---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/26/05: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:47 AM - Re: 914 fuel burn needed () 2. 10:13 AM - Re: Glider Ailerons (RK Hallett III) 3. 01:49 PM - Re: 914 fuel burn needed (Rowland Carson) 4. 01:53 PM - Re: 914 fuel burn needed (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 5. 02:20 PM - Re: 914 fuel burn needed (Steve Crimm) 6. 03:56 PM - Re WAG Re: 914 fuel burn needed (Robert Borger) 7. 06:21 PM - Re: 914 fuel burn needed () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:11 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 fuel burn needed From: --> Europa-List message posted by: Thx. Paul for fuel flow info. 2 more curious questions: 1) On a 912S with 1 fuel flow transducer, the flow reading more than doubles just before the motor quits when you run it out of fuel, is the same true on the 914? 2) "I have adjusted the needles in the carburetor to be leaner" I know Rotax keeps changing things, including the air-box. I know for certain on my motor (not yet run, few months old) is configured that carbs use different size main jets (~ less than #5 differance, think 2 or 3?), with 1 jet needle that has clip on the top notch (leanest) and the other 1 down from leanest. Did you follow Rotax paperwork to configure to their latest recommendation before you began to diddle? Main jet has most effect at full throttle, but has somewhat effect as less Jet needle and needle jet effects most just less than full, I forget exact, like 7/8 or 3/4 throttle. Taper of jet needle effects at lesser throttle most. I forget who posted about having higher EGTs (Near red-line) when reducing throttle. A lean mixture will cause that. The 914 above 108% power plumbs impact air from the airbox through solenoid to float bowls. At less than 108% the solenoid plumbs airbox pressure to the float bowls. It is absolute critical there are no leaks or restrictions in this plumbing that can drastic effect mixture. same goes for plumbing to fuel pressure regulator. If anyone else has 914/CS fuel flow, I would appreciate numbers. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:13:53 AM PST US From: RK Hallett III Subject: Re: Europa-List: Glider Ailerons --> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III Jim, I also am building the MG wings and will be watching closely the responces you get. In addition, I am quite confused by the wing trailing edge finishing, but will get to that in time. Currently working on the airframe having just mounted the engine. ;)!! Ralph RK Hallett III Reno, NV usa im Butcher wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" > >When preparing to install the GA 02 plates, do you cut away the entire top flange of the close out to allow the GA02 to slide in, or do you attempt to cut a slot at the in the flange of the close out and twist GA 02 into place? (I have issue 2 page 7-6 of the manual. Looks like one would cut the flange shown in Fig 13). > >BTW, this same page refers to removing a large part of the leading edge to provide clearance for the aileron push rod. No where in my manual is the further mention of the installation of the aileron push rod. Can someone refer me to a source of this information? I downloaded the MG manual from the Europa US website. No manual came with my MG kit. > >Thanks > >Jim Butcher > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:49:24 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 fuel burn needed --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson At 2005-12-25 02:47 +0000 wrote: >WAG Ron - maybe it's too much turkey but I can't figure it out, so please translate - what is WAG? regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 | 750 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:18 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 fuel burn needed --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com wild assed guess Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:59 PM PST US From: "Steve Crimm" Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 fuel burn needed --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" An extremely precise measurement commonly used in the "Colonies". Also used in association with the other exacting phrase "Close Enough for Government Work" Steve Do No Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 fuel burn needed --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com wild assed guess Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:22 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Europa-List: Re WAG Re: 914 fuel burn needed --> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger WAG is very closely related but not quite as accurate as the SWAG - Scientific Wild Ass Guess Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in with Singleton Mod, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done, baggage bay in. Completing the firewall-aft fuel system and fitting the instrument panel. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. Preparing ROTAX 914 for installation. Singleton firewall mod on order. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:03 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 fuel burn needed From: --> Europa-List message posted by: Hello Rowland WAG = Wild Ass Guess In my situation, also my build partners initals. Ron Parigoris On Mon, Dec 26, 2005, Rowland Carson said: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson > > At 2005-12-25 02:47 +0000 wrote: > >>WAG > > Ron - maybe it's too much turkey but I can't figure it out, so please > translate - what is WAG? > > regards > > Rowland > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > --