Europa-List Digest Archive

Sun 01/01/06


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:50 AM - Re: 914 drivers only please... (ivor.phillips)
     2. 02:22 PM - FW: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging. (R.C.Harrison)
     3. 02:35 PM - FW: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging. (R.C.Harrison)
     4. 04:23 PM - Re: FW: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging. (Vaughn & Gaye Teegarden)
     5. 07:04 PM - Re: Air Speed Indicator (Jeff B)
     6. 11:44 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:50:31 AM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: 914 drivers only please...
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> Happy new year Ferg I will admit that the correct bolts appear to be too short at first! But with a bit of persuasion they will fit, I too used the cut length of studding to compress the Lord mounts, and after a week or so they had settle down enough to allow for the correct bolts with spare nuts to be used, Its awkward but imminently doable, regards Ivor Phillips > By what devious means (and doubtless questionable magic > incantations) can one accomplish all this? Have some of you people cheated > and paid others - or have you some creative ways to compress these @#$%? > pieces while singlehandedly screwing on a castellated nut far enough to > pin it for keeps? - Yes I am using specified A5-40 (43/32") bolts and they > don't even begin to show through at the other end. The Lord mounts seem to > bloat the minute you take your eyes off them, and if you don't use all ten > fingers to hold the assemblies together, several various cups go > tingly-dingling under the mainwheel area for about twenty feet.


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    Time: 02:22:27 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: FW: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> Hi! all and more..... and I just sent out some reading material to my Special Distribution List thinking I'd covered most items of interest when this "dropped in "!(see item below) Sorry about any duplication of my mail list and implication of our American contingent on the Europa Forum but I can envisage this being also being used to "fix up" General Aviation so it is at least relevant to the Europa Forum. ? and presumably aircraft movements and air navigation charges along with council tax valuation spy in the sky technology ? How much more are we going to take lying down? Some chance of a happy new year on a shrinking inadequate pension? ! Bob H . Robt.C.Harrison -----Original Message----- From: Josephine white [mailto:josephine.white1@btinternet.com] Subject: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging. Sunday, January 01, 2006 Electronic tagging Booker does us proud today, with a special mention of the Blog in his column - which, needless to say, the techies on the Telegraph site haven't translated into a live link. The subject - as you might have guessed - is Galileo, Booker picking up on my earlier pieces (here and here) on the inability of the media to cover the issue in a grown-up fashion. Interestingly, the very point Booker makes is amply demonstrated by a new piece on the BBC website, which deal with one aspect of the system - road charging. Written by BBC News science reporter, Paul Rincon, under the headline "navigating future for road charges", this piece waxes lyrical about how the Galileo network "would allow a vehicle's exact movements to be tracked, presenting new possibilities for road-user charging and tolling." The precision and availability of the Galileo signal, we are told, would facilitate the application of charges according to the distance travelled by a vehicle, along with other parameters. Then chirps Rincon, "each motorist would, of course, need to carry a satellite-linked 'smart box' in their car," but what he does not mention anywhere is that this so-called "smart box" picks up the Galileo signal, translates it into positional data and then adds your details in order to beam it on to the road charging administrator. This means, of course, that you are effectively carrying a tracking bug in your car and every movement made in the vehicle will be recorded and retained. "Big brother" will be in the back seat or the boot (trunk, for our American friends) and, any time they wish, state authorities will be able to call up information. Why the Beeb should want to omit such an important detail can only be imagined, but you can bet that, if the government decided to insist on electronic tagging of everyone, there would be an outcry. Yet, this is exactly what the system is - it is an electronic tag by any other name, and you don't even have to commit a crime to get one. http://www.eureferendum.blogspot.com/


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    Time: 02:35:18 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: FW: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> Hi! all and more..... and I just sent out some reading material to my Special Distribution List thinking I'd covered most items of interest when this "dropped in "!(see item below) Sorry about any duplication of my mail list and implication of our American contingent on the Europa Forum but I can envisage this being also being used to "fix up" General Aviation so it is at least relevant to the Europa Forum. ? and presumably aircraft movements and air navigation charges along with council tax valuation spy in the sky technology ? How much more are we going to take lying down? Some chance of a happy new year on a shrinking inadequate pension? ! Bob H . Robt.C.Harrison -----Original Message----- From: Josephine white [mailto:josephine.white1@btinternet.com] Subject: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging. Sunday, January 01, 2006 Electronic tagging Booker does us proud today, with a special mention of the Blog in his column - which, needless to say, the techies on the Telegraph site haven't translated into a live link. The subject - as you might have guessed - is Galileo, Booker picking up on my earlier pieces (here and here) on the inability of the media to cover the issue in a grown-up fashion. Interestingly, the very point Booker makes is amply demonstrated by a new piece on the BBC website, which deal with one aspect of the system - road charging. Written by BBC News science reporter, Paul Rincon, under the headline "navigating future for road charges", this piece waxes lyrical about how the Galileo network "would allow a vehicle's exact movements to be tracked, presenting new possibilities for road-user charging and tolling." The precision and availability of the Galileo signal, we are told, would facilitate the application of charges according to the distance travelled by a vehicle, along with other parameters. Then chirps Rincon, "each motorist would, of course, need to carry a satellite-linked 'smart box' in their car," but what he does not mention anywhere is that this so-called "smart box" picks up the Galileo signal, translates it into positional data and then adds your details in order to beam it on to the road charging administrator. This means, of course, that you are effectively carrying a tracking bug in your car and every movement made in the vehicle will be recorded and retained. "Big brother" will be in the back seat or the boot (trunk, for our American friends) and, any time they wish, state authorities will be able to call up information. Why the Beeb should want to omit such an important detail can only be imagined, but you can bet that, if the government decided to insist on electronic tagging of everyone, there would be an outcry. Yet, this is exactly what the system is - it is an electronic tag by any other name, and you don't even have to commit a crime to get one. http://www.eureferendum.blogspot.com/ -- Virus scanned by Lumison.


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    Time: 04:23:18 PM PST US
    From: "Vaughn & Gaye Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net>
    Subject: Re: FW: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Vaughn & Gaye Teegarden" <N914VA@starband.net> While this is apparently an EU issue at this time, it certainly will not be long before we on the left side of the puddle will find it to be an issue for us. The liberal media and politicians can't wait for the day when they know where we are, what we are doing and when we are doing it, all in the name of the "public good". These are indeed two words in the English language to be feared. And after all, the aforementioned individuals do know what is "good for us" better than we. And the great benefit to us as a "world society" will be the ability to tax "fairly" all that we say and do. Once we stamp out the concept of the "individual" and "individual responsibility", the entire global society will finally become "Camelot". In the meantime, I for one will have my guard up and try to thwart these lofty aspirations at every turn. Yes, I, ME, MYSELF, THE ONE & ONLY. You can join, but you must be YOU, YOURSELF, YOUR ONE & ONLY. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: FW: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging. > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> > > Hi! all and more..... and I just sent out some reading material to my > Special Distribution List thinking I'd covered most items of interest > when this "dropped in "!(see item below) Sorry about any duplication of > my mail list and implication of our American contingent on the Europa > Forum but I can envisage this being also being used to "fix up" General > Aviation so it is at least relevant to the Europa Forum. > > ? and presumably aircraft movements and air navigation charges along > with council tax valuation spy in the sky technology ? > How much more are we going to take lying down? > Some chance of a happy new year on a shrinking inadequate pension? ! > Bob H . > > Robt.C.Harrison > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Josephine white [mailto:josephine.white1@btinternet.com] > To: Eurorealist > Subject: EU Referendum - Electronic tagging. > > Sunday, January 01, 2006 > > Electronic tagging > -- > Virus scanned by Lumison. > > >


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    Time: 07:04:56 PM PST US
    From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Air Speed Indicator
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net> Ah, the time draws near... ;) Jeff - N55XS 127+ hrs JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > A258 Towing to the airport this weekend, then waiting for the > inspection. do not archive


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    Time: 11:44:40 PM PST US
    From: dralle@matronics.com
    Subject: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
    DNA: do not archive --> Europa-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com Dear Lister, Please read over the Europa-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Europa-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Europa-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Europa-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Europa-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Europa-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Europa-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Europa-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.]




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