---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/28/05: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:45 AM - Re: Re: Stand up and be counted () 2. 03:51 AM - Re: Re: Stand up and be counted (William Mills) 3. 05:57 AM - Ethanol 10% is OK with Rotax (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu) 4. 08:42 AM - Useful link (Paul Bunting) 5. 10:34 AM - Re: Useful link (Steve Crimm) 6. 11:48 AM - Re: Re: without predudice (Fred Fillinger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:34 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: Stand up and be counted --> Europa-List message posted by: We've been discussing this amongst oursleves for a while now (thanks to those in the US for their patients). I feel that its time to return to Mr Newby with an indication of the strength of feeling from those of us that use the forum, and although this forum does not represent all UK Europa owners, it will give him a good idea of the level of feeling about using Keith Wilsons pictures in a magazine which we pay for. To this end, could everyone who wishes to add their voice please send a brief E-mail to PFA_representation@hotmail.co.uk After a week or so, I'll forward the contents of this mailbox to Graham in one go. Obviously, if you have any friends who are members of the PFA or know other Europa owners who do not use the forum but would like to add their support, please ask them to write too - they pay for the magazine as well. Peter ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:43 AM PST US From: "William Mills" Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: Stand up and be counted --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" Hi Peter, As requested, I have sent a message to your proposed address to express my feelings. I consider it would also be beneficial if those members who wrote the firsthand accounts of KW's dishonest tactics, were to agree for them to be collected together and sent to Graham Newby and Brian Hope, so that they might also be enlightened. Best wishes, William Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: Stand up and be counted > --> Europa-List message posted by: > > We've been discussing this amongst oursleves for a while now (thanks to > those in the US for their patients). I feel that its time to return to Mr > Newby with an indication of the strength of feeling from those of us that > use the forum, and although this forum does not represent all UK Europa > owners, it will give him a good idea of the level of feeling about using > Keith Wilsons pictures in a magazine which we pay for. > > To this end, could everyone who wishes to add their voice please send a > brief E-mail to > > PFA_representation@hotmail.co.uk > > After a week or so, I'll forward the contents of this mailbox to Graham in > one go. Obviously, if you have any friends who are members of the PFA or > know other Europa owners who do not use the forum but would like to add > their support, please ask them to write too - they pay for the magazine as > well. > > Peter > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information > > > -- > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:39 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Ethanol 10% is OK with Rotax From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu 10/28/2005 08:56:08 AM, Serialize complete at 10/28/2005 08:56:08 AM --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Ron, This question has been repeatedly asked at the Rotax Seminars at Osh and SnF. The unwavering answer is that the engines have no problem with it. The concern is that other components of the fuel system may swell, or deteriorate with Ethanol. My plane uses ethanol safe hoses, brass and nylon fittings, etc. My plane has about 160 Hr with no problem. Lycomings and Continental have problems with gasohol because they still use !cork! gaskets and the binders in the gaskets dissolve in EtOH. Serves em right for not changing the engine design for 50 years. I don't know what Cessna and Piper use in their fuel system. Ira N224XS ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:42 AM PST US From: "Paul Bunting" Subject: Europa-List: Useful link --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Bunting" http://earth.google.com/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:40 AM PST US From: "Steve Crimm" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Useful link --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" Here is another useful link mostly for the US guys for free flight tracking http://flightaware.com/ Steve Crimm N42AH -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Bunting Subject: Europa-List: Useful link --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Bunting" --> http://earth.google.com/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:30 AM PST US From: "Fred Fillinger" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: without predudice --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" I find it a bit remarkable that there seems little concern by some over libel here. Under U.S. law at least, it is mailcious when you seek also to harm the person financially, so the truth of the charges may not be a defense. Where the internet is used, anyone in the world can be sued. Mr. Wilson could make good money by just suing, and settle for whatever the defendant thinks is less than the legal fees to be incurred. I can understand the anger, but these things can be discussed in private emails. Do not archive Fred F.