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     1. 01:52 AM - Softening the blow (Richard Iddon)
     2. 02:25 AM - Re: Softening the blow (Gerry Holland)
     3. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: PDA GPS (Gerry Holland)
     4. 04:10 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (josok)
     5. 04:28 AM - Re: Softening the blow (Richard Iddon)
     6. 05:30 AM - Re: Copperstate Contact Numbers (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter)
     7. 06:15 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
     8. 07:55 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (Fergus Kyle)
     9. 09:07 AM - VDO Sensor Information (Jim Butcher)
    10. 09:45 AM - Re: Copperstate Contact Numbers (Paul Boulet)
    11. 09:50 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (Alan Burrows)
    12. 12:33 PM - Re: Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (Gerry Holland)
    13. 12:53 PM - Re: Softening the blow (Tim Ward)
    14. 04:25 PM - Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? ()
    15. 05:14 PM - Re: Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? (Paul McAllister)
    16. 07:46 PM - Re: VDO Sensor Information (Fergus Kyle)
    17. 08:19 PM - Baby Blue Owner (JEFF ROBERTS)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Softening the blow | 
              1.67 SARE_ADLTSUB2          Contains possible adult words
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
      
      Having just replaced the pins in my tailplane torque tube, and not
      wishing to repeat the process in a hurry, I am looking for a way to
      cushion the bump stops for the mass balance weight to soften the 'clonk'
      as it hits them and, hopefully, reduce the wear on the new pins. I seem
      to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section with
      something softer but can't remember what.
      
      Can someone refresh my memory?
      
      Richard Iddon G-RIXS
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Softening the blow | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
      
      Richard
      
      > I seem to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section with
      > something softer but can't remember what.
      
      I used a section of Fan Belt riveted and glue to a semi-circle Fibreglass
      bracket. You can also slide Coolant Hose, approx 1 inch internal diameter or
      more on the broom handle if you can get into the back.
      
      Gerry
      
      
              
              
                      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
      
      Try Mitac Mio 168 GPS/PDA. It has GPS built in with flip up Aerial.
      Around 200 incl. VAT. Great PDA too with MS Win CE 2003 and Car Kit.
      
      http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/m-mio-brl.html
      
      Pocket FMS runs a treat on it. You may need to purchase a screen protector
      to reduce the glare in the very open Europa cockpit.
      
      Gerry
      
      
                      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Handheld GPS recommendations | 
              0.64 REPLY_TO_EMPTY         Reply-To: is empty
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
      
      JR,
      
      Reading through you addition to the discussion there are several points that i
      do object to.
      There is no reason to pay a lot of money for a gps, just because your plane costs
      100.000. Arguments like this keep the price up. Paying more money does not
      auto-magically make a product better. 
      There is no reason to pay more money for a gps because you are not an electronics
      expert. The thing to do is read and absorb what the opinion is of more knowledgeable
      people. (Like myself, grin)
      A gps may never be the only way of navigation, what ever price etc. 
      You may never let your life depend on it., etc etc. 
      Direct answers to the rest of your questions, although most of them are already
      contained on other postings: 
      My globalsat BT338 typically acquires a 3 d pos in 8 secs to 40 secs, depending
      of how far it is from the position at switch off. It works under heavy cloud.
      There are no cables. The blue-tooth connection is reliable up to 10 meters. 
      The gps battery lasts 12 hrs, My HP  pda lasts 7 hrs with an extended battery.
      
      A navman is a pda with extra road navigation software, which is not needed in an
      airplane. Because of it's dedicated road function, it might be quite a struggle
      to get PocketFMS working. The built in gps chip is outdated., an external
      antenna helps and you will again have a wire to take care of.  Never buy a road
      gps to run other software, unless there is decent flying software available.
      
      What is missing so far in the discussion is the availability and price of nav updates.
      For me the only acceptable updating method is over the Internet and free,
      as is in PocketFMS. 
      
      Regards,
      
      Jos Okhuijsen
      ----------------
      Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Softening the blow | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
      
      Gerry,  I have some coolant hose on but it still clonks.
      
      Richard. 
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry
      Holland
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Softening the blow
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland
      <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
      
      Richard
      
      > I seem to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section
      with
      > something softer but can't remember what.
      
      I used a section of Fan Belt riveted and glue to a semi-circle
      Fibreglass
      bracket. You can also slide Coolant Hose, approx 1 inch internal
      diameter or
      more on the broom handle if you can get into the back.
      
      Gerry
      
      
              
              
                      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Copperstate Contact Numbers | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
      
      I am looking for a ride to the fly-in from Bishop (BIH) CA. Anybody have 
      an empty seat?
      
      Kevin
      
      N914RB wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" <n914rb@earthlink.net>
      >
      >Hi everyone,
      >
      >
      >It looks like several Europa-philes will be making it to Copperstate in Casa
      >Grande, AZ this weekend. 
      >
      >
      >Here are the contact numbers I have so far, so you can just print this out
      >and take it with you. I'm sure there will be more so just respond to this
      >message and add your name to the list. I plan to be there Friday & Saturday.
      >
      >
      >Don't forget to stop by the Army National Guard tent as Gary Roberts will be
      >there and said he'd be glad to start a sign up sheet. He's a good guy and
      >I've done my level best to teach him everything he knows about building
      >airplanes ;>)
      >
      >
      >Looking forward to seeing you all there.
      >
      >
      >Dan
      >
      >Kit A144, Tucson, AZ
      >
      >
      >=====================================================
      >
      >
      >Dan Bish                       Tucson, AZ                    520.360.9747
      >
      >
      >Paul Boulet                   Malibu, CA                           ---
      >
      >
      >Steve Hagar                   Mesa, AZ                             ---
      >
      >
      >Thomas Scherer            Los Angeles                  323.404.4044
      >
      >
      >Al Stills                         Phoenix, AZ                  623-853-6508
      >
      >
      >Erich Trombley              Las Vegas, NV              702.682.0219
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Handheld GPS recommendations | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net
      
      Do not archive.
      
      Jeff-
      
      That's just what I was looking for.  As I plan the panel I am amazed at the large
      amount of information you can get for relativeley little weight and money.
      I am doing two glass panels and having a hard time believing how much you can
      do how easily.
      
      Thanks --
      
      Jim 
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS 
      > 
      > Jim, the 396 is the exact reason the 296 is for sale. I bought a 396 
      > two weeks ago and fell in love. The 296 is almost new, with a car kit. 
      > Interested parties should contact me, off list, for pricing and 
      > particulars. The XM interface is the difference, as well as an extra 
      > $1,000... 
      > 
      > Jeff - N55XS 
      > 73 hours and lovin' it... 
      > 
      > do not archive 
      > 
      > jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: 
      > 
      > >--> Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net 
      > > 
      > >Jeff- 
      > > 
      > >If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
      
      > my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very 
      > complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite 
      > expensive, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the
      
      > 296 is the XM radio interface. 
      > > 
      > >Jim Pugise, A383 
      > > 
      > >-------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS 
      > >> 
      > >>Chris, 
      > >> 
      > >>I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will 
      > >>go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little 
      > >>better unit, drop me a line... 
      > >> 
      > >>Jeff - N55XS 
      > >>73 hours and lovin'it! 
      > >> 
      > >>do not archive 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>Chris Beck wrote: 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>>--> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck 
      > >>> 
      > >>>Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. 
      > >>> 
      > >>>I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so,
      new 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>>No, we haven't abandoned the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into
      
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her 
      > ticket, 
      > >>it's a great way to get some time. 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>>Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the
      
      > last 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er
      
      > >>done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
      
      > >>cobwebs out of the mind. 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>>Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both
      a 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
      
      > >>and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo
      
      > >>before I carry pax. 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>>As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3.
      I 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. Warm
      
      > day, 
      > >>windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty
      
      > >>nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub
      
      > made 
      > >>me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages 
      > there 
      > >>are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >>>Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! 
      > >>> 
      > >>>Chris 
      > >>>A159 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >>> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > >> 
      > > 
      > >Jeff- 
      > > 
      > >If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
      
      > my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very 
      > complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite 
      > expensive, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the
      
      > 296 is the XM radio interface. 
      > > 
      > >Jim Pugise, A383 
      > > 
      > >-------------- Original message -------------- 
      > > 
      > > -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS 
      > > 
      > > Chris, 
      > > 
      > > I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will 
      > > go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little 
      > > better unit, drop me a line... 
      > > 
      > > Jeff - N55XS 
      > > 73 hours and lovin'it! 
      > > 
      > > do not archive 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > Chris Beck wrote: 
      > > 
      > > -- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck 
      > > 
      > > Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. 
      > > 
      > > I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new
      
      > > or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. 
      > > 
      > > No, we haven't abandoned 
      > > the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into 
      > > our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her 
      > ticket, 
      > > it's a great way to get some time. 
      > > 
      > > Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the
      
      > last 
      > > several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er
      
      > > done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
      
      > > cobwebs out of the mind. 
      > > 
      > > Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both
      a 
      > > J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
      
      > > and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo
      
      > > before I carry pax. 
      > > 
      > > As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3.
      I 
      > > must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. W 
      > > arm day, 
      > > windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty
      
      > > nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub
      
      > made 
      > > me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages 
      > there 
      > > are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. 
      > > 
      > > Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! 
      > > 
      > > Chris 
      > > A159 
      > > 
      > > 
      > >&g 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      Do not archive.
      
      Jeff-
      
      That's just what I was looking for. As I plan the panel I am amazed at the large
      amount of information you can get for relativeley little weight and money. I
      am doing two glass panels and having a hard time believing how much you can do
      how easily.
      
      Thanks --
      
      Jim 
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      
       -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <TOPGLOCK@COX.NET>
      
       Jim, the 396 is the exact reason the 296 is for sale. I bought a 396 
       two weeks ago and fell in love. The 296 is almost new, with a car kit. 
       Interested parties should contact me, off list, for pricing and 
       particulars. The XM interface is the difference, as well as an extra 
       $1,000... 
      
       Jeff - N55XS 
       73 hours and lovin' it... 
      
       do not archive 
      
       jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: 
      
       -- Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net 
      
       Jeff- 
      
       If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
      
       my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a ve
       ry 
       complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite 
       expensive, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the
      
       296 is the XM radio interface. 
      
       Jim Pugise, A383 
      
       -------------- Original message -------------- 
      
      
       -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS 
      
       Chris, 
      
       I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will 
       go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little 
       better unit, drop me a line... 
      
       Jeff - N55XS 
       73 hours and lovin'it! 
      
       do not archive 
      
      
       Chris Beck wrote: 
      
      
      >
       ; -- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck 
      
       Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. 
      
       I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new
      
      
      
       or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. 
      
      
       No, we haven't abandoned the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into
      
      
      
       our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her 
       ticket, 
       it's a great way to get some time. 
      
      
       Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the 
       last 
      
      
       several years), we can start puttin
       g more time into the Europa and 'git 'er 
       done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
      
       cobwebs out of the mind. 
      
      
       Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a 
      
      
       J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
      
       and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo 
       before I carry pax. 
      
      
       As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I
      
      
      
       must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. Warm 
       day, 
       windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty 
       nervous about 
       flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub 
       made 
       me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages 
       there 
       are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. 
      
      
       Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! 
      
       Chris 
       A159 
      
      
       Jeff- 
      
       If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put
      
       my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very 
       complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite 
       expensiv
       e, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the 
       296 is the XM radio interface. 
      
       Jim Pugise, A383 
      
       -------------- Original message -------------- 
      
        -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <TOPGLOCK@COX.NET>
      
        Chris, 
      
        I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will 
        go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little 
        better unit, drop me a line... 
      
        Jeff - N55XS 
        73 hours and lovin'it! 
      
        do not archive 
      
      
        Chris Beck wrote: 
      
        -- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck <N9ZES@VERIZON.NET>
      
        Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. 
      
        I'm looking for recommendations
        on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new 
        or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. 
      
        No, we haven't abandoned 
        the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into 
        our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her 
       ticket, 
        it's a great way to get some time. 
      
        Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the 
       last 
        several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er 
        done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the
      
        cobwebs out of the mind. 
      
        Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a
      
        J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff
      
        and 10 hours of dual that my insu
       rance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo 
        before I carry pax. 
      
        As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I
      
        must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. W 
        arm day, 
        windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty 
        nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub 
       made 
        me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages 
       there 
        are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. 
      
        Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! 
      
        Chris 
        A159 
      
      
       g 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Handheld GPS recommendations | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      
      JR(Bob) Gowing,
                  I appreciate your caution in sending out the buddy's 
      suggestions, but have the following to mind:
      
      "It seems unreasoned to me that a person would spend $100,000 on an 
      aeroplane and, after absorbing a miniscule amount of experience in 
      electronics would choose the cheapest, cobbled together GPS system they can 
      find!"
                  At the price, get three, use two, save one. My Dad was a 
      cobbler.
      
      "Your life may depend on your GPS!"
                  If it does, someone is in the wrong hobby.
      
      " How long does the system take to acquire the satellites after powering 
      up?"
                  It may not matter if the second system is running (independent 
      power)See the answer to the first question, above.
      
      "Does the system function under heavy cloud?"
                  Depends on how heavy. I haven't seen any yet.
      
      "How reliable are all of the cables and connections? (There is significant 
      vibration in an aeroplane)"
                  About the same as the battery cable.
      
      "It contains a built-in GPS unit that requires no cables to operate."
                  Good idea. Watch for new models.
      
      "An external powered antenna is available that has a gain of more than 20dB. 
      This will receive weak signals even through clouds, or wet leaves on trees 
      if you are in to low flying."
                  True of any system - get two and still save. Give up low flying.
      
      "The unit can be used in your car to guide you to and from the airport."
                  Yup, the wrong hobby altogether.
      
      "The Pin runs Windows CE and so will run your cheap GPS software of
       which I know nothing, but I urge you to obtain the best software that is
       available regardless of cost."
                  That may still be true of the Pin with PocketFMS. It pays to 
      investigate before leaping.
                  I am sure there are other considerations as well but often the 
      best move is on the advice of a seasoned and trustworthy fellow flyer. It's 
      akin to the "local Knowledge" that mariners depend on .
      Cheers, Ferg
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | VDO Sensor Information | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
      
      If you are using VDO resistive sensors for temp or pressure, charts for resistance vs temp or press are at www.sso-usa.com/performance/technical support/bulletins.html. You can also access part number references so you can determine the range of your sensor. For instance, Rotax uses 801/10/1 CHT sensors on my 914. The cross reference shows this is a 0 - 300 deg F sensor, so I used that table to program my EFIS.
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Copperstate Contact Numbers | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
      
      I won't be there- couldn't find a ride.... we need more west coast Europaphiles!
      Paul Boulet
      
      N914RB <n914rb@earthlink.net> wrote:
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" 
      
      Hi everyone,
      
      
      It looks like several Europa-philes will be making it to Copperstate in Casa
      Grande, AZ this weekend. 
      
      
      Here are the contact numbers I have so far, so you can just print this out
      and take it with you. I'm sure there will be more so just respond to this
      message and add your name to the list. I plan to be there Friday & Saturday.
      
      
      Don't forget to stop by the Army National Guard tent as Gary Roberts will be
      there and said he'd be glad to start a sign up sheet. He's a good guy and
      I've done my level best to teach him everything he knows about building
      airplanes ;>)
      
      
      Looking forward to seeing you all there.
      
      
      Dan
      
      Kit A144, Tucson, AZ
      
      
      =====================================================
      
      
      Dan Bish Tucson, AZ 520.360.9747
      
      
      Paul Boulet Malibu, CA ---
      
      
      Steve Hagar Mesa, AZ ---
      
      
      Thomas Scherer Los Angeles 323.404.4044
      
      
      Al Stills Phoenix, AZ 623-853-6508
      
      
      Erich Trombley Las Vegas, NV 702.682.0219
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Handheld GPS recommendations | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
      
      Hey Ferg.
      
      I use a "road going" GPS to get to the airport, usually when I land away
      somewhere and cant remember where I left the aircraft (or sometimes what
      aircraft I left). Beer is a wonderful thing isn't it. Now what other
      hobby do you suggest?
      Incidentally I agree with everything you said. I too subscribe to the
      "have to many" theory and always carry at least two units.
      Cheers
      
      Alan
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Handheld GPS recommendations
      
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      
      JR(Bob) Gowing,
                  I appreciate your caution in sending out the buddy's 
      suggestions, but have the following to mind:
      
      "It seems unreasoned to me that a person would spend $100,000 on an 
      aeroplane and, after absorbing a miniscule amount of experience in 
      electronics would choose the cheapest, cobbled together GPS system they
      can 
      find!"
                  At the price, get three, use two, save one. My Dad was a 
      cobbler.
      
      "Your life may depend on your GPS!"
                  If it does, someone is in the wrong hobby.
      
      " How long does the system take to acquire the satellites after powering
      
      up?"
                  It may not matter if the second system is running
      (independent 
      power)See the answer to the first question, above.
      
      "Does the system function under heavy cloud?"
                  Depends on how heavy. I haven't seen any yet.
      
      "How reliable are all of the cables and connections? (There is
      significant 
      vibration in an aeroplane)"
                  About the same as the battery cable.
      
      "It contains a built-in GPS unit that requires no cables to operate."
                  Good idea. Watch for new models.
      
      "An external powered antenna is available that has a gain of more than
      20dB. 
      This will receive weak signals even through clouds, or wet leaves on
      trees 
      if you are in to low flying."
                  True of any system - get two and still save. Give up low
      flying.
      
      "The unit can be used in your car to guide you to and from the airport."
                  Yup, the wrong hobby altogether.
      
      "The Pin runs Windows CE and so will run your cheap GPS software of
      which I know nothing, but I urge you to obtain the best software that is
      available regardless of cost."
                  That may still be true of the Pin with PocketFMS. It pays to
      
      investigate before leaping.
                  I am sure there are other considerations as well but often
      the 
      best move is on the advice of a seasoned and trustworthy fellow flyer.
      It's 
      akin to the "local Knowledge" that mariners depend on .
      Cheers, Ferg
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: Handheld GPS recommendations | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
      
      > A navman is a pda with extra road navigation software, which is not needed in
      > an airplane. Because of it's dedicated road function, it might be quite a
      > struggle to get PocketFMS working. The built in gps chip is outdated., an
      > external antenna helps and you will again have a wire to take care of.  Never
      > buy a road gps to run other software, unless there is decent flying software
      > available.
      
      The Navman Pin comes with Smart ST Car Navigation software but is General
      GPS/PDA. The Car navigation can be deleted. In fact it's a Mitac Mio 168
      that can be purchased with No GPS programmes, just the Hardware and Win CE.
      It costs 200 in UK with VAT and no GPS Programme.
      
      The other Car Navman Units are not good for Aircraft.
      
      As for sizing of Memory Cards.
      
      Pocket FMS
      
      My 256 Mb Wi-Fi SD Card holds 5 Pocket FMS FIR's. It also allows PDA to
      download Weather directly to programme prior to Flight Plan execution.
      
      Gerry
      
      
                      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Softening the blow | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
      
      Richard,
      From memory I used a bolt and slid some rubber hose onto it to soften the 
      bump.
      Cheers,
      Tim
      Tim Ward
      12 Waiwetu Street,
      Fendalton,
      Christchurch, 8005
      New Zealand.
      Ph +64 3 3515166
      Mobile 021 0640221
      ward.t@xtra.co.nz
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
      Subject: Europa-List: Softening the blow
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
      >
      > Having just replaced the pins in my tailplane torque tube, and not
      > wishing to repeat the process in a hurry, I am looking for a way to
      > cushion the bump stops for the mass balance weight to soften the 'clonk'
      > as it hits them and, hopefully, reduce the wear on the new pins. I seem
      > to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section with
      > something softer but can't remember what.
      >
      > Can someone refresh my memory?
      >
      > Richard Iddon G-RIXS
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      
      Curious, if you land a XS Monowheel with 700 x 6 tire and 914 with
      Airmaster with a flat tire, will the prop hit the ground?
      
      Thx.
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
      
      Hi all,
      
      I had my tyre deflate on landing once, so I can say for sure that the prop 
      won't hit the ground.  The landing roll is real short as well !!
      
      The tyre had rubbed through due to being kept at 18 psi and the landing must 
      have stretched the tube enough for it to deflate.  I now change the tube 
      every year  as a preventative measure.
      
      Paul
      
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| Subject:  | Re: VDO Sensor Information | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      
      Jim,
                  My computor says this page cannot be 
      found......................?
      Cheers, Ferg
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
      Subject: Europa-List: VDO Sensor Information
      
      
      | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
      |
      | If you are using VDO resistive sensors for temp or pressure, charts for 
      resistance vs temp or press are at www.sso-usa.com/performance/technical 
      support/bulletins.html. You can also access part number references so you 
      can determine the range of your sensor. For instance, Rotax uses 801/10/1 
      CHT sensors on my 914. The cross reference shows this is a 0 - 300 deg F 
      sensor, so I used that table to program my EFIS.
      |
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      | 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
      
      Jeff,
      Sorry to use the list but your e-mail is returning to me for some 
      reason. I probably made a mistake when I copied it.  Just wanted to 
      thank you for the Lettering. E-Mail me direct off list with your 
      contact info if you don't mind.
      Thanks,
      Jeff
      N128LJ
      Do not archive.
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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