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1. 12:05 AM - Re: NSI (Pete Lawless)
2. 02:37 AM - FW: FW: FREE Pocket FMS moving map for Pocket PC, XP (Alan Burrows)
3. 03:55 AM - Re: FREE Pocket FMS moving map for Pocket PC, XP (josok)
4. 06:36 AM - TEST MAIL (Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com)
5. 11:26 AM - st louis visit (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk)
6. 11:32 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 10/04/05 (Graham Singleton)
7. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 10/04/05 (Gerry Holland)
8. 01:46 PM - Re: PDA GPS (Chris Beck)
9. 04:59 PM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
10. 05:37 PM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (JR(Bob) Gowing)
11. 06:06 PM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (N55XS)
12. 08:16 PM - Copperstate Contact Numbers (N914RB)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Rob
Thanks for that will pass it on to David Hunter.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
robnrobinh@comcast.net
Subject: RE: Europa-List: NSI
--> Europa-List message posted by: robnrobinh@comcast.net
NSI has changed, Lance is no longer there contact Legrand Harris at
lgharris@xmission.com
He is currently trying to reorganize and usually responds best to email.
They are closed on Fridays.
-Rob
-------------- Original message ---- ----------
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless"
>
> Hi Jean
>
> I also have the NSI prop. My friend David Hunter, who was the nearest
> thing NSI had to an agent in the UK, tried to telephone them this
> evening. They are not answering the telephone, but the answer machine
> message has changed in the last couple of weeks since he last tried.
>
> David will try again tomorrow if he has any luck I will let you know.
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NEEL Jean
> Philippe
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: NSI
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: NEEL Jean Philippe
> -->
>
> Bonjour
> I have been flying a CAP NSI 140 for 200h now. I am very happy with
that
> efficient and light propeller especially when taking off on alti
surface
> or altiport. I worry about bad news read here on the forum concerning
> the future of NSI. I understand they have been sold.To what company?
> As anyone recent information about NSI and the most important:can we
> always order spare parts? Thanks for help
>
> Jean Philippe
> Kit 273 F-PSLH
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Tlchargez le ici !
>
>
> --
> 30/09/2005
>
>
> --
> 30/09/2005
>
>
>
>
>
>
NSI has changed, Lance is no longer there contact Legrand Harris at
lgharris@xmission.com
He is currently trying to reorganize and usually responds best to email.
They are closed on Fridays. -Rob
-------------- Original message ---- ----------
-- Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <PETE@LAWLESS.INFO>
Hi Jean
I also have the NSI prop. My friend David Hunter, who was the nearest
thing NSI had to an agent in the UK, tried to telephone them this
evening. They are not answering the telephone, but the answer machine
message has changed in the last couple of weeks since he last tried.
David will try again tomorrow if he has any luck I will let you know.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NEEL Jean
Philippe
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: NSI
-- Europa-List message posted by: NEEL Jean Philippe
-->
; <JEANPHILIPPENEEL@YAHOO.FR>
Bonjour
I have been flying a CAP NSI 140 for 200h now. I am very happy with
that
efficient and light propeller especially when taking off on alti
surface
or altiport. I worry about bad news read here on the forum concerning
the future of NSI. I understand they have been sold.To what company?
As anyone recent information about NSI and the most important:can we
always order spare parts? Thanks for help
Jean Philippe
Kit 273 F-PSLH
---------------------------------
Tlchargez le ici !
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30/09/2005
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30/09/2005
lities such as the Subscriptions page,
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30/09/2005
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30/09/2005
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| Subject: | FREE Pocket FMS moving map for Pocket PC, XP |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Here's a verdict on the free GPS software that Glen mentioned yesterday
from a friend of mine who has been using it for a little while. Hope its
of use, I'm certainly going to try it in both UK and USA.
Kind Regards
Alan
Yes, I have used this for about a year now, through several (needed)
upgrades.
Works well and the price is right - I also advise my students of it.
I use a Garmin 12 ($89) and an Ipaq 3560 (ordered by someone and
never picked up), plus a cable that I ordered from someone in Hong
Kong or Singapore for $14 delivered - local sources wanted $50+.
That's the hardest part, connecting the GPS to the PDA, actually
finding the cable at a reasonable price (try Google).
Better way is the GPS that plugs into the expansion slot on top of
the PDA - about $170, and no cables needed - keeps the cockpit
considerably less cluttered. Battery life on the combo sucks, so you
still should have a power cable for the PDA.
There are some bugs in the "your airplane" data section, and it also
doesn't seem to update the screen quickly, so it is happiest in slow
airplanes.
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| Subject: | RE: FREE Pocket FMS moving map for Pocket PC, XP |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
It's been in use by me from before i learned to fly. Mind you, that's less then
2 years ago. It's still beta software, and there are still minor bugs. But then
also software with a price tag have bugs eh Jeremy? The advantage here that
on their website is an open discussion about the software bugs and also about
wishes still wanted. It has some features that i have not seen on any other
product. I like to be able to do the route planning on the home PC, get the weather
and all, and then upload that route on the pocket PC. Don't buy something
old, it's worth to have a "fast" one. As a donor (50) i can download all maps
as a package. The alternative is to download all zoom levels separately, which
is a pain in the lower part of the back. The user manual is pretty poor, it
takes some try and error before you start appreciating what it all contains.
My first gps was a thing on a wire, broke the plug pretty soon. Second one was
a blue-tooth device, no wires, no hassle.Works also very nice in the car, with
car nav soft that is. It would not work through the heat reflecting windshield
of my own car. Forgot it in a rental car, which gave me the change to buy a
new one, this one does 16 Sat's and works even in the house, through the roof!
and behind the same windshield. Battery lasts some 16 hrs.
Recommended software, and these guys deserve all the support we can give them,
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com
Just checking. Do not archive.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
Hi All across the pond,
my wife Barbara and I will be visiting
St Louis at the end of the month for a couple of weeks, are there any
Europa builders / flyer s who would like to meet for a drink and maybe a
meal. We will be staying with friends the first weekend (21st Oct) and
hopefully playing with their Cherokee Arrow :-) . Then driving around
the area, returning to the UK on the 6th Nov.
It's always nice to meet fellow builders abroad talk Europa and swop
idea's.
Please get in touch off list.
Rgd Danny Shepherd ( g-c.e.r.i )
60% done 80% to go :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 10/04/05 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>
>
>Time: 10:05:36 AM PST US
>From: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: FREE Pocket FMS moving map for Pocket PC, XP
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
>
>Heres a free Anywhere Map type moving map software that can run on
>Windows CE/Mobile or higher, also Windows 2000, NT, or XP.
>They ask for a donation but is not required. I just downloaded it this
>morning so haven't tried it yet but I hear it works very well. You still
>have to provide the PDA and GPS of course!
>
>http://www.pocketfms.com/
>PocketFMS, your portable co-pilot!
>
> Glenn
>
>
All
I have PocketFMS on my PDA and it does work very well. You need to make
a donation so that they will let you downlod "high definition" maps.
Euro50 is enough. Then you can download maps for anywhere in the world,
(well almost anywhere)
You need a PDA with a bright screen, I use a wired GPS, found Blue Tooth
a bit iffy. You will also find that TomTom messes up things for other
software. It can be fixed but I can't always do it, not being PDA literate.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 10/04/05 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
Re. Pocket FMS
> You will also find that TomTom messes up things for other
> software. It can be fixed but I can't always do it, not being PDA literate.
The Tom Tom application grabs the GPS Driver and wont let go easily so you
need a tool to clear this condition after using Tom Tom or Smart ST.
http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/support/download.asp?downlineid=80&downline=Le
adtek%20Bluetooth%20GPS%20Receiver
Load it to your Win CE device and run it.
Use commands to connect to GPS. Read documentation!
Use Command Menu and select NMAE and it will run and release Driver. Exit
programme and start Pocket FMS. The real affect on Pocket FMS with Driver
connection incomplete is no Altitude read out.
Pocket FMS works well on a reasonable spec. Win CE PDA.
Gerry
How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck <n9zes@verizon.net>
From: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 10/04/05
Pocket FMS works well on a reasonable spec. Win CE PDA.
Gerry
--->Wow, after a bit of digging (I'm a GPS neophyte), it seems there are a LOT
of options to get GPS running.
I have a Dell Axim X50 PDA which I really like. SO, there are options of both
Bluetooth wireless GPS receivers, wired receivers, and buying a cheap GPS unit
to wire connect to the PDA. Then, the cheap GPS can be used to walk around in
the woods without getting lost or driving around in a car.
The wired route doesn't look as appealing as I'll already have headset/intercom
wires, a PTT on the yoke, etc. and having a PDA, interface cable, 12V power
supply cord and other bits also hanging about, I see a issue with trying to fold
charts and generally maintain sanity in the cabin without ending up a tangled
mess. But, the DeLorme GPS unit that plugs into the PDA via USB is inexpensive
enough to try out with the PocketPC software. Might not be a bad solution
to see how GPS will work on the PDA.
Otherwise, the Magellan Airmap 500 looks like a nice solution for basic VFR nav.
The PDA route works for me, but my wife has a Sony Clie' and it's a Palm device,
so she's S.O.L. for the handheld solution when she wants to fly.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Handheld GPS recommendations |
--> Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Jeff-
If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very complimentary
article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite expensive, but
full of features. I think the only difference between it and the 296 is the
XM radio interface.
Jim Pugise, A383
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS
>
> Chris,
>
> I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will
> go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little
> better unit, drop me a line...
>
> Jeff - N55XS
> 73 hours and lovin'it!
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Chris Beck wrote:
>
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck
> >
> >Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon.
> >
> >I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new
> or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140.
> >
> >No, we haven't abandoned the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into
> our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her ticket,
> it's a great way to get some time.
> >
> >Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the last
> several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er
> done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
> cobwebs out of the mind.
> >
> >Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a
> J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
> and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo
> before I carry pax.
> >
> >As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3.
I
> must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. Warm day,
> windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty
> nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub made
> me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages there
> are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane.
> >
> >Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units!
> >
> >Chris
> >A159
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Jeff-
If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very complimentary
article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite expensive, but full
of features. I think the only difference between it and the 296 is the XM
radio interface.
Jim Pugise, A383
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <TOPGLOCK@COX.NET>
Chris,
I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will
go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little
better unit, drop me a line...
Jeff - N55XS
73 hours and lovin'it!
do not archive
Chris Beck wrote:
-- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck <N9ZES@VERIZON.NET>
Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon.
I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new
or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140.
No, we haven't abandoned
the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into
our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her ticket,
it's a great way to get some time.
Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the last
several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er
done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
cobwebs out of the mind.
Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a
J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo
before I carry pax.
As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I
must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. W
arm day,
windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty
nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub made
me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages there
are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane.
Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units!
Chris
A159
&g
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| Subject: | Re: Handheld GPS recommendations |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "JR(Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
Friends
I am not a computer addict but shared a couple of emails with a friend whose
advice might be interesting to some of you fellow europa builders. It goes
as follows:-
My friend Terry says -----
It seems unreasoned to me that a person would spend $100,000 on an aeroplane
and, after absorbing a miniscule amount of experience in electronics would
choose the cheapest, cobbled together GPS system they can find! Your life
may depend on your GPS!
Neither of the emails you sent me discusses the most important
considerations which are:-
* How long does the system take to acquire the satellites after
powering up?
* Does the system function under heavy cloud?
* How reliable are all of the cables and connections? (There is
significant vibration in an aeroplane)
I suggest an integrated unit where there are only two cables and the system
will work without both of them! Purchase a Navman Pin for approximately
$1,000 (AUD) retail. The following features are necessary for safe
operation:-
* It contains a built-in GPS unit that requires no cables to operate.
* The integrated rechargeable Li-Ion battery will run the GPS for
several hours without relying on a connection to your main battery
* An external powered antenna is available that has a gain of more
than 20dB. This will receive weak signals even through clouds, or wet leaves
on trees if you are in to low flying. The increased sensitivity allows the
GPS to acquire satellites faster. However, the GPS will work without it!
* NO CABLES IMPROVES RELIABILITY
* If you need to walk away from a crash, the road maps of all
Australia included in the Navman will help you to safety
* The unit can be used in your car to guide you to and from the
airport.
* The Pin runs Windows CE and so will run your cheap GPS software of
which I know nothing, but I urge you to obtain the best software that is
available regardless of cost
You have my permission to share these thoughts with your aeronautical
friends but please do not pass on my email address to them.
Regards, Terry
JR (Bob) gowing UK Kit 327
Hope you enjoy thethoughts
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| Subject: | Re: Handheld GPS recommendations |
--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
Jim, the 396 is the exact reason the 296 is for sale. I bought a 396
two weeks ago and fell in love. The 296 is almost new, with a car kit.
Interested parties should contact me, off list, for pricing and
particulars. The XM interface is the difference, as well as an extra
$1,000...
Jeff - N55XS
73 hours and lovin' it...
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jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net
>
>Jeff-
>
>If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very complimentary
article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite expensive, but
full of features. I think the only difference between it and the 296 is the
XM radio interface.
>
>Jim Pugise, A383
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
>
>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS
>>
>>Chris,
>>
>>I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will
>>go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little
>>better unit, drop me a line...
>>
>>Jeff - N55XS
>>73 hours and lovin'it!
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>Chris Beck wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck
>>>
>>>Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon.
>>>
>>>I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new
>>>
>>>
>>or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140.
>>
>>
>>>No, we haven't abandoned the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into
>>>
>>>
>>our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her ticket,
>>it's a great way to get some time.
>>
>>
>>>Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the last
>>>
>>>
>>several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er
>>done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
>>cobwebs out of the mind.
>>
>>
>>>Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a
>>>
>>>
>>J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
>>and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo
>>before I carry pax.
>>
>>
>>>As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3.
I
>>>
>>>
>>must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. Warm day,
>>windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty
>>nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub made
>>me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages there
>>are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane.
>>
>>
>>>Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units!
>>>
>>>Chris
>>>A159
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Jeff-
>
>If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very complimentary
article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite expensive, but
full of features. I think the only difference between it and the 296 is the XM
radio interface.
>
>Jim Pugise, A383
>
>-------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <TOPGLOCK@COX.NET>
>
> Chris,
>
> I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will
> go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little
> better unit, drop me a line...
>
> Jeff - N55XS
> 73 hours and lovin'it!
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Chris Beck wrote:
>
> -- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck <N9ZES@VERIZON.NET>
>
> Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon.
>
> I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new
> or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140.
>
> No, we haven't abandoned
> the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into
> our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her ticket,
> it's a great way to get some time.
>
> Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the last
> several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er
> done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
> cobwebs out of the mind.
>
> Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a
> J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
> and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo
> before I carry pax.
>
> As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I
> must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. W
> arm day,
> windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty
> nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub made
> me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages there
> are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane.
>
> Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units!
>
> Chris
> A159
>
>
>&g
>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" <n914rb@earthlink.net>
Hi everyone,
It looks like several Europa-philes will be making it to Copperstate in Casa
Grande, AZ this weekend.
Here are the contact numbers I have so far, so you can just print this out
and take it with you. I'm sure there will be more so just respond to this
message and add your name to the list. I plan to be there Friday & Saturday.
Don't forget to stop by the Army National Guard tent as Gary Roberts will be
there and said he'd be glad to start a sign up sheet. He's a good guy and
I've done my level best to teach him everything he knows about building
airplanes ;>)
Looking forward to seeing you all there.
Dan
Kit A144, Tucson, AZ
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Dan Bish Tucson, AZ 520.360.9747
Paul Boulet Malibu, CA ---
Steve Hagar Mesa, AZ ---
Thomas Scherer Los Angeles 323.404.4044
Al Stills Phoenix, AZ 623-853-6508
Erich Trombley Las Vegas, NV 702.682.0219
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