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1. 12:03 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (BEBERRY@aol.com)
2. 12:03 AM - Re: Engine Hoist (Kingsley Hurst)
3. 12:10 AM - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? (Matt Dralle)
4. 12:18 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (Kingsley Hurst)
5. 12:31 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (Gerry Holland)
6. 01:50 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (BEBERRY@aol.com)
7. 02:10 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (Richard Holder)
8. 02:53 AM - FW: 914 Spark Plugs (Alan Burrows)
9. 03:38 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (Kingsley Hurst)
10. 05:59 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (BEBERRY@aol.com)
11. 06:38 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter)
12. 09:27 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (Phil Tait)
13. 09:46 AM - Re: 914 Spark Plugs (Alan Burrows)
14. 09:58 AM - Re: First Flight of G-IRON (G-IANI)
15. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: First Flight of G-IRON (Steven Pitt)
16. 12:19 PM - Re: Build Partner Sought (Flying Farmer)
17. 12:31 PM - Re: door push rods (Raimo Toivio)
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
In a message dated 17/11/2005 01:03:57 GMT Standard Time,
erichdtrombley@juno.com writes:
Having had some difficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug X27-EPR-U9
for use in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the following vendor.
www.sparkplugs.com
The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in
quantity. Thirty (30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or more=20are
priced at $1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive at=20$2.26
each.
Just shows how we get rooked in U.K. These plugs are over =A310 from Rotax
and even from a motorcycle shop they are over =A32.50, i.e. more than double the
U.S. price. (and I know the chap in the shop and get a discount!).
Patrick
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> I will use either 1/2" nylon strapping or perhaps a bracket from
Lockwood if it applies.
Ferg,
Don't waste your money buying anything. Just get a small scrap of flat
steel about 1/4" thick. Drill two holes in it and weld a half link of a
chain to it to form an upside down "U". In 5 minutes you will have a
perfect fitting for lifting the engine at its balance point (in the case
of the 912 anyway!)
Cheers
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> These plugs are over =A310 from Rotax
and even from a motorcycle shop they are over =A32.50, i.e. more than
double the
U.S. price. (and I know the chap in the shop and get a discount!).
Good-day Patrick
I think you should rephrase that statement to "and I THOUGHT the chap in
the shop was giving me a discount"
Regards
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gholland@gemini-resourcing.com>
Kingsley!
> I think you should rephrase that statement to "and I THOUGHT the chap in
> the shop was giving me a discount"
Behave yourself!
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
In a message dated 17/11/2005 09:44:03 GMT Standard Time,
hurstkr@growzone.com.au writes:
These plugs are over A310 from Rotax
and even from a motorcycle shop they are over A32.50, i.e. more than
double the
U.S. price. (and I know the chap in the shop and get a discount!).
Don't know how this got translated but it should have read... =A310 and =20=A32.50!
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
BEBERRY@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 17/11/2005 09:44:03 GMT Standard
> Time, hurstkr@growzone.com.au writes:
>
> These plugs are over A310 from Rotax and even from a
> motorcycle shop they are over A32.50, i.e. more than
> double the U.S. price. (and I know the chap in the
> shop and get a discount!).
>
>
> Don't know how this got translated but it should have
> read... =A310 and =20=A32.50!
>
> Patrick
It went wrong again Patrick. This is an American site
which does recognise the pound sign so you must use GBP
instead of the pound symbol !
Just to confuse things Americans call # the pound sign,
which we Brits call "hash" or "sharp" in music. I only
worked that out recently, bit of a shock !
I assume you meant that the plugs were 10 GBP from Rotax
and 2.50 GBP from the bike shop !
Richard
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
I'm up for buying some of these, anyone want to share the cost with me
so we can get a bulk supply at the cheapest rate?
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BEBERRY@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 Spark Plugs
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
In a message dated 17/11/2005 01:03:57 GMT Standard Time,
erichdtrombley@juno.com writes:
Having had some difficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug
X27-EPR-U9 for use in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the
following vendor.
www.sparkplugs.com
The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in
quantity. Thirty (30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or
more=20are
priced at $1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive
at=20$2.26 each.
Just shows how we get rooked in U.K. These plugs are over =A310 from
Rotax and even from a motorcycle shop they are over =A32.50, i.e. more
than double the U.S. price. (and I know the chap in the shop and get a
discount!).
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> Don't know how this got translated but it should have read... =A310 and
> =20=A32.50!
Tell me again please Patrick, how should that have read ? Just joking mate
but the UK Pound sign gets converted like that every time. Something to do
with the list server I think.
Cheers
Kingsley
PS Hide this message from Holland . . . . he's lurking somewhere
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Don't know how this got translated but it should have read... A310 and
> 20A32.50!
Tell me again please Patrick, how should that have read ? Just joking mate
but the UK Pound sign gets converted like that every time. Something to do
with the list server I think.
I'll try again! 10 pounds sterling or 2.50 sterling. Is that better?. I
did not know that my pound signs were being converted into somethig silly by
aol. How is this for a pound sign....=A3?
Parick
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Spark Plugs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
Erich, Thanks for the spark plug connection.
Have you found a deal on Oil Filters?
Kevin
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Erich Trombley wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
>
>Having had some difficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug X27-EPR-U9 for
use in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the following vendor.
>www.sparkplugs.com
>The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in quantity.
Thirty (30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or more are priced
at $1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive at $2.26 each.
>I know a few folks have suggested using the NGK equivalent DPR9EA-9, however,
per John Hurst cited in the archives, Rotax stated that the NGK does not have
the exact heat range they were looking for.
>Regards,
>Erich Trombley N28ET
>Classic Mono 914 NSI CAP140
>
>
>Having had somedifficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug X27-EPR-U9 for use
in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the following vendor.
>
>
>www.sparkplugs.com
>
>
>The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in quantity.
Thirty (30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or more are priced at
$1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive at $2.26 each.
>
>
>I know a few folks have suggested using the NGK equivalent DPR9EA-9, however,
per John Hurst cited in the archives, Rotax stated that the NGK does not have
the exact heat range they were looking for.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Erich Trombley N28ET
>Classic Mono 914 NSI CAP140
>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Phil Tait" <phil@archwise.co.uk>
Alan
I have 20 No of these brand new (2 No boxes of 10)
With the demise of G-JAPS they are no longer any use to me make me a offer
for the lot
Regards
Phil Tait
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows
Subject: FW: Europa-List: 914 Spark Plugs
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
I'm up for buying some of these, anyone want to share the cost with me
so we can get a bulk supply at the cheapest rate?
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BEBERRY@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 Spark Plugs
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
In a message dated 17/11/2005 01:03:57 GMT Standard Time,
erichdtrombley@juno.com writes:
Having had some difficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug
X27-EPR-U9 for use in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the
following vendor.
www.sparkplugs.com
The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in
quantity. Thirty (30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or
more=20are
priced at $1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive
at=20$2.26 each.
Just shows how we get rooked in U.K. These plugs are over =A310 from
Rotax and even from a motorcycle shop they are over =A32.50, i.e. more
than double the U.S. price. (and I know the chap in the shop and get a
discount!).
Patrick
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Phil
Yes I will buy them from you have you got a phone number I can contact
you on, as we need to speak about the other stuff you have.
Kind Regards
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil Tait
Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 Spark Plugs
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Phil Tait" <phil@archwise.co.uk>
Alan
I have 20 No of these brand new (2 No boxes of 10)
With the demise of G-JAPS they are no longer any use to me make me a
offer for the lot
Regards
Phil Tait
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Subject: FW: Europa-List: 914 Spark Plugs
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
I'm up for buying some of these, anyone want to share the cost with me
so we can get a bulk supply at the cheapest rate?
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BEBERRY@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 Spark Plugs
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
In a message dated 17/11/2005 01:03:57 GMT Standard Time,
erichdtrombley@juno.com writes:
Having had some difficulty finding the Nippon Denso spark plug
X27-EPR-U9 for use in the Rotax 914 I thought I would pass along the
following vendor.
www.sparkplugs.com
The price is very reasonable (O.K. downright cheap) if purchased in
quantity. Thirty (30) or more are priced at $1.60 each. Fifty (50) or
more=20are
priced at $1.44 each. Less than thirty (30) are a little more expensive
at=20$2.26 each.
Just shows how we get rooked in U.K. These plugs are over =A310 from
Rotax and even from a motorcycle shop they are over =A32.50, i.e. more
than double the U.S. price. (and I know the chap in the shop and get a
discount!).
Patrick
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| Subject: | RE: First Flight of G-IRON |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
On behalf of Terry Clark who does not monitor this forum.
Europa G-IRON, a hightop trigear, 914, Airmaster 332 made her maiden flight
at 15.03 on Monday 14th November at Blackbushe Airport (EGLK Camberley
Surrey). P. Jeffer is the test pilot.
Despite checking and rechecking everything the nose wheel spring had lost
some of its tension. Small problem with a disconnected wire in radio (We
had had the head panel off on Sunday to check door adjustment). Three
flights on Monday total time 1 hour. Tuesday prop balance before more
flights. This shows prop has a wobble at 3000 rpm not preventing flight but
must be fixed for sign her off. Two more flights (Total 50mins).
Final decoration and upholstery still to be done. She has come out rather
heavy at 950lb so some weight reduction is also needed.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Flying
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: First Flight of G-IRON |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
Ian
Did Terry smile when he saw G-IRON take to the skies?
Give him my kind regards and congratulations.
What is the cause of the weight problem? The registration perhaps!
Regards
Steve Pitt
----- Original Message -----
From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Europa-List: RE: First Flight of G-IRON
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
>
>
> On behalf of Terry Clark who does not monitor this forum.
>
>
> Europa G-IRON, a hightop trigear, 914, Airmaster 332 made her maiden
flight
> at 15.03 on Monday 14th November at Blackbushe Airport (EGLK Camberley
> Surrey). P. Jeffer is the test pilot.
>
> Despite checking and rechecking everything the nose wheel spring had lost
> some of its tension. Small problem with a disconnected wire in radio (We
> had had the head panel off on Sunday to check door adjustment). Three
> flights on Monday total time 1 hour. Tuesday prop balance before more
> flights. This shows prop has a wobble at 3000 rpm not preventing flight
but
> must be fixed for sign her off. Two more flights (Total 50mins).
>
> Final decoration and upholstery still to be done. She has come out rather
> heavy at 950lb so some weight reduction is also needed.
>
>
> Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
> Flying
> e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Build Partner Sought |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Flying Farmer" <funnyphone@btinternet.com>
Hi Goff,
I'm getting ready to start my own project this coming year, and also would
be interested in a build and operating partner, but here is the first problem,
as the distance is not too good as I'm up here in west Yorkshire ( Halifax )
If you or I was a lot closer we could consider the project together.
If there is someone El's in the west Yorkshire area interested in joining me in
a joint project I would love to here from them.
I can be contacted through my website http://www.shop4it.uk.com/g-irpw
Thanks
----------------
Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
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| Subject: | Re: door push rods |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
I made today two new door
push rods (fore) with effective
lenght 142 (total 156) mm.
They operate nice, feel safe
and the distance between
boltss points is just 947 mm.
Aft push rods are like in manual.
Was I only one w door push rod problems?
Raimo
====
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT #417, 1186 hrs so far
OH-CVK, 500 hrs airborne w her
OH-BLL, still silent
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Subject: door push rods
Dear Builders!
The distance between shooting boltss
points (when open) should be 947 mm.
I have followed strictly revised manual
and my push rods are perfect. For example
shorter one from roll pin centre to roll pin
centre is just 137 (earlier 133) mm long. I made
them using suplied round bar and it was quite
easy but "challenging" and labourrich.
After all the distance is 942 mm (both of doors).
Have you any idea where is missing 5 mm?
Longer one is looking good but shorter one should
be 142 mm long to be good and safe enough
(notice: just in my case and in my doors only!).
Shooting bolt of the shorter push rod does not
come out enough.
I will do new ones (will take only one night)
but those of you who have not been there,
be aware!
Regards, Raimo (not yet grey hair at all)
==========
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT #417, 1181 hrs so far
OH-CVK
OH-BLL
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
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