---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/07/05: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:16 AM - What's Being Said... (Matt Dralle) 2. 12:36 AM - Re: What's Being Said... (BEBERRY@aol.com) 3. 01:25 AM - Mono wheel trailer (Norbert P. Hoffmann) 4. 03:17 AM - Re: FW: First Flight (Steven Pitt) 5. 09:02 AM - Re: What's Being Said... (Matt Dralle) 6. 01:37 PM - Ferg, this really sucks (The Extractor) (SteveD) 7. 05:45 PM - Re: Rubber engine mounts (Paul McAllister) 8. 08:55 PM - 914 TCU Servo (Craig Ellison) 9. 11:04 PM - Re: 914 TCU Servo (Mike Parkin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:24 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: What's Being Said... --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, First, I'd like say *thank you* to everyone that has already made a Contribution during this year's List Fund Raiser! If you haven't made your List Contribution yet, won't you show your support for these valuable services today? Since there's no advertising or other forms of direct commercialism on these forums, its solely YOUR GENEROSITY that keeps them running!! Members have been including some very nice comments along with their Contributions this year. 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Such a great tool and service to the Aviation Community. -William C. ==================== What Listers Are Saying ==================== Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:22 AM PST US From: BEBERRY@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: What's Being Said... --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com I will make a contribution if yu tell me how to send the monies. Patrick ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:52 AM PST US From: "Norbert P. Hoffmann" Subject: Europa-List: Mono wheel trailer --> Europa-List message posted by: "Norbert P. Hoffmann" with tears in my eyes I have sold D-EUPA to a long term builder of a classic Europa - he developed an allergy, so he can not complete his own. Since he has already a trailer I have one left sitting at the airport. If somebody is interested please contact me direct. The price will be 100 Euro and you will have to fetch it here in Luebeck, Germany. Regards Norbert, former D-EUPA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:53 AM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: First Flight --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" Jim Will you please pass on my congratulations to Claude - I am delighted for him with the success of his first flight. Having visited him at Sun'n'Fun time with Andy Draper I was interested to see the quality of his workmanship, the dedication to the task and the 'novelty' of his engine fitment. It shows what can be done when you put your mind to it. Regards Steve Pitt #403 - into the final fitting of parts after painting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Thursby" Subject: Europa-List: FW: First Flight > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Thursby" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Thursby [mailto:jthursby@tampabay.rr.com] > To: 'europa-list@matronics.com' > Subject: First Flight > > I'm pleased to announce after too many years of building, Claude Tugwell's > (A039/N295LC) O-200 powered Europa has flown. Lee Omernik had done a > fifteen minute one in October but was cut short due to carb problems. Today > It flew for one-half hour and with the exception of a partially blocked > static system all worked well. It handles like all "classic winged" > Europa's, in a word beautifully. Claude has extended the span of each wing > by about eight inches and also added drooped tips. The roll rate is very > nice. Reminded me of G-ELSA/N512SA/N741JH handling, one of the best flying > Europa's As the static system was very slow to react I didn't explore the > low speed regime much but observed 110 knots on the GPS on a four way course > @ 2,300 RPM. This is with no speed fairings at all. Although the plane is > heavy it accelerates close to a 914 and better than a Jabiru 3300. Ground > roll was estimated at six to seven hundred feet which I'm sure can be > shortened. I'll post more as we get further into the test flight program. > Jim T. > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:03 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: Europa-List: What's Being Said... --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Hi Patrick, If you use your web browser and go to the following web site, it will explain everything you need to know to make a Contribution. Any one of three methods can be used including using your credit card, Paypal, or a personal check. The page is rather long, so be sure to scroll all the way to the bottom: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your contribution! Matt Dralle List Admin At 12:35 AM 11/7/2005 Monday, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com > > >I will make a contribution if yu tell me how to send the monies. > >Patrick Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:54 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Ferg, this really sucks (The Extractor) From: "SteveD" --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" [quote:e112390a75="Freg Kyle"] I dredged this from long past records (the attached URL is long gone), but intend to research the utility of it when airborne. Cheers, Ferg [/quote:e112390a75] Using the mysterious powers of the web I have reincarnated the long deceased web page. PDF file linked. Ok ok, nothing mysterious, I googled up the writer and asked nicely for a copy. Also see attached photos of the new and improved Big Sucker. Steved [quote:e112390a75="Steve Rahm"] Steven, Here is a pdf of that old page and I can still make and sell them for the same if I can find the mold.... The newer style is patterned after surface mount ducts of Gran Prix bikes and is REALLY efficient. They are bigger and more complex to make but I can sell them at 70.00 if anyone is interested. One had to be cut in half to work lightly enough on the two place Vision and the four place guys are putting flapper valves on them to potentially slow airflow. I hope you have a great time with your project. Steve http://www.visionaircraft.com/ Vision Some will have it. Some will not. It's that simple [/quote:e112390a75] ---------------- This Email contains Photos or Attachments located at the following link: http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=8236#8236 ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:36 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rubber engine mounts --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi You need to make new spacers 1.7" long, the tube will need to clear 3/8" (mine was .336 ID) bolt and the OD is .500. I think I got the tube from AC Spruce Paul ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:47 PM PST US From: "Craig Ellison" Subject: Europa-List: 914 TCU Servo --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" 914 Builders, I've been going through the final install and have a question about the wastgate servo. When I switch on the TCU and it cycles the wastegate the panel lights(red & yellow) both come on the go off as expected but the servo does this huming sound like it is trying to do something. Is this normal? thanks for all advice in advance, craig ellison A205 almost ready to warm up the engine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Borger" Subject: Europa-List: 914 Electric Fuel Pump Polarity? > --> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger > > 914 Builders: > > I began to wire up the fuel pumps today and found out that the screw > terminals are two different sizes. This leads me to believe that > polarity is important but I can't find anything in the manuals about > electrical polarity of the pump terminals and there were no > instructions with the pumps. I'd sure appreciate it if someone could > tell me if the big terminal screw is positive or negative (earth/ > ground). > > Thanks... > > Good building and great flying, > Bob Borger > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S > http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL > (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch > system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, > Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar > in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done, baggage bay in. Completing the > firewall-aft fuel system and fitting the instrument panel. Working in > - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel > System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster > arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. Preparing ROTAX > 914 for installation. > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208 > Home: 940-497-2123 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:46 PM PST US From: "Mike Parkin" Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 TCU Servo --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" Craig, I think it is normal, my servo has always made a similar sound. I think it is just 'hunting' around its commanded position. regards, MP When I switch on the TCU and it cycles the wastegate the > panel lights(red & yellow) both come on the go off as expected but the > servo > does this huming sound like it is trying to do something. Is this normal? Do not archive.