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