Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 11/20/05


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:13 AM - Re: 914 throttle stops (Mike Parkin)
     2. 12:57 AM - carb balancing  (BEBERRY@aol.com)
     3. 01:21 AM - Re: Re: interior carpet (Duncan McFadyean)
     4. 05:37 AM - Re: 914 throttle stops  (Jim Butcher)
     5. 05:40 AM - Re: Firewall Integrity (Jim Butcher)
     6. 06:35 AM - Re: radios (Bill and Sue)
     7. 06:35 AM - Re: interior carpet (Bill and Sue)
     8. 06:42 AM - Re: 914 throttle stops (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter)
     9. 07:19 AM - Re: Re: radios (ivor.phillips)
    10. 08:48 AM - Re: Re: 914 throttle stops (Craig Ellison)
    11. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: radios (Duncan McFadyean)
    12. 09:56 AM - DOTH Tuesday/Wed? (Bryan Allsop)
    13. 10:14 AM - Re: 914 throttle stops (Mike Parkin)
    14. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: radios (Paul Stewart)
    15. 01:51 PM - Carb Heat and Coolant (Peter Rees)
    16. 02:14 PM - Re: Carb Heat and Coolant (NevEyre@aol.com)
    17. 02:32 PM - Re: interior carpet (steve v.)
    18. 02:33 PM - Re: Carb Heat and Coolant (Sven den Boer)
    19. 02:46 PM - Re: Carb Heat and Coolant (ivor.phillips)
    20. 03:15 PM - Re: Carb Heat and Coolant (Richard Holder)
    21. 04:09 PM - Re: off-topic: Re: Display of the Pound Symbol (Rowland Carson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:13:55 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: 914 throttle stops
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> Craig, You are in the wrong part of the TLR 43 programme. You need to select 'monitor', where the throttle position is indicated - 0% to 115%. Set up your throttle stops Max, Max Continuous and Idle using this position indicator. regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> Subject: Europa-List: 914 throttle stops > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" > <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> > > All 914 builders and flyers, > > I attempted to do throttle calibration yesterday and also set the stops > for > max power(100%) and take-off(115%). The Europa install manual for 914 > says > there are detailed instructions in the Rotax install manual. I couldn;t > find any but went ahead anyway. The program page asked for idle and max > throttle settings and that was it and said the calibration was complete. > My > question is how do you set the max contunuous thrattle setting? And is it > done with the computer or with RPM and engine running? > > BTY I did start the engine for the first time. She caught on the first > blade and ran very smooth at 1800rpm and above. Carb bal. is next. > > Thanks for any and all input. > > craig ellison > A205 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <NevEyre@aol.com> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Close Out Flanges > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com >> >> Hi Jim and Heather, >> Look carefully at the foam cores, they should have been cut, for the >> closeout pieces, they may have ''fused'' themselves back on. >> Failing that, check with Andy for the length of the cores before you trim >> any more off. >> Cheers, >> Nev. >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 12:57:20 AM PST US
    From: BEBERRY@aol.com
    Subject: carb balancing
    --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com I have a carb balancing kit (gauges and all) if anyone wishes to borrow - but have to arrange to collect and return to Somerset. Patrick


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    Time: 01:21:15 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: RE: interior carpet
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> K+W = zero, if I understand correctly the background to recent postings about aerial photography? Duncan McF. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net> Subject: Europa-List: RE: interior carpet > --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net> > > i would like to thank all who have replied, it looks like im going with > the "DIY" carpet . > > now then , off to complete the other 70% having completed 130% ? > (K+W=200%) > > thanks, steve #573 > ---------------- > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > > >


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    Time: 05:37:17 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
    Subject: Re: 914 throttle stops
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> Craig, What you have done is the calibration of the throttle. You need to set physical stops for idle and full throttle (115%) and a detent at 100 %. Refer to page 57-61 of the Rotax Install manual and pages 208 - 209 in the Maint manual (the Install manual describes an earlier version of the software). You do all this with the engine not running, just the electrics on so the TCU is operational. Make your physical stops (we made a throttle bezel similar to the Europa bezel for the gear lever and then made aluminum pieces that went under the bezel for both stops and also the detent). Then run the software and adjust the stops - the percentage is shown as "Load" in the software. Also be sure your wastegate cycles. At power on the wastegate should cycle from full closed to open and back to full closed. Closed is the cable fully extended or the wastegate arm displaced fully to the port side of the aircraft. When you get ready to do the carb balance, there are two good articles by Phil Lockwood on how to do this. Go to www.eaa.org and go to the Sport Pilot section. There are copies of the EAA Sport Pilot magazine there and you want the April and May 2004 issues. Phil's column is called "Power On" and the articles are .pdf. I think Steve D also has these in the Europa Owners website www.europaowners.org. Jim & Heather Butcher N241BW 12 hrs flown off


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    Time: 05:40:46 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
    Subject: Re: Firewall Integrity
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> Troy, The Rotax supplied CHT sensors are just resistive senders made by VDO. They can go in a Cannon plug without concern. You have to supply EGT sensors which are usually thermocouples. Other's have commented on them here on the forum. Jim Butcher N241BW 10 hrs flown


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    Time: 06:35:18 AM PST US
    From: "Bill and Sue" <billandsue@billbell.co.uk>
    Subject: RE: radios
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill and Sue" <billandsue@billbell.co.uk> Paul, I was interested in the XCOM which seemed to be ideal for our purposes and reportedly rather better than the Microair. I wrote to Michael Coates at XCOM who replied thus: ------ Hello Bill, the UK is a funny market where they don't accept US certification, we currently know of about 60 being used in the UK but they don't have approval..... We have no plans of certification in the UK because of the cost, sorry..... ----- I can imagine why people may be tempted to have a handheld as their 'official' radio and fit the XCOM for the intercom and to use a receiver only- not something I would contemplate of course! Anyone care to own up to being one of the 60 or to report their experiences in places where the use of this radio isn't deemed to be a Danger to All Aviation? regards Bill


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    Time: 06:35:47 AM PST US
    From: "Bill and Sue" <billandsue@billbell.co.uk>
    Subject: RE: interior carpet
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill and Sue" <billandsue@billbell.co.uk> Do you mind telling us how much the carpet cost you Steve? We're not ready for the trimming yet, but the kits do seem surprisingly expensive. Or am I missing something? Cheers Bill & Sue


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    Time: 06:42:00 AM PST US
    From: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: 914 throttle stops
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net> The instructions do not show what the "Throttle Stops" look like. What have other 914 users contructed? Kevin Mike Parkin wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> > >Craig, > >You are in the wrong part of the TLR 43 programme. You need to select >'monitor', where the throttle position is indicated - 0% to 115%. >Set up your throttle stops Max, Max Continuous and Idle using this position >indicator. > >regards, > >Mike > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Europa-List: 914 throttle stops > > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" >><craig.ellison2@verizon.net> >> >>All 914 builders and flyers, >> >>I attempted to do throttle calibration yesterday and also set the stops >>for >>max power(100%) and take-off(115%). The Europa install manual for 914 >>says >>there are detailed instructions in the Rotax install manual. I couldn;t >>find any but went ahead anyway. The program page asked for idle and max >>throttle settings and that was it and said the calibration was complete. >>My >>question is how do you set the max contunuous thrattle setting? And is it >>done with the computer or with RPM and engine running? >> >>BTY I did start the engine for the first time. She caught on the first >>blade and ran very smooth at 1800rpm and above. Carb bal. is next. >> >>Thanks for any and all input. >> >>craig ellison >>A205 >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <NevEyre@aol.com> >>To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Close Out Flanges >> >> >> >> >>>--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com >>> >>>Hi Jim and Heather, >>>Look carefully at the foam cores, they should have been cut, for the >>>closeout pieces, they may have ''fused'' themselves back on. >>>Failing that, check with Andy for the length of the cores before you trim >>>any more off. >>>Cheers, >>>Nev. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 07:19:02 AM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: radios
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> I have one and will use it as a back up Emergency Radio :-) Only Or until EASA allows its use Europe wide, But don't hold your breath!! Even though it is certified in Finland. I will also have a certified Garmin SL30 as my main radio, So for all intent and purposes the Xcom will only be used outside the UK, Or if a situation occurs were it needs to be used as a backup! > Anyone care to own up to being one of the 60 or to report their > experiences > in places where the use of this radio isn't deemed to be a Danger to All > Aviation? Ivor Phillips XS486


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    Time: 08:48:34 AM PST US
    From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: 914 throttle stops
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> Thanks Jim and Mike for the answers concerning setting the throttle stops. I had verified the wastegate cycle and mechanically balanced the carbs per Phil Lockwood but just could not find the correct page in tlr46 from which to work. Thanks again, craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> Subject: Europa-List: Re: 914 throttle stops > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> > > Craig, > > What you have done is the calibration of the throttle. You need to set > physical stops for idle and full throttle (115%) and a detent at 100 %. > Refer to page 57-61 of the Rotax Install manual and pages 208 - 209 in the > Maint manual (the Install manual describes an earlier version of the > software). You do all this with the engine not running, just the > electrics > on so the TCU is operational. Make your physical stops (we made a > throttle > bezel similar to the Europa bezel for the gear lever and then made > aluminum > pieces that went under the bezel for both stops and also the detent). > Then > run the software and adjust the stops - the percentage is shown as "Load" > in > the software. > > Also be sure your wastegate cycles. At power on the wastegate should > cycle > from full closed to open and back to full closed. Closed is the cable > fully > extended or the wastegate arm displaced fully to the port side of the > aircraft. > > When you get ready to do the carb balance, there are two good articles by > Phil Lockwood on how to do this. Go to www.eaa.org and go to the Sport > Pilot section. There are copies of the EAA Sport Pilot magazine there and > you want the April and May 2004 issues. Phil's column is called "Power > On" > and the articles are .pdf. I think Steve D also has these in the Europa > Owners website www.europaowners.org. > > Jim & Heather Butcher > N241BW 12 hrs flown off > > >


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    Time: 09:03:53 AM PST US
    From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: RE: radios
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> The CAA don't approve anything in the UK anymore, so far as I understand, and its List of Approved Equipment has disappeared. We are instead invited to contact them on 01293 573134 or e-mail aircraft.systems@srg.caa.co.uk . Things are now done through EASA. Who knows what they approve?! Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Sue" <billandsue@billbell.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: RE: radios > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill and Sue" > <billandsue@billbell.co.uk> > > Paul, > > I was interested in the XCOM which seemed to be ideal for our purposes and > reportedly rather better than the Microair. I wrote to Michael Coates at > XCOM who replied thus: > > ------ > > Hello Bill, the UK is a funny market where they don't accept US > certification, we currently know of about 60 being used in the UK but they > don't have approval..... We have no plans of certification in the UK > because of the cost, sorry..... > > ----- > > I can imagine why people may be tempted to have a handheld as their > 'official' radio and fit the XCOM for the intercom and to use a receiver > only- not something I would contemplate of course! > > Anyone care to own up to being one of the 60 or to report their > experiences > in places where the use of this radio isn't deemed to be a Danger to All > Aviation? > > > regards > > Bill > > >


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    Time: 09:56:56 AM PST US
    From: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
    Subject: DOTH Tuesday/Wed?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com> The listing has not been accepting my mail recently, and I have not been able to respond to DOTHs. Hopefully this has been rectified. Anyone up for a doth to Peterborough (Conington) EGSF, Tues or Wed? Cheers. Bryan Allsop


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    Time: 10:14:56 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: 914 throttle stops
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> I don't have any photos, but I will try and explain what I did. After making the glass fibre throttle housing, I fitted 2 anchor nuts in the front and rear faces of the throttle housing. Arrange the anchor nuts so that when the screws are fitted in the anchor nuts they act as adjustable stops for the fully forward (115%) and fully aft (idle (0%)). When the throttle assembly is installed the stops can be adjusted with a screwdriver through the throttle lever stop. The max cont (100%) position was facilitated by a gate in the top plate of the throttle assembly. The trick is, use the 100% gate as the set-up datum - set 100% by adjusting the outer of the throttle cable, then use your built in stops to set the 115% and 0% position. Hope you get the idea. regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin And Ann Klinefelter" <kevann@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 throttle stops > --> Europa-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter > <kevann@verizon.net> > > The instructions do not show what the "Throttle Stops" look like. What > have other 914 users contructed? > > Kevin > > Mike Parkin wrote: > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" >><mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> >> >>Craig, >> >>You are in the wrong part of the TLR 43 programme. You need to select >>'monitor', where the throttle position is indicated - 0% to 115%. >>Set up your throttle stops Max, Max Continuous and Idle using this >>position >>indicator. >> >>regards, >> >>Mike >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Craig Ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> >>To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >>Subject: Europa-List: 914 throttle stops >> >> >> >> >>>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Craig Ellison" >>><craig.ellison2@verizon.net> >>> >>>All 914 builders and flyers, >>> >>>I attempted to do throttle calibration yesterday and also set the stops >>>for >>>max power(100%) and take-off(115%). The Europa install manual for 914 >>>says >>>there are detailed instructions in the Rotax install manual. I couldn;t >>>find any but went ahead anyway. The program page asked for idle and max >>>throttle settings and that was it and said the calibration was complete. >>>My >>>question is how do you set the max contunuous thrattle setting? And is >>>it >>>done with the computer or with RPM and engine running? >>> >>>BTY I did start the engine for the first time. She caught on the first >>>blade and ran very smooth at 1800rpm and above. Carb bal. is next. >>> >>>Thanks for any and all input. >>> >>>craig ellison >>>A205 >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: <NevEyre@aol.com> >>>To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >>>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Close Out Flanges >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com >>>> >>>>Hi Jim and Heather, >>>>Look carefully at the foam cores, they should have been cut, for the >>>>closeout pieces, they may have ''fused'' themselves back on. >>>>Failing that, check with Andy for the length of the cores before you >>>>trim >>>>any more off. >>>>Cheers, >>>>Nev. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 10:15:46 AM PST US
    From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: radios
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Not that I understand the approval system, but I did enquire of the CAA about the XCOM as it had Finnish approval and what the role of EASA was. I have to say that the CAA were extremely efficient and responded to several enquires within the day. Unfortunately the reply was a categorical 'NO' for the XCOM in the UK Paul Duncan McFadyean wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> > >The CAA don't approve anything in the UK anymore, so far as I understand, >and its List of Approved Equipment has disappeared. We are instead invited >to contact them on 01293 573134 or e-mail aircraft.systems@srg.caa.co.uk . >Things are now done through EASA. Who knows what they approve?! > > >Duncan McF. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill and Sue" <billandsue@billbell.co.uk> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Europa-List: RE: radios > > > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill and Sue" >><billandsue@billbell.co.uk> >> >>Paul, >> >>I was interested in the XCOM which seemed to be ideal for our purposes and >>reportedly rather better than the Microair. I wrote to Michael Coates at >>XCOM who replied thus: >> >>------ >> >>Hello Bill, the UK is a funny market where they don't accept US >>certification, we currently know of about 60 being used in the UK but they >>don't have approval..... We have no plans of certification in the UK >>because of the cost, sorry..... >> >>----- >> >>I can imagine why people may be tempted to have a handheld as their >>'official' radio and fit the XCOM for the intercom and to use a receiver >>only- not something I would contemplate of course! >> >>Anyone care to own up to being one of the 60 or to report their >>experiences >>in places where the use of this radio isn't deemed to be a Danger to All >>Aviation? >> >> >>regards >> >>Bill >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 01:51:38 PM PST US
    From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Carb Heat and Coolant
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> Think we had a problem with carb ice this morning - apparently, the engine felt as if it wasn't running on all cylinders - could imply a carb partially blocked with ice? G-MFHI has the plenum air intake so no heating of the air on the way in, on a cold morning, still a little fog about - could well be pretty ideal conditions for carb ice. Can someone who has fitted the skydrive carb heat kit please tell me - is it a pretty straight forward job? I seem to recall that fitting the water 'jackets' over the carbs is a but tricky to say the least. Is this a job better entrusted to skydrive / Conrad? When we have the carb heat kit fitted, we will be changing the coolant. As we've had over temperature problems with the oil, I'm reluctant to put the Evans coolant in as I believe it will raise the temperatures even more. Can I just buy ordinary antifreeze from the motor factor and mix this 50 / 50 with water? If so, tap water or some form of purified water? Thanks in anticipation


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    Time: 02:14:33 PM PST US
    From: NevEyre@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Carb Heat and Coolant
    --> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com Hi Peter, Fitting the Skydrive carb heat system is pretty straight forward, as you say, pressing the carbs into the bodies can be a little nerve racking..... All you need, is either a press, or a large bench vice with soft jaws,[ or pieces of wood], and a good eye,or verniers, to ensure you are going in square, not beyond the skill of your average homebuilder. Recon on 3 to 4 hours to get it all together. The rubber ''skirt'' on the inside of the upper cowl might need modding, to get a good seal onto the plenum, the airbox will move aft about 3/4'', also if there are items on the firewall behind the airbox, check for interference. 50 / 50 Antifreeze / Tap water works just fine, use a quality brand of antifreeze, I always use the brand sold at Vauxhall Dealers. What happened re Wilson and the PFA ? How many letters got forwarded? Cheers, Nev.


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    Time: 02:32:15 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: interior carpet
    From: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
    0.64 REPLY_TO_EMPTY Reply-To: is empty --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net> hi Bill & Sue, i am still in the process of gathering information, but yes , i think the saving is substancial however, i do not think i will attempt the seating upholstrey myself as the thought of me "doing " the seat upholstry is making me uncomfortable on this chair im sitting on ! steve #573 yes i think your right Duncan McF ( K+W =0 ) but, (K+W+PFA=quids in!) ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 02:33:43 PM PST US
    From: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl>
    Subject: Re: Carb Heat and Coolant
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sven den Boer" <svendenboer@quicknet.nl> Peter, Teh skydrive carbheat is straightforward except for fitting the jackets, which should be done with care. Works fine for me..... Cheers Sven den Boer PH-SBR A168 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> Subject: Europa-List: Carb Heat and Coolant > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" > <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> > > Think we had a problem with carb ice this morning - apparently, the engine > felt as if it wasn't running on all cylinders - could imply a carb > partially > blocked with ice? G-MFHI has the plenum air intake so no heating of the > air > on the way in, on a cold morning, still a little fog about - could well be > pretty ideal conditions for carb ice. > > Can someone who has fitted the skydrive carb heat kit please tell me - is > it > a pretty straight forward job? I seem to recall that fitting the water > 'jackets' over the carbs is a but tricky to say the least. Is this a job > better entrusted to skydrive / Conrad? > > When we have the carb heat kit fitted, we will be changing the coolant. As > we've had over temperature problems with the oil, I'm reluctant to put the > Evans coolant in as I believe it will raise the temperatures even more. > Can > I just buy ordinary antifreeze from the motor factor and mix this 50 / 50 > with water? If so, tap water or some form of purified water? > > Thanks in anticipation > > >


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    Time: 02:46:04 PM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Carb Heat and Coolant
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> Hi peter Buy a good quality ethylene glycol antifreeze, Bluecol is one, But mix it with distilled/demineralised water, A good source for this is from a dehumidifier, > I just buy ordinary antifreeze from the motor factor and mix this 50 / 50 > with water? If so, tap water or some form of purified water? Ivor Phillips XS486


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    Time: 03:15:09 PM PST US
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Carb Heat and Coolant
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > Think we had a problem with carb ice this morning - > apparently, the engine felt as if it wasn't running on > all cylinders - could imply a carb partially blocked > with ice? G-MFHI has the plenum air intake so no > heating of the air on the way in, on a cold morning, > still a little fog about - could well be pretty ideal > conditions for carb ice. > > Can someone who has fitted the skydrive carb heat kit > please tell me - is it a pretty straight forward job? I > seem to recall that fitting the water 'jackets' over > the carbs is a but tricky to say the least. Is this a > job better entrusted to skydrive / Conrad? > > When we have the carb heat kit fitted, we will be > changing the coolant. As we've had over temperature > problems with the oil, I'm reluctant to put the Evans > coolant in as I believe it will raise the temperatures > even more. Can I just buy ordinary antifreeze from the > motor factor and mix this 50 / 50 with water? If so, > tap water or some form of purified water? > > Thanks in anticipation I have had a slight misfire at the top of the climb. I have the Skydrive kit. I tried to fit the jackets but i could see myself screwing up the carbs so i sent the whole lot back to Skydrive to fit. It was only 15 plus postage. I couldn't even start the press of the units onto the carbs - they seemed to be far too small ! The carb heaters only work if there is plenty of heat in the water system. So I blank off most of the air flow to the water radiator. This is 912S. No carb heaters are required on a 914. I use 50-50 water Anti-freeze with the 1.2 bar pressure cap - max placarded 120 C. I can't see the over temperature problem with the oil. There is more than 3 litres of oil compared with only a litre or so of water. My oil is always significantly cooler than the water, and indeed went through the hot summer of two years ago with half the oil radiator blanked off. I am trying to get the OK to put an oil thermostat in. Nigel Beale put one on a 912 engined plane he built but doesn't seem to have generated a formal mod for it. the engine has since done 1100 hours with the thermostat. Richard, who some DOTHers have now met !


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    Time: 04:09:02 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Re: off-topic: Re: Display of the Pound Symbol
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2005-11-19 19:57 -0500 BEBERRY@aol.com wrote: >If I send myself an email with pound sterling symbols inserted it all comes >out correct. Why is this? Patrick - because the packing agent and the unpacking agent (who both work for you in this case and so speak the same language, etc) both honour the same instructions. Mail lists, for reasons already explained, tend to take a more cautious approach and just accept & deliver packages that fit in a standard rail wagon (7-bit ASCII). This way they can avoid (in the worst case) re-assembling a primed bomb and having it go off, either in their own hands or on the property of the folk they're delivering to. If you want to know the full story, google for "MIME RFC" and you'll get as much as anyone can handle on the subject! I suggest we wrap this up now as I'm sure the rest of the list is tired of it - the bottom line is just to use UKP instead of trying to type a pound sign, if you don't know how the recipient's e-mail system will treat your message (ie, always, unless talking to yourself!). regards Rowland -- | Wilma & Rowland Carson <http://home.clara.net/rowil/> | <rowil@clara.net> ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...




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