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1. 12:11 AM - Highlight Two (Matt Dralle)
2. 02:22 AM - DOTH Thur 17th Leicester (Paddy Clarke)
3. 02:44 AM - Re: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester (Alan Burrows)
4. 04:55 AM - Re: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester (Jos Okhuijsen)
5. 06:41 AM - Engine hoist (Fergus Kyle)
6. 06:41 AM - Re: ELT Mounting (Fred Fillinger)
7. 08:47 AM - Re: Engine hoist (EuropaForum)
8. 09:08 AM - Re: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester (R.C.Harrison)
9. 09:11 AM - Build Partner Sought (Goff Moore)
10. 09:17 AM - Re: Engine hoist (josok)
11. 09:47 AM - Re: Engine hoist (Cliff Shaw)
12. 10:31 AM - Re: Engine hoist (Fred Fillinger)
13. 11:15 AM - Club Christmas dinner (db)
14. 11:52 AM - Speaking of Hoisting (Steve Crimm)
15. 12:10 PM - door push rods (Raimo Toivio)
16. 12:14 PM - Re: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester (Duncan McFadyean)
17. 03:52 PM - 914 Spark Plugs (Erich Trombley)
18. 04:22 PM - Re: Speaking of Hoisting (Paul McAllister)
19. 04:30 PM - Re: Engine hoist (SPurpura@aol.com)
20. 04:34 PM - Re: Speaking of Hoisting (SPurpura@aol.com)
21. 07:49 PM - Engine Hoist (Fergus Kyle)
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| Subject: | DOTH Thur 17th Leicester |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
It seems to have gone a bit quiet on the DOTH front. How about
Leicester on Thursday 17th, 1200hr ?. Voucher in Pilot.
Cheers
Paddy Clarke
Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
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| Subject: | DOTH Thur 17th Leicester |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Sorry Paddy, I cant make it, but I agree it has gone quiet
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy
Clarke
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke
--> <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
It seems to have gone a bit quiet on the DOTH front. How about
Leicester on Thursday 17th, 1200hr ?. Voucher in Pilot.
Cheers
Paddy Clarke
Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Paddy,
My plane is still far from flying, but since i am at a drivable distance,
i would like to join a drop of the hat by car :-)
Would that be possible?
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
workshopcam http://www.okhuijsen.org/plane
kit#600, mono xs, top on, gear in, tail wheel in, wings set, flapdrive in,
tail closed, tailwheel in, tail top done, sanding and filling and painting
all blue stuff at Nevs fretshop2
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Cheers,
I know I should not engage mouth until brain is in gear, but cannot
find any reference to hoisting the 914 in past correspondence - except one
old one regarding the two bolt holes immediately aft of the prop shaft
(where the suction pump goes?). That referred to a pair of 9mm bolts but no
thread specs, and have to order to get same.
(a) any suggestions other than these boltholes?, and
(b) any info on thread specs?
Happy landings
Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Mounting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: jimpuglise@comcast.net
>
> I've been reading the discussion about ELT antennas with
> a great deal of interest.
> I really think it is preferable to use a whip antenna
> mounted right on the connector on the ELT. The reason
> that say this is that if it is a crash that is serious
enough
> to require that you be found, there is a very high
> probability that the cable will be compromised....
My ELT doesn't provide for that arrangement, nor perhaps do
most. A flexible whip attached, a la EBC-102A would be good.
Trouble is, it's "G-switch" looks cheap and unreliable. But
I otherwise agree.
> I have a lot of time flying a DF equipped aircraft finding
> them and have seen more than my share of crash sites.
At last someone who may know. I'm curious about documented
actual saves re downed aircraft, not just locating mortal
remains. Best info I found suggests lately rare or less,
and the incident would be on cable news. These days we can
take a cell phone, handheld GPS, and handheld VHF comm.
Latter two further backup to panel stuff, and you talk to
aircraft overhead if hopefully able. Try the cell phone to
call for help.
A couple years ago, climbers got caught in a snowy crevasse
in the mountains, and a cell phone still worked! Also call
CNN, talk live with Kyra Phillips. Breaking news! Downed
pilot hears helicopters.... :-)
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine hoist |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaForum <Post2Forum@comcast.net>
Part three of 912 installations is at:
http://www.europaowners.org/dlman.php?func=file_info&file_id=191
Among other things how to hoist... With pictures..
Chat Later,
Steved
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| Subject: | DOTH Thur 17th Leicester |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Sorry Paddy ! Had it been today or even Friday I'd have joined you but
Thursdays are Grand daughter days for 3 years whilst her mother takes
her accountancy chartership !
In other words I seem to be succumbed to other folks problems !
Regards
Bob H
Robt.C.Harrison
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy
Clarke
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke
<paddyclarke@lineone.net>
It seems to have gone a bit quiet on the DOTH front. How about
Leicester on Thursday 17th, 1200hr ?. Voucher in Pilot.
Cheers
Paddy Clarke
Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
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| Subject: | Build Partner Sought |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Goff Moore" <goffmoore@aviators.net>
Prospective Europa builder seeks build partner in the Oxford area (UK).
Full details on www.goffmoore.aviators.net
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| Subject: | RE: Engine hoist |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Funny, i was just photographing today how the professionals do it,
see http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=trip-to-the-2nd-fret-shop&id=IMG_0823&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
----------------
Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
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| Subject: | Re: Engine hoist |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Ferg
I worried about that same thin. I found in the Rotax reference pages the suggestion
to use a strap under the intake manifolds. I have been doing it that way
and have had no concerns of safety or doing damage .
There is a picture of my hoisting my 912S on page 8 picture 386 at the Europaowners
page listed in my signature.
Hope this helps.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
----- Original Message -----
From: Fergus Kyle
To: EUROPALIST
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:40 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Engine hoist
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Cheers,
I know I should not engage mouth until brain is in gear, but cannot
find any reference to hoisting the 914 in past correspondence - except one
old one regarding the two bolt holes immediately aft of the prop shaft
(where the suction pump goes?). That referred to a pair of 9mm bolts but no
thread specs, and have to order to get same.
(a) any suggestions other than these boltholes?, and
(b) any info on thread specs?
Happy landings
Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: Engine hoist |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> Cheers,
> ....
> (a) any suggestions other than these boltholes?, and
> (b) any info on thread specs?
> Happy landings
> Ferg
>
I just looped heavy propylene rope, couple loops, through
the intake manifolds between each pair of cylinders. Close
to balance; it needed only a small "picker-upper" rope also
up to the hoist to level her. Very little tension on each
manifold bolt, if ya do da math.
Reg,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Club Christmas dinner |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "db" <davebuzz@aol.com>
Apologies for the delay of the Europa Flyer - Rowland has mentioned this
already.
If any of you are able to attend, the details for the Club Christmas
dinner are available at: www.europaclub.org.uk Date is Saturday 3rd
December 2005 at the Holiday Inn near Nottingham, UK
Thanks,
dave
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| Subject: | Speaking of Hoisting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Speaking of hoisting...
I need to swing the gear for my conditional inspection, do you all lift the
airframe by the engine mount or some other place?
Thanks
Steve Crimm
N42AH
A058
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Fillinger
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Engine hoist
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred Fillinger" <n3eu@comcast.net>
> Cheers,
> ....
> (a) any suggestions other than these boltholes?, and
> (b) any info on thread specs?
> Happy landings
> Ferg
>
I just looped heavy propylene rope, couple loops, through the intake
manifolds between each pair of cylinders. Close to balance; it needed only a
small "picker-upper" rope also up to the hoist to level her. Very little
tension on each manifold bolt, if ya do da math.
Reg,
Fred F.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Dear Builders!
The distance between shooting boltss
points (when open) should be 947 mm.
I have followed strictly revised manual
and my push rods are perfect. For example
shorter one from roll pin centre to roll pin
centre is just 137 (earlier 133) mm long. I made
them using suplied round bar and it was quite
easy but "challenging" and labourrich.
After all the distance is 942 mm (both of doors).
Have you any idea where is missing 5 mm?
Longer one is looking good but shorter one should
be 142 mm long to be good and safe enough
(notice: just in my case and in my doors only!).
Shooting bolt of the shorter push rod does not
come out enough.
I will do new ones (will take only one night)
but those of you who have not been there,
be aware!
Regards, Raimo (not yet grey hair at all)
==========
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT #417, 1181 hrs so far
OH-CVK
OH-BLL
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Because William is away?
Duncan McF.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
> <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
> Sorry Paddy, I cant make it, but I agree it has gone quiet
>
> Alan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy
> Clarke
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Thur 17th Leicester
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke
> --> <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
>
> It seems to have gone a bit quiet on the DOTH front. How about
> Leicester on Thursday 17th, 1200hr ?. Voucher in Pilot.
> Cheers
> Paddy Clarke
>
> Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
Having had some difficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug X27-EPR-U9 for use
in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the following vendor.
www.sparkplugs.com
The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in quantity.
Thirty (30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or more are priced at
$1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive at $2.26 each.
I know a few folks have suggested using the NGK equivalent DPR9EA-9, however, per
John Hurst cited in the archives, Rotax stated that the NGK does not have the
exact heat range they were looking for.
Regards,
Erich Trombley N28ET
Classic Mono 914 NSI CAP140
Having had somedifficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug X27-EPR-U9 for use
in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the following vendor.
www.sparkplugs.com
The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in quantity. Thirty
(30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or more are priced at
$1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive at $2.26 each.
I know a few folks have suggested using the NGK equivalent DPR9EA-9, however, per
John Hurst cited in the archives, Rotax stated that the NGK does not have the
exact heat range they were looking for.
Regards,
Erich Trombley N28ET
Classic Mono 914 NSI CAP140
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Hoisting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Andy recommended the engine mount, this worked fine for me. - Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
> I need to swing the gear for my conditional inspection, do you all lift
> the
> airframe by the engine mount or some other place?
>
> Steve Crimm
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| Subject: | Re: Engine hoist |
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
I USE THOSE BOLT HOLES,AND U CAN GET THE METRIC CAP SCREWS WITH A BLACK OXIDE
FINISH AT ANY ACE HARDWARE, THEY ARE PRETTY COMMON.
SAM N77EU
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Hoisting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
YOU SHOULD LIFT FROM THE LANDING GEAR FRAME RITE BEHIND THE ENGINE MOUNT WITH
A RATED NYLON LIFTING STRAP.
SAM N77EU
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Steve, Jos, Cliff, Fred and Sam:
....and all the others -
Thanks for the info! All in a day's magic via this net. I ran out and got a
2ton hoist kit for $50 less than one week's rental at the lowest
rate........! How do they do it?
I will use either 1/2" nylon strapping or perhaps a bracket from
Lockwood if it applies.
Again, many thanks,
Ferg
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