---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/06/05: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:52 AM - Softening the blow (Richard Iddon) 2. 02:25 AM - Re: Softening the blow (Gerry Holland) 3. 02:42 AM - Re: Re: PDA GPS (Gerry Holland) 4. 04:10 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (josok) 5. 04:28 AM - Re: Softening the blow (Richard Iddon) 6. 05:30 AM - Re: Copperstate Contact Numbers (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter) 7. 06:15 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 8. 07:55 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (Fergus Kyle) 9. 09:07 AM - VDO Sensor Information (Jim Butcher) 10. 09:45 AM - Re: Copperstate Contact Numbers (Paul Boulet) 11. 09:50 AM - Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (Alan Burrows) 12. 12:33 PM - Re: Re: Handheld GPS recommendations (Gerry Holland) 13. 12:53 PM - Re: Softening the blow (Tim Ward) 14. 04:25 PM - Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? () 15. 05:14 PM - Re: Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? (Paul McAllister) 16. 07:46 PM - Re: VDO Sensor Information (Fergus Kyle) 17. 08:19 PM - Baby Blue Owner (JEFF ROBERTS) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:36 AM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: Europa-List: Softening the blow 1.67 SARE_ADLTSUB2 Contains possible adult words --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" Having just replaced the pins in my tailplane torque tube, and not wishing to repeat the process in a hurry, I am looking for a way to cushion the bump stops for the mass balance weight to soften the 'clonk' as it hits them and, hopefully, reduce the wear on the new pins. I seem to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section with something softer but can't remember what. Can someone refresh my memory? Richard Iddon G-RIXS ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Softening the blow From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Richard > I seem to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section with > something softer but can't remember what. I used a section of Fan Belt riveted and glue to a semi-circle Fibreglass bracket. You can also slide Coolant Hose, approx 1 inch internal diameter or more on the broom handle if you can get into the back. Gerry ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:42:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: PDA GPS From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Try Mitac Mio 168 GPS/PDA. It has GPS built in with flip up Aerial. Around 200 incl. VAT. Great PDA too with MS Win CE 2003 and Car Kit. http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/m-mio-brl.html Pocket FMS runs a treat on it. You may need to purchase a screen protector to reduce the glare in the very open Europa cockpit. Gerry ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:12 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: RE: Handheld GPS recommendations From: "josok" 0.64 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty --> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" JR, Reading through you addition to the discussion there are several points that i do object to. There is no reason to pay a lot of money for a gps, just because your plane costs 100.000. Arguments like this keep the price up. Paying more money does not auto-magically make a product better. There is no reason to pay more money for a gps because you are not an electronics expert. The thing to do is read and absorb what the opinion is of more knowledgeable people. (Like myself, grin) A gps may never be the only way of navigation, what ever price etc. You may never let your life depend on it., etc etc. Direct answers to the rest of your questions, although most of them are already contained on other postings: My globalsat BT338 typically acquires a 3 d pos in 8 secs to 40 secs, depending of how far it is from the position at switch off. It works under heavy cloud. There are no cables. The blue-tooth connection is reliable up to 10 meters. The gps battery lasts 12 hrs, My HP pda lasts 7 hrs with an extended battery. A navman is a pda with extra road navigation software, which is not needed in an airplane. Because of it's dedicated road function, it might be quite a struggle to get PocketFMS working. The built in gps chip is outdated., an external antenna helps and you will again have a wire to take care of. Never buy a road gps to run other software, unless there is decent flying software available. What is missing so far in the discussion is the availability and price of nav updates. For me the only acceptable updating method is over the Internet and free, as is in PocketFMS. Regards, Jos Okhuijsen ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:44 AM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Softening the blow --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" Gerry, I have some coolant hose on but it still clonks. Richard. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Holland Subject: Re: Europa-List: Softening the blow --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland Richard > I seem to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section with > something softer but can't remember what. I used a section of Fan Belt riveted and glue to a semi-circle Fibreglass bracket. You can also slide Coolant Hose, approx 1 inch internal diameter or more on the broom handle if you can get into the back. Gerry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:50 AM PST US From: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter Subject: Re: Europa-List: Copperstate Contact Numbers --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter I am looking for a ride to the fly-in from Bishop (BIH) CA. Anybody have an empty seat? Kevin N914RB wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" > >Hi everyone, > > >It looks like several Europa-philes will be making it to Copperstate in Casa >Grande, AZ this weekend. > > >Here are the contact numbers I have so far, so you can just print this out >and take it with you. I'm sure there will be more so just respond to this >message and add your name to the list. I plan to be there Friday & Saturday. > > >Don't forget to stop by the Army National Guard tent as Gary Roberts will be >there and said he'd be glad to start a sign up sheet. He's a good guy and >I've done my level best to teach him everything he knows about building >airplanes ;>) > > >Looking forward to seeing you all there. > > >Dan > >Kit A144, Tucson, AZ > > >===================================================== > > >Dan Bish Tucson, AZ 520.360.9747 > > >Paul Boulet Malibu, CA --- > > >Steve Hagar Mesa, AZ --- > > >Thomas Scherer Los Angeles 323.404.4044 > > >Al Stills Phoenix, AZ 623-853-6508 > > >Erich Trombley Las Vegas, NV 702.682.0219 > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:18 AM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Handheld GPS recommendations --> Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net Do not archive. Jeff- That's just what I was looking for. As I plan the panel I am amazed at the large amount of information you can get for relativeley little weight and money. I am doing two glass panels and having a hard time believing how much you can do how easily. Thanks -- Jim -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS > > Jim, the 396 is the exact reason the 296 is for sale. I bought a 396 > two weeks ago and fell in love. The 296 is almost new, with a car kit. > Interested parties should contact me, off list, for pricing and > particulars. The XM interface is the difference, as well as an extra > $1,000... > > Jeff - N55XS > 73 hours and lovin' it... > > do not archive > > jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net > > > >Jeff- > > > >If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put > my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very > complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite > expensive, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the > 296 is the XM radio interface. > > > >Jim Pugise, A383 > > > >-------------- Original message -------------- > > > > > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS > >> > >>Chris, > >> > >>I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will > >>go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little > >>better unit, drop me a line... > >> > >>Jeff - N55XS > >>73 hours and lovin'it! > >> > >>do not archive > >> > >> > >>Chris Beck wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>--> Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck > >>> > >>>Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. > >>> > >>>I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new > >>> > >>> > >>or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. > >> > >> > >>>No, we haven't abandoned the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into > >>> > >>> > >>our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her > ticket, > >>it's a great way to get some time. > >> > >> > >>>Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the > last > >>> > >>> > >>several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er > >>done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the > >>cobwebs out of the mind. > >> > >> > >>>Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a > >>> > >>> > >>J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff > >>and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo > >>before I carry pax. > >> > >> > >>>As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I > >>> > >>> > >>must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. Warm > day, > >>windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty > >>nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub > made > >>me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages > there > >>are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. > >> > >> > >>>Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! > >>> > >>>Chris > >>>A159 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >Jeff- > > > >If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put > my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very > complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite > expensive, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the > 296 is the XM radio interface. > > > >Jim Pugise, A383 > > > >-------------- Original message -------------- > > > > -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS > > > > Chris, > > > > I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will > > go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little > > better unit, drop me a line... > > > > Jeff - N55XS > > 73 hours and lovin'it! > > > > do not archive > > > > > > Chris Beck wrote: > > > > -- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck > > > > Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. > > > > I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new > > or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. > > > > No, we haven't abandoned > > the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into > > our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her > ticket, > > it's a great way to get some time. > > > > Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the > last > > several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er > > done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the > > cobwebs out of the mind. > > > > Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a > > J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff > > and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo > > before I carry pax. > > > > As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I > > must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. W > > arm day, > > windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty > > nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub > made > > me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages > there > > are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. > > > > Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! > > > > Chris > > A159 > > > > > >&g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not archive. Jeff- That's just what I was looking for. As I plan the panel I am amazed at the large amount of information you can get for relativeley little weight and money. I am doing two glass panels and having a hard time believing how much you can do how easily. Thanks -- Jim -------------- Original message -------------- -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS Jim, the 396 is the exact reason the 296 is for sale. I bought a 396 two weeks ago and fell in love. The 296 is almost new, with a car kit. Interested parties should contact me, off list, for pricing and particulars. The XM interface is the difference, as well as an extra $1,000... Jeff - N55XS 73 hours and lovin' it... do not archive jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: -- Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net Jeff- If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a ve ry complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite expensive, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the 296 is the XM radio interface. Jim Pugise, A383 -------------- Original message -------------- -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS Chris, I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little better unit, drop me a line... Jeff - N55XS 73 hours and lovin'it! do not archive Chris Beck wrote: > ; -- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. No, we haven't abandoned the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her ticket, it's a great way to get some time. Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the last several years), we can start puttin g more time into the Europa and 'git 'er done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the cobwebs out of the mind. Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff and 10 hours of dual that my insurance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo before I carry pax. As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. Warm day, windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub made me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages there are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! Chris A159 Jeff- If you don't mind, can I ask why you are dumping the 296? I am starting to put my panel together and had planned to put a 396 in. There was a very complimentary article in "Flying" this month and it appears to be quite expensiv e, but full of features. I think the only difference between it and the 296 is the XM radio interface. Jim Pugise, A383 -------------- Original message -------------- -- Europa-List message posted by: N55XS Chris, I do have a Garmin 296 w/ car kit, for sale. It is almost new, but will go for a bit more than you stated. If you decide to invest in a little better unit, drop me a line... Jeff - N55XS 73 hours and lovin'it! do not archive Chris Beck wrote: -- Europa-List message posted by: Chris Beck Sorry about that, hit the send button too soon. I'm looking for recommendations on a handheld GPS unit, under $500 or so, new or recent used model, to go into our recently purchased 1946 Cessna 140. No, we haven't abandoned the Europa project, but this opportunity popped into our lap, and since I need tailwheel time and my wonderful wife needs her ticket, it's a great way to get some time. Now that our son is almost 3 (which is where all our time has gone for the last several years), we can start putting more time into the Europa and 'git 'er done'. The Cessna will be a nice diversion after a day of building to get the cobwebs out of the mind. Fortunately, the airport we are based at (Poplar Grove, IL - C77) has both a J-3 Cub and a 140 available for instruction and rental, so can get my signoff and 10 hours of dual that my insu rance requires. Then I need 10 hours solo before I carry pax. As an aside, I took my first tailwheel lesson this past weekend in the J-3. I must say it was the most fun I've had with clothes on in a long time. W arm day, windows open, grass strip. That's the way it's supposed to be. I was pretty nervous about flying a taildragger, but it was really pretty easy. The Cub made me look good, though. With the instructor up front blocking the few gages there are, one quickly learns just to listen and feel the plane. Anyway, thanks for any info on the GPS units! Chris A159 g ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:13 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Handheld GPS recommendations --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" JR(Bob) Gowing, I appreciate your caution in sending out the buddy's suggestions, but have the following to mind: "It seems unreasoned to me that a person would spend $100,000 on an aeroplane and, after absorbing a miniscule amount of experience in electronics would choose the cheapest, cobbled together GPS system they can find!" At the price, get three, use two, save one. My Dad was a cobbler. "Your life may depend on your GPS!" If it does, someone is in the wrong hobby. " How long does the system take to acquire the satellites after powering up?" It may not matter if the second system is running (independent power)See the answer to the first question, above. "Does the system function under heavy cloud?" Depends on how heavy. I haven't seen any yet. "How reliable are all of the cables and connections? (There is significant vibration in an aeroplane)" About the same as the battery cable. "It contains a built-in GPS unit that requires no cables to operate." Good idea. Watch for new models. "An external powered antenna is available that has a gain of more than 20dB. This will receive weak signals even through clouds, or wet leaves on trees if you are in to low flying." True of any system - get two and still save. Give up low flying. "The unit can be used in your car to guide you to and from the airport." Yup, the wrong hobby altogether. "The Pin runs Windows CE and so will run your cheap GPS software of which I know nothing, but I urge you to obtain the best software that is available regardless of cost." That may still be true of the Pin with PocketFMS. It pays to investigate before leaping. I am sure there are other considerations as well but often the best move is on the advice of a seasoned and trustworthy fellow flyer. It's akin to the "local Knowledge" that mariners depend on . Cheers, Ferg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:39 AM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: VDO Sensor Information --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" If you are using VDO resistive sensors for temp or pressure, charts for resistance vs temp or press are at www.sso-usa.com/performance/technical support/bulletins.html. You can also access part number references so you can determine the range of your sensor. For instance, Rotax uses 801/10/1 CHT sensors on my 914. The cross reference shows this is a 0 - 300 deg F sensor, so I used that table to program my EFIS. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:03 AM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: Copperstate Contact Numbers --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet I won't be there- couldn't find a ride.... we need more west coast Europaphiles! Paul Boulet N914RB wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" Hi everyone, It looks like several Europa-philes will be making it to Copperstate in Casa Grande, AZ this weekend. Here are the contact numbers I have so far, so you can just print this out and take it with you. I'm sure there will be more so just respond to this message and add your name to the list. I plan to be there Friday & Saturday. Don't forget to stop by the Army National Guard tent as Gary Roberts will be there and said he'd be glad to start a sign up sheet. He's a good guy and I've done my level best to teach him everything he knows about building airplanes ;>) Looking forward to seeing you all there. Dan Kit A144, Tucson, AZ ===================================================== Dan Bish Tucson, AZ 520.360.9747 Paul Boulet Malibu, CA --- Steve Hagar Mesa, AZ --- Thomas Scherer Los Angeles 323.404.4044 Al Stills Phoenix, AZ 623-853-6508 Erich Trombley Las Vegas, NV 702.682.0219 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:28 AM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Handheld GPS recommendations --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" Hey Ferg. I use a "road going" GPS to get to the airport, usually when I land away somewhere and cant remember where I left the aircraft (or sometimes what aircraft I left). Beer is a wonderful thing isn't it. Now what other hobby do you suggest? Incidentally I agree with everything you said. I too subscribe to the "have to many" theory and always carry at least two units. Cheers Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle Subject: Re: Europa-List: Handheld GPS recommendations --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" JR(Bob) Gowing, I appreciate your caution in sending out the buddy's suggestions, but have the following to mind: "It seems unreasoned to me that a person would spend $100,000 on an aeroplane and, after absorbing a miniscule amount of experience in electronics would choose the cheapest, cobbled together GPS system they can find!" At the price, get three, use two, save one. My Dad was a cobbler. "Your life may depend on your GPS!" If it does, someone is in the wrong hobby. " How long does the system take to acquire the satellites after powering up?" It may not matter if the second system is running (independent power)See the answer to the first question, above. "Does the system function under heavy cloud?" Depends on how heavy. I haven't seen any yet. "How reliable are all of the cables and connections? (There is significant vibration in an aeroplane)" About the same as the battery cable. "It contains a built-in GPS unit that requires no cables to operate." Good idea. Watch for new models. "An external powered antenna is available that has a gain of more than 20dB. This will receive weak signals even through clouds, or wet leaves on trees if you are in to low flying." True of any system - get two and still save. Give up low flying. "The unit can be used in your car to guide you to and from the airport." Yup, the wrong hobby altogether. "The Pin runs Windows CE and so will run your cheap GPS software of which I know nothing, but I urge you to obtain the best software that is available regardless of cost." That may still be true of the Pin with PocketFMS. It pays to investigate before leaping. I am sure there are other considerations as well but often the best move is on the advice of a seasoned and trustworthy fellow flyer. It's akin to the "local Knowledge" that mariners depend on . Cheers, Ferg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:33:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Handheld GPS recommendations From: Gerry Holland --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland > A navman is a pda with extra road navigation software, which is not needed in > an airplane. Because of it's dedicated road function, it might be quite a > struggle to get PocketFMS working. The built in gps chip is outdated., an > external antenna helps and you will again have a wire to take care of. Never > buy a road gps to run other software, unless there is decent flying software > available. The Navman Pin comes with Smart ST Car Navigation software but is General GPS/PDA. The Car navigation can be deleted. In fact it's a Mitac Mio 168 that can be purchased with No GPS programmes, just the Hardware and Win CE. It costs 200 in UK with VAT and no GPS Programme. The other Car Navman Units are not good for Aircraft. As for sizing of Memory Cards. Pocket FMS My 256 Mb Wi-Fi SD Card holds 5 Pocket FMS FIR's. It also allows PDA to download Weather directly to programme prior to Flight Plan execution. Gerry ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:53:11 PM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Softening the blow --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" Richard, From memory I used a bolt and slid some rubber hose onto it to soften the bump. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: Europa-List: Softening the blow > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" > > Having just replaced the pins in my tailplane torque tube, and not > wishing to repeat the process in a hurry, I am looking for a way to > cushion the bump stops for the mass balance weight to soften the 'clonk' > as it hits them and, hopefully, reduce the wear on the new pins. I seem > to recall that someone has replaced the broom handle section with > something softer but can't remember what. > > Can someone refresh my memory? > > Richard Iddon G-RIXS > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:05 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? From: --> Europa-List message posted by: Curious, if you land a XS Monowheel with 700 x 6 tire and 914 with Airmaster with a flat tire, will the prop hit the ground? Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:56 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Will landing Monowheel with flat hurt prop? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi all, I had my tyre deflate on landing once, so I can say for sure that the prop won't hit the ground. The landing roll is real short as well !! The tyre had rubbed through due to being kept at 18 psi and the landing must have stretched the tube enough for it to deflate. I now change the tube every year as a preventative measure. Paul do not archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:46:43 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: VDO Sensor Information --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Jim, My computor says this page cannot be found......................? Cheers, Ferg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: VDO Sensor Information | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" | | If you are using VDO resistive sensors for temp or pressure, charts for resistance vs temp or press are at www.sso-usa.com/performance/technical support/bulletins.html. You can also access part number references so you can determine the range of your sensor. For instance, Rotax uses 801/10/1 CHT sensors on my 914. The cross reference shows this is a 0 - 300 deg F sensor, so I used that table to program my EFIS. | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:53 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Europa-List: Baby Blue Owner --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS Jeff, Sorry to use the list but your e-mail is returning to me for some reason. I probably made a mistake when I copied it. Just wanted to thank you for the Lettering. E-Mail me direct off list with your contact info if you don't mind. Thanks, Jeff N128LJ Do not archive.