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     1. 05:34 AM - Good News!  (Bill and Sue)
     2. 06:22 AM - Re: Good News! (Jeremy Davey)
     3. 12:38 PM - Ultimate speed mod. (Duncan McFadyean)
     4. 01:07 PM - Some Photos from Rougham  (Gerry Holland)
     5. 03:29 PM - Re: Fw: Evans coolant (N55XS)
     6. 03:35 PM - Re: Naca / Paint (N55XS)
     7. 05:03 PM - Re: Naca / Paint ()
     8. 05:04 PM - Re: Fw: Evans coolant (Dean Seitz)
     9. 06:16 PM - Re: Naca / Paint (SteveD)
    10. 06:24 PM - first flight (Jim Brown)
    11. 06:28 PM - Re: Fw: Evans coolant (N55XS)
    12. 09:06 PM - Re: Re: Naca / Paint (Cliff Shaw)
    13. 09:24 PM - Re: Fw: Evans coolant (Mike Parkin)
 
 
 
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill and Sue" <billandsue@billbell.co.uk>
      
      Well it was news to me. I was summoned by Her Majesty's valiant Customs
      and Excise investigation team to explain my temerity in seeking to
      reclaim duty paid on exported fuel, depriving Mr Brown of the funds to
      pursue the Governments urgent crackdown on elderly gentlemen at party
      conferences.
      
      In the course of Her Majesty's Finest checking my story and subjecting
      my fuel receipts and logbook to forensic examination 
      I have discovered that the rate for "ultra low sulphur unleaded petrol"
      (Mogas to you) is 47.1p/Litre, rather more attractive than Avgas at
      28.1P/Litre.
      
      Now, not a lot of people know that. Well not me anyway.
      Another reason to pull out the Europa and motor over to foreign shores.
      
      Toodle Pip!
      
      
      Bill
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
      
      Excellent. You can buy the first round of drinks! :-)
      
      Cheers,
      Jeremy
      
      Jeremy Davey
      Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
      Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
      PFA EC Member
      "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
      possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
      Tail done
      Standard XS wings with mods underway
      CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
      1430 build hours to date
      Intended fit:
      Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
      Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Sue
      Subject: Europa-List: Good News! 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill and Sue"
      <billandsue@billbell.co.uk>
      
      Well it was news to me. I was summoned by Her Majesty's valiant Customs
      and Excise investigation team to explain my temerity in seeking to
      reclaim duty paid on exported fuel, depriving Mr Brown of the funds to
      pursue the Governments urgent crackdown on elderly gentlemen at party
      conferences.
      
      In the course of Her Majesty's Finest checking my story and subjecting
      my fuel receipts and logbook to forensic examination 
      I have discovered that the rate for "ultra low sulphur unleaded petrol"
      (Mogas to you) is 47.1p/Litre, rather more attractive than Avgas at
      28.1P/Litre.
      
      Now, not a lot of people know that. Well not me anyway.
      Another reason to pull out the Europa and motor over to foreign shores.
      
      Toodle Pip!
      
      
      Bill
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Ultimate speed mod. | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
      
      Speed mods. now available on Ebay:
      
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dago-Red-Race-4-Worlds-fastest-P-51-Mustang_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ63679QQitemZ4581523852QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
      
      Duncan McF.
      Do not archive 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Some Photos from Rougham  | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
      
      This URL shows pictures of the Europa's and other Aircraft who visited the
      Ploughs to Propellors Fly-in at Rougham, near Bury St Edmunds on October
      2nd.
      
      http://www.futurshox.net/aerolistbyshow.php3?event=145#145
      
      Rougham was a USAF Air Base during WWII hosting B17's.
      
      Gerry Holland
      
      
                      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fw: Evans coolant | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
      
      When I was doing taxi testing on N55XS, I was experiencing very high 
      coolant temps.  So I flushed the 50/50 glycol/water mix, lowered the 
      collant radiator about 1" and installed a rubber seal to the bottom, so 
      that it would seal to the cowl.  I then installed the Evans coolant.  
      Not only did the boiling go away, but the temps actually dropped, while 
      still allowing the oil temp to to get up, in cool weather.  This is a 
      much better option, than dropping the oil cooler, in my opinion.  At any 
      rate, I have zero problems with coolant temps...
      
      Jeff - N55XS
      89 hours...
      
      Bill & Sue Sisley wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
      >
      >
      >Sue and Bill
      >
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: Bill & Sue Sisley
      >To:
      >Subject: Evans coolant
      >
      >
      >I have recently changed to Evans Coolant from 50/50 Water/Antifreeze.
      >My cyl head temp is now running approx 20 deg centigrade higher than before. Oil
      temp has not changed.
      >
      >My cooling system is as per the book.
      >Anyone else had any experience with this?
      >
      >XS Mono
      >914
      >Airmaster CS
      >360 Hrs
      >
      >Sue and Bill
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Naca / Paint | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
      
      Paul,  go to http//www.n55xs.com and then to the June 26, 2004 entry to 
      see what I did to solve the pressurization problems.  I get excellent 
      air flow and there is a slight positive pressure in the aft of the fuse, 
      which keeps any stray exhaust from entering through the flap holes...
      
      Jeff - N55XS
      89 hours...
      
      Paul McAllister wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
      >
      >Mike,
      >
      >Many people, including myself have discarded them.  I put a heat box on the 
      >firewall and brought the air in through the panel.  It works okay, quite 
      >frankly it would work much better if I could come up with a good system of 
      >getting the air out of the cabin.  I am waiting for someone else to come up 
      >with a flight proven solution for that one.
      >
      >Paul 
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
      
      Hi Paul
      
      I have seen people obtain negative pressure in the aft compartment by using
      Bernoulli device called an "extractor."  I had drawings of it but cannot
      find them.  It looks simple to make and of negligible drag.  You might find
      it with a Google search.
      
      Tom Friedland  (painted!  Now reinstall the flying surfaces and the bloody
      fairings and then to the airport.)
      
      Do not archive
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N55XS
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Naca / Paint
      
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
      
      Paul,  go to http//www.n55xs.com and then to the June 26, 2004 entry to 
      see what I did to solve the pressurization problems.  I get excellent 
      air flow and there is a slight positive pressure in the aft of the fuse, 
      which keeps any stray exhaust from entering through the flap holes...
      
      Jeff - N55XS
      89 hours...
      
      Paul McAllister wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" 
      >--> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
      >
      >Mike,
      >
      >Many people, including myself have discarded them.  I put a heat box on 
      >the
      >firewall and brought the air in through the panel.  It works okay, quite 
      >frankly it would work much better if I could come up with a good system of 
      >getting the air out of the cabin.  I am waiting for someone else to come up
      
      >with a flight proven solution for that one.
      >
      >Paul
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      -- 
      
      
      -- 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fw: Evans coolant | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
      
      Jeff
      What are your oil and head temps running at in cruse and climb?  I did
      almost the same thing with the coolers.
      
      Dean Seitz
      N284A  10 Hrs left to 40.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N55XS
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Evans coolant
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
      
      When I was doing taxi testing on N55XS, I was experiencing very high 
      coolant temps.  So I flushed the 50/50 glycol/water mix, lowered the 
      collant radiator about 1" and installed a rubber seal to the bottom, so 
      that it would seal to the cowl.  I then installed the Evans coolant.  
      Not only did the boiling go away, but the temps actually dropped, while 
      still allowing the oil temp to to get up, in cool weather.  This is a 
      much better option, than dropping the oil cooler, in my opinion.  At any 
      rate, I have zero problems with coolant temps...
      
      Jeff - N55XS
      89 hours...
      
      Bill & Sue Sisley wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
      >
      >
      >Sue and Bill
      >
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: Bill & Sue Sisley
      >To:
      >Subject: Evans coolant
      >
      >
      >I have recently changed to Evans Coolant from 50/50 Water/Antifreeze.
      >My cyl head temp is now running approx 20 deg centigrade higher than
      before. Oil temp has not changed.
      >
      >My cooling system is as per the book.
      >Anyone else had any experience with this?
      >
      >XS Mono
      >914
      >Airmaster CS
      >360 Hrs
      >
      >Sue and Bill
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Naca / Paint | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
      
      Googled up some reading on air flow from Cafe Foundation. Part II has some good
      stuff about inlets and extractors ...
      
      http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=7936#7936
      
      Steved
      ----------------
      Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
      
      As a lot of our Europa friends know, Augustene and I built our XS mono
      wheel and flew it for the first time way back in April, 2000.
      
      For the past year and a half we have been at it again. This time we have
      built a Van's RV-7A with the Superior XP IO-360 engine  and a Hartzel
      C/S prop. The panel holds the Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS-1 system.
      
      Our son Bob had first flight honors today at 4:00 PM.Oct 17th 2005,
      N112B flew about 35 minutes on the first flight at Leesburg, Florida.
      (LEE)
      
      I'm not sure which is more nerve wracking, doing the flight, or setting
      on the ground watching your son do the flight.
      
      Jim and Augustene
      N398JB
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fw: Evans coolant | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
      
      CHT:  250 - 275
      Oil Temp: 190 - 220
      Water Temp:  180 - 225
      These are observed in take off, climb and cruise.  Haven't had any 
      indication of overheating in any flying or taxiing configuration.  
      Engine is a 912S with 89 hours on it.  Latest flight was a 700+ mile 
      cross country (each way) this weekend.  13 + hours, running both 93 
      octane MOGAS and 100LL.  Only problem experienced was removing the ice 
      from the wings, before leaving WV, this morning... ;)
      
      Jeff - N55XS
      89 hours...
      
      Dean Seitz wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
      >
      >Jeff
      >What are your oil and head temps running at in cruse and climb?  I did
      >almost the same thing with the coolers.
      >
      >Dean Seitz
      >N284A  10 Hrs left to 40.
      >
      >-----Original Message-----
      >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N55XS
      >To: europa-list@matronics.com
      >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Evans coolant
      >
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
      >
      >When I was doing taxi testing on N55XS, I was experiencing very high 
      >coolant temps.  So I flushed the 50/50 glycol/water mix, lowered the 
      >collant radiator about 1" and installed a rubber seal to the bottom, so 
      >that it would seal to the cowl.  I then installed the Evans coolant.  
      >Not only did the boiling go away, but the temps actually dropped, while 
      >still allowing the oil temp to to get up, in cool weather.  This is a 
      >much better option, than dropping the oil cooler, in my opinion.  At any 
      >rate, I have zero problems with coolant temps...
      >
      >Jeff - N55XS
      >89 hours...
      >
      >Bill & Sue Sisley wrote:
      >
      >  
      >
      >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
      >>
      >>
      >>Sue and Bill
      >>
      >>----- Original Message -----
      >>From: Bill & Sue Sisley
      >>To:
      >>Subject: Evans coolant
      >>
      >>
      >>I have recently changed to Evans Coolant from 50/50 Water/Antifreeze.
      >>My cyl head temp is now running approx 20 deg centigrade higher than
      >>    
      >>
      >before. Oil temp has not changed.
      >  
      >
      >>My cooling system is as per the book.
      >>Anyone else had any experience with this?
      >>
      >>XS Mono
      >>914
      >>Airmaster CS
      >>360 Hrs
      >>
      >>Sue and Bill
      >>
      >>
      >> 
      >>
      >>    
      >>
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: Naca / Paint | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
      
      Very interesting reading. Thanks !  I wish I knew enough to design and build a
      new lower cowling for my XS. What I did is better than stock, but people tell
      me the cowling could be better.
      
      Cliff Shaw
      1041 Euclid ave.
      Edmonds, WA 98020
      425 776 5555
      http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
      
      
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: SteveD
        Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 6:15 PM
        Subject: Europa-List: RE: Naca / Paint
      
      
        --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
      
        Googled up some reading on air flow from Cafe Foundation. Part II has some good
      stuff about inlets and extractors ...
      
        http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p7936#7936
      
        Steved
        ----------------
        Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fw: Evans coolant | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "N55XS" <topglock@cox.net>
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: Evans coolant
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: N55XS <topglock@cox.net>
      >
      > CHT:  250 - 275
      > Oil Temp: 190 - 220
      > Water Temp:  180 - 225
      > These are observed in take off, climb and cruise.  Haven't had any
      > indication of overheating in any flying or taxiing configuration.
      > Engine is a 912S with 89 hours on it.  Latest flight was a 700+ mile
      > cross country (each way) this weekend.  13 + hours, running both 93
      > octane MOGAS and 100LL.  Only problem experienced was removing the ice
      > from the wings, before leaving WV, this morning... ;)
      >
      > Jeff - N55XS
      > 89 hours...
      
      CHT: 250-275.  Although not strictly overheating, 275 is the Max CHT on a 
      914 - is it different on a 912S?
      
      regards,
      
      Mike
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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