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Thu 12/22/05


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 01:46 AM - skydrive carb heater mod (RoddyEuropa@aol.com)
     2. 02:39 AM - Re: skydrive carb heater mod ()
     3. 07:03 AM - Anatomy of an Arplast PV-50 blade (Gilles Thesee)
     4. 07:57 AM - Anyone monitoring 914 return flow? ()
     5. 08:09 AM - Re: Anatomy of an Arplast PV-50 blade (William Mills)
     6. 08:37 AM - Re: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow? (GLENN CROWDER)
     7. 12:37 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (rmrrick)
     8. 12:50 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     9. 01:05 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (BEBERRY@aol.com)
    10. 02:16 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (William Mills)
    11. 02:24 PM - Re: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow? (Paul McAllister)
    12. 02:49 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
    13. 03:15 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (William Mills)
    14. 05:43 PM - T'was the Night Before Christmas - Sports Planes Style (Jim Pellien)
    15. 06:28 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com)
    16. 10:03 PM - Re: The Days are Getting Longer (Cliff Shaw)
    17. 10:10 PM - Re: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow? (Mike Parkin)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:46:36 AM PST US
    From: RoddyEuropa@aol.com
    Subject: skydrive carb heater mod
    --> Europa-List message posted by: RoddyEuropa@aol.com I'm assuming that the skydrive carb heater kit is a PFA approved modification in the UK? Does anyone have the mod number? Thanks Roddy Kesterton #220


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    Time: 02:39:42 AM PST US
    From: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: skydrive carb heater mod
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <peter.rees05@ntlworld.com> It is indeed. Its in the 'Approved for all types' document on the PFA website (TL3.07) - the mod number is 10427. We fitted the mod to HI the other week - not too difficult though squashing the jackets onto the carbs is a little nerve wracking. Carbs move back by about 17mm so make sure your installation can accomodate this. I think that Skydrive have the kit on offer if you've not already bought it. Goes without saying that you'll need to re-balance the carbs when you've fitted the kit. We put a little bit of paint on the throttle and choke wires to help get them back into roughly the right place though it still ran like a dog until balanced. Peter > > From: RoddyEuropa@aol.com > Date: 2005/12/22 Thu AM 09:44:22 GMT > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: skydrive carb heater mod > > --> Europa-List message posted by: RoddyEuropa@aol.com > > I'm assuming that the skydrive carb heater kit is a PFA approved modification in the UK? Does anyone have the mod number? > > Thanks > > Roddy Kesterton > #220 > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information


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    Time: 07:03:58 AM PST US
    From: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
    Subject: Anatomy of an Arplast PV-50 blade
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> Hi all, Some time ago someone on the list was looking for information on Arplast PV-50 prop blades. I just uploaded a page on such a blade we cut into pieces last month. English only readers fear not, I included an (hopefully) English version ;-) FWIW Season's greetings, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France http://contrails.free.fr


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    Time: 07:57:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow?
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Curious, is anyone monitoring return flow on a 914? To monitor net fuel usage we need to subtract what is going back to tank from what is going into the fuel pressure regulator. Net fuel usage is a useful thing to be able to track. Seems to me if one were to have monitor and sensors already, if a selector switch were installed that switched between net and return, return could be checked once in a while which off the cuff sounds useful?? With clean filter/s and good strong pump and no restrictions one would know what is normal return flow. Seems to me a trend down could be followed to catch poor flow before you experienced vapor lock or low differential pressure. Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 08:09:43 AM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
    Subject: Re: Anatomy of an Arplast PV-50 blade
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com> Thanks very much, Gilles, it was me. I will contact you off line. Happy Christmas, William Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> Subject: Europa-List: Anatomy of an Arplast PV-50 blade > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee > <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> > > Hi all, > > Some time ago someone on the list was looking for information on Arplast > PV-50 prop blades. > I just uploaded a page on such a blade we cut into pieces last month. > English only readers fear not, I included an (hopefully) English version > ;-) > FWIW > > Season's greetings, > > Gilles Thesee > Grenoble, France > http://contrails.free.fr > > > -- > >


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    Time: 08:37:33 AM PST US
    From: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> I have dual electric Facet pumps in parallel with a Matronics Fuel Scan DX flow meter. There is a return flow line back to the tank so it requires a fuel transducer going both ways, one to add and the other to subtract. If I run both pumps with the engine off and the return transducer unplugged I get over 11 gph on the flow meter. Of course it shows 0 with both transducers connected. As long as I'm showing 11 gph or more, I would think that shows good health on the fuel system, along with the fuel pressure gauge. Glenn C >From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com >To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Europa-List: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow? >Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:56:42 -0000 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> > >Curious, is anyone monitoring return flow on a 914? > >To monitor net fuel usage we need to subtract what is going back to tank >from what is going into the fuel pressure regulator. > >Net fuel usage is a useful thing to be able to track. > >Seems to me if one were to have monitor and sensors already, if a selector >switch were installed that switched between net and return, return could >be checked once in a while which off the cuff sounds useful?? > >With clean filter/s and good strong pump and no restrictions one would >know what is normal return flow. Seems to me a trend down could be >followed to catch poor flow before you experienced vapor lock or low >differential pressure. > >Thx. >Ron Parigoris > >


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    Time: 12:37:32 PM PST US
    From: rmrrick <rmrrick@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: rmrrick <rmrrick@aol.com> william@wrmills.plus.com wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com> > >Dear All, > >Everyone must be busy shopping and hanging up the tinsel to earn their Pink Chitties for the New Year. > >For those in the Northern hemisphere (especially Jos in Lapland) the days are now getting longer, so it is all downhill from now on. > >I hope to see my local pilots at plenty of DOTHs and perhaps on some of the longer Continental Excursions in 2006. > >With best wishes to you all for a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New Year, with lots of flying or building as the case may be. > >William > > > > I echo that William. Merry Christmas to you and all Europa-Philes. How about a visit to one or other of the advertised New Years Day fly ins at either Popham or Compton Abbas? All the Best Rick G-RIKS > > >


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    Time: 12:50:34 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com OK William, Please define "Chitties" for those of us across the pond. Mike Duane Redding, CA XS Conventional Gear Do Not Archive


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    Time: 01:05:37 PM PST US
    From: BEBERRY@aol.com
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com Well I don't know abut the rest of you but in the Royal Navy a 'Pink Chitty' was an occasion when one could get down tpothe pub or indulge in some other 'one of the boys' occasions without incurring the wrath of ones beloved back at home! The alternative is to take her with you. Patrick


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    Time: 02:16:56 PM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com> Patrick has described a "Pink Chitty" quite well. Perhaps you have "Brownie Points" in the US? Anyway, if you do the washing up, bring early morning cups of tea to your wife and put up the odd shelf, you earn pink chitties or brownie points so that you can get to go off and play with your aeroplane or boat without too much hassle. What do you call that in America? Best wishes, William Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <DuaneFamly@aol.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Days are Getting Longer > --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com > > OK William, > > Please define "Chitties" for those of us across the pond. > > Mike Duane > Redding, CA > XS Conventional Gear > > Do Not Archive > > > -- > >


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    Time: 02:24:02 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Ron, I have an EIS with dual flow transducers. I seem to recall with one pump running the return flow was in the ~25 gph range and with two pumps it was greater than 30 gph. Paul


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    Time: 02:49:33 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Brownie points would about cover it. I prefer to make sure the wife is "very" involved with church matters. This gets her out of the house a lot and frees me up to sand my wings and fuselage. Now some real big brownie points will be needed in a few days when I write a check for my engine and FWF kit. I wonder if she'll just think of it as a late Christmas/early birthday present? Mike Duane Redding, California XS Conventional Gear


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    Time: 03:15:25 PM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com> A good idea, Rick. I have never been to Compton Abbas, so I would quite like to go there, but either venue would be fine. Let's do a wx check and then call a DOTH. Best wishes, William Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "rmrrick" <rmrrick@aol.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Days are Getting Longer > --> Europa-List message posted by: rmrrick <rmrrick@aol.com> > > william@wrmills.plus.com wrote: > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" >><william@wrmills.plus.com> >> >>Dear All, >> >>Everyone must be busy shopping and hanging up the tinsel to earn their >>Pink Chitties for the New Year. >> >>For those in the Northern hemisphere (especially Jos in Lapland) the days >>are now getting longer, so it is all downhill from now on. >> >>I hope to see my local pilots at plenty of DOTHs and perhaps on some of >>the longer Continental Excursions in 2006. >> >>With best wishes to you all for a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy and >>Prosperous New Year, with lots of flying or building as the case may be. >> >>William >> >> >> >> > I echo that William. Merry Christmas to you and all Europa-Philes. How > about a visit to one or other of the advertised New Years Day fly ins at > either Popham or Compton Abbas? > > All the Best > > Rick > > G-RIKS > >> >> >> > > > -- > >


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    Time: 05:43:27 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
    Subject: T'was the Night Before Christmas - Sports Planes Style
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com> 'Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the forum not an EMAIL was posted, not even a note. The stockings were hung by the laptop with care, in hopes that Tom P. soon would be there. The pilots were nestled all snug in their beds, while visions of SLSA's danced in their heads. The aircraft in their hangars, and I in my cap, had just settled our brains for a long winter's nap. When out on the tarmac there arose such a clatter, I sprang from my desk to see what was the matter. Away to the window I flew like a flash, tore open the shutter, and threw up the sash. The moon on the breast of the new-fallen snow gave the lustre of midday to the tie-downs below, when, what to my wondering eyes should appear, but a Light Sport Aircraft and eight big EAA 'rs. With a little old pilot, so lively and quick, I knew in a moment it must be Tom P. More rapid than eagles, his coursers they came, and he whistled and shouted and called them by name: "Now Rutan! Now Melville! Now, Fossett and Boyer! On, Lawrence! On, Heintz! On, Van G and Sawyer! To the end of the runway! To the tie-down area Now Shut Down ! Shut Down! Shut Down All Engines" As dry leaves that before the wild hurricane fly, when they meet with an obstacle, mount to the sky so up to the top of the FBO they flew, with the sleigh full of flight toys, and Tom P. too. And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof the prancing and pawing of each little hoof. As I drew in my head and was turning around, down the chimney Tom P. came with a bound. He was dressed all in fur, from his head to his foot, and his clothes were all tarnished with ashes and soot. A bundle of new FAA rules he had flung on his back, and he looked like a peddler just opening his pack. He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work, and filled all the stockings, with SP and LSA Rulings. And laying his finger aside of his nose, and giving a nod, up the chimney he rose. He sprang to his SLSA, completed his preflight, And away he flew like the down of a thistle. But I heard him exclaim, 'ere he flew out of sight, "Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night!" (An Adaptation of the Classic Poem, "T'was the Night Before Christmas") Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to All Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com www.MASPL.com 703-313-4818


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    Time: 06:28:56 PM PST US
    From: Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com Hello! Is Richard back from Lotus Land? Yes a Doth soon please, but do it next week when I will be back. I can look forward to that. Cheers Bryan


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    Time: 10:03:46 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: The Days are Getting Longer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> >without too much hassle. What do you call that in America?< ------- we call that a "kitchen pass" ---- Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE


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    Time: 10:10:20 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> Paul, I too have flowmeter on my 914. I too recall return flows in excess of 120 litres/hr. regards, Mike Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anyone monitoring 914 return flow? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Ron, > > I have an EIS with dual flow transducers. I seem to recall with one pump > running the return flow was in the ~25 gph range and with two pumps it was > greater than 30 gph. > > Paul > > >




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