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1. 01:03 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (BEBERRY@AOL.COM)
2. 02:45 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (Richard Holder)
3. 04:23 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (Trevpond@aol.com)
4. 05:09 AM - RunningTemps and Right Roll (Tony Bale)
5. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (Michael Grass)
6. 07:30 AM - Re: RunningTemps and Right Roll (Paul McAllister)
7. 07:53 AM - Re: RunningTemps and Right Roll (Bryan Allsop)
8. 07:58 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (Robert Berube)
9. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (JEFF ROBERTS)
10. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (Paul McAllister)
11. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: fitting gascolator (BEBERRY@aol.com)
12. 10:05 AM - Re: RunningTemps and Right Roll (Cliff Shaw)
13. 10:38 AM - Re: fitting gascolator (gottfried)
14. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: Ampreg 20 (Rowland Carson)
15. 11:39 AM - Re: fitting gascolator (Gilles Thesee)
16. 12:42 PM - XS Monowheel hot cylinders? (Rmi Guerner)
17. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/27/05 ()
18. 04:13 PM - XS Kit For Sale (Ray Knapp)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Let us not get obsessive about to many negatives. Enjoy the thing
for the purpose for which it was designed. If you want to make it into
something else, fine, but please recognise the wonderful qualities of the
original design for it's purpose.
Well said Bryan...............Patrick (still seqarching for cause of
excessive vibration)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Bryan said
> The standard Europa is a great little ship straight
> from the box. I love it, and feel very safe in it.
> Sure, I am an accident waiting to happen, but isn't
> everyone?
I am surprised no-one has picked up on one item in Jeff's
mail.
He talks about $26K for a kit. I assume that is stages 1,
2 & 3 with no firewall forward. The price here in England
is 20,795 GBP and I expect VAT is to be added making it
24,434. (mono)
.
Even without VAT the 20,795 GBP becomes around $35k or
$36k. Yet kits sold in the US have been shipped across the
Atlantic.
So Jeff paid $10k less than a Brit would have even without
adding VAT which would be another $5k.
So were they being sold at a loss in the US (I wonder what
the current quoted US price is) or are we in England being
overcharged ?
I could rant more but it is time to go out :-)
Richard Holder
From: "JEFF ROBERTS" <jeff@rmmm.net>
> As usual with this list these things get carried way to
> far past what builders need. If anything, you all are
> simply hurting the new builder's attitude towards
> weather he's made a smart purchase in the Europa. If
> the filters are not the way to go then would all of you
> that have turned to a different direction take it up
> with Europa! Sounds like Europa should be selling kits
> with gascolators instead of filters. If a builder needs
> help he should ask the list and hopefully get the
> answers needed. More and more I see this forum being
> used to defend ones own, or a buddy's opinion or
> integrity. Remember there people out here needing
> encouragement and help and all this arguing does is
> discourage the poor sap that laid down $26K for a kit
> with cheep inline filters. If they don't serve there
> intent tell Europa to quit selling them! Jeff A258 Do
> not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Trevpond@aol.com
In a message dated 08/01/2006 10:46:34 GMT Standard Time,
rholder@avnet.co.uk writes:
I am surprised no-one has picked up on one item in Jeff's
mail.
He talks about $26K for a kit. I assume that is stages 1,
2 & 3 with no firewall forward. The price here in England
is 20,795 GBP and I expect VAT is to be added making it
24,434. (mono)
.
Even without VAT the 20,795 GBP becomes around $35k or
$36k. Yet kits sold in the US have been shipped across the
Atlantic.
So Jeff paid $10k less than a Brit would have even without
adding VAT which would be another $5k.
So were they being sold at a loss in the US (I wonder what
the current quoted US price is) or are we in England being
overcharged ?
I could rant more but it is time to go out :-)
Richard Holder
I suspect that the US prices were K.W'isms
Trev Pond
Kit 598 and very difinately still smiling
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| Subject: | RunningTemps and Right Roll |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
Greetings to one and all and a happy new year to you all,
Our bird G-CCUL (mono XS, 912S, with Warp Drive circa 22 deg) has now completed
something around 100 hours flying and we really only have a couple of gripes
and I would appreciate input from the forum.
Firstly we have a roll to the right, not bad and the test pilot was certainly not
at all concerned but we want hands off flying and are fitting various sized
trim tabs to the underside of the left aileron to trim out the effect (having
started on the left flap). We believe the flaps are perhaps not quite level but
without adjustment this is proving very difficult to measure. The trials and
errors continue, but I wonder what other pilots are experiencing - your thoughts?
Secondly, and to be honest this is the real annoying one, we are suffering with
very low oil and coolant temperatures. I brought this up some time ago but had
very few responses. As the temperature outside are lower now, we wondered if
anyone else has the same problems and what your solutions were.
We get the coolant and oil up to temperature - 100deg before take-off (we fitted
Evans coolant, this increased CHT by circa 10 degrees, and makes for a very
much more stable cooling system than water based, and pretty much impossible to
boil, having boiled the water coolant during a lengthy hold in the summer, I
can say that without fear of contradiction it is a very worth while modification)
climb out maintains temps but leveling out sees the oil temp drop with a
corresponding drop in oil pressure. If we decend or reduce power below 5000rpm
the temps fall away to 60 - 70 oil, 70 -80 coolant and are almost impossible
to recover in flight. We have tried blanking off the main inlet, and closing the
oil tank inlet. Unless you almost completely blank off the main inlet their
is little effect (this cures cruise but effects ground handling).
We are investigating a flap behind the radiators which will be operated from within
the cockpit, but obviously nothing is approved so this needs to be attempted
with care and thought. During the build we went to great lengths to optimize
the air inlets, ramp the air into the rads instead of around etc, and it would
appear we have done too good a job !!
we are fairly sure the guages are in the right ball park and even during the summer
we experienced over cooling, with the current temps its an absolute night
mare !! Any thoughts good people ?
As an aside to all you builders reading the comments about problems, don't despare,
our Europa is no doubt like everybody elses, a delight to fly, handles beautifully
and uses next to no fuel. Just take a pragmatic approach to all the
views expressed (IMHO ofcourse).
Best wishes
Tony.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
Richard,
With the greatest respect, I think you read to much into this loose
statement. The US builder currently bys from Europa 2004 in the UK direct.
This means same pricing. On the other hand, yes that was the price range
when I bought my ship but that was a few years back. I remember the UK
pricelist was much lower then compared to today. Interestingly here in the
US if you buy out of state often you do not pay VAT but they get you later
with the first registration. Anyway, here in the US it is custom to list the
prices before taxes. And as another factor also keep in mind that the US
dollar lost about 30% (loose statement! not exact!) in the last 2-3 years
against the UK Pound. With al this said, I feel now being overcharged here
in the US, but the exchange rate is not the fault of Europa 2004.
Michael Grass
A266 . Trigear, Detroit Michigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: fitting gascolator
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>
> Bryan said
>
>> The standard Europa is a great little ship straight
>> from the box. I love it, and feel very safe in it.
>> Sure, I am an accident waiting to happen, but isn't
>> everyone?
>
> I am surprised no-one has picked up on one item in Jeff's
> mail.
>
> He talks about $26K for a kit. I assume that is stages 1,
> 2 & 3 with no firewall forward. The price here in England
> is 20,795 GBP and I expect VAT is to be added making it
> 24,434. (mono)
> .
> Even without VAT the 20,795 GBP becomes around $35k or
> $36k. Yet kits sold in the US have been shipped across the
> Atlantic.
>
> So Jeff paid $10k less than a Brit would have even without
> adding VAT which would be another $5k.
>
> So were they being sold at a loss in the US (I wonder what
> the current quoted US price is) or are we in England being
> overcharged ?
>
> I could rant more but it is time to go out :-)
>
> Richard Holder
>
> From: "JEFF ROBERTS" <jeff@rmmm.net>
>> As usual with this list these things get carried way to
>> far past what builders need. If anything, you all are
>> simply hurting the new builder's attitude towards
>> weather he's made a smart purchase in the Europa. If
>> the filters are not the way to go then would all of you
>> that have turned to a different direction take it up
>> with Europa! Sounds like Europa should be selling kits
>> with gascolators instead of filters. If a builder needs
>> help he should ask the list and hopefully get the
>> answers needed. More and more I see this forum being
>> used to defend ones own, or a buddy's opinion or
>> integrity. Remember there people out here needing
>> encouragement and help and all this arguing does is
>> discourage the poor sap that laid down $26K for a kit
>> with cheep inline filters. If they don't serve there
>> intent tell Europa to quit selling them! Jeff A258 Do
>> not archive.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RunningTemps and Right Roll |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi Tony,
Does your aircraft drop the right wing in a stall with both flaps up and
flaps down. Is it the same amount ?
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: RunningTemps and Right Roll |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
Hi Tony.
My Europa is the same format as yours. You can set it up to be 'hands free'
in any particular power and weight configuration, but changing power
significantly, or carrying a heavy passenger will spoil the hands free
state. I have tried a clip-on elevator trim for use with a passenger, and it
works until I forget it. I installed an adjustable knicker elastic restraint
on the control stick, and that works, but I don't use it now ( I could never
get on with that stuff). I find that a bit of rudder pressure sorts the
thing out.
Regarding the cold running. Again my solution is a bit boring. Blank off
half of the over-generous radiator in the winter, and take it out when the
weather turns warmer. I use a bit of right angled coving from a kitchen work
surface.
Enjoy flying.
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
>
> Greetings to one and all and a happy new year to you all,
>
> Our bird G-CCUL (mono XS, 912S, with Warp Drive circa 22 deg) has now
> completed something around 100 hours flying and we really only have a
> couple of gripes and I would appreciate input from the forum.
>
> Firstly we have a roll to the right, not bad and the test pilot was
> certainly not at all concerned but we want hands off flying and are
> fitting various sized trim tabs to the underside of the left aileron to
> trim out the effect (having started on the left flap). We believe the
> flaps are perhaps not quite level but without adjustment this is proving
> very difficult to measure. The trials and errors continue, but I wonder
> what other pilots are experiencing - your thoughts?
>
> Secondly, and to be honest this is the real annoying one, we are suffering
> with very low oil and coolant temperatures. I brought this up some time
> ago but had very few responses. As the temperature outside are lower now,
> we wondered if anyone else has the same problems and what your solutions
> were.
>
> We get the coolant and oil up to temperature - 100deg before take-off (we
> fitted Evans coolant, this increased CHT by circa 10 degrees, and makes
> for a very much more stable cooling system than water based, and pretty
> much impossible to boil, having boiled the water coolant during a lengthy
> hold in the summer, I can say that without fear of contradiction it is a
> very worth while modification) climb out maintains temps but leveling out
> sees the oil temp drop with a corresponding drop in oil pressure. If we
> decend or reduce power below 5000rpm the temps fall away to 60 - 70 oil,
> 70 -80 coolant and are almost impossible to recover in flight. We have
> tried blanking off the main inlet, and closing the oil tank inlet. Unless
> you almost completely blank off the main inlet their is little effect
> (this cures cruise but effects ground handling).
>
> We are investigating a flap behind the radiators which will be operated
> from within the cockpit, but obviously nothing is approved so this needs
> to be attempted with care and thought. During the build we went to great
> lengths to optimize the air inlets, ramp the air into the rads instead of
> around etc, and it would appear we have done too good a job !!
>
> we are fairly sure the guages are in the right ball park and even during
> the summer we experienced over cooling, with the current temps its an
> absolute night mare !! Any thoughts good people ?
>
> As an aside to all you builders reading the comments about problems, don't
> despare, our Europa is no doubt like everybody elses, a delight to fly,
> handles beautifully and uses next to no fuel. Just take a pragmatic
> approach to all the views expressed (IMHO ofcourse).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Tony.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com>
The 26k price that Jeff indicated was the kit cost several years ago. The
current pricing is in the area of 38k.
Bob Berube
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Trevpond@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: fitting gascolator
--> Europa-List message posted by: Trevpond@aol.com
In a message dated 08/01/2006 10:46:34 GMT Standard Time,
rholder@avnet.co.uk writes:
I am surprised no-one has picked up on one item in Jeff's
mail.
He talks about $26K for a kit. I assume that is stages 1,
2 & 3 with no firewall forward. The price here in England
is 20,795 GBP and I expect VAT is to be added making it
24,434. (mono)
.
Even without VAT the 20,795 GBP becomes around $35k or
$36k. Yet kits sold in the US have been shipped across the
Atlantic.
So Jeff paid $10k less than a Brit would have even without
adding VAT which would be another $5k.
So were they being sold at a loss in the US (I wonder what
the current quoted US price is) or are we in England being
overcharged ?
I could rant more but it is time to go out :-)
Richard Holder
I suspect that the US prices were K.W'isms
Trev Pond
Kit 598 and very difinately still smiling
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| Subject: | Re: RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
>
Hi Richard,
Don't worry, Europas are being advertised in the Kit Planes buyers
directory now for $37 to $38K. I paid what I paid 4 years ago and I was
being a little general in the statement. It was around $26 before FWF
and any other extra items.
Jeff
A258
The worst case of flu I ever had is about over! Working on final fit of
the panel and the bird will be going to the airport by next week for
weight & balance and to wait out the inspection time.
> I am surprised no-one has picked up on one item in Jeff's
> mail.
>
> He talks about $26K for a kit. I assume that is stages 1,
> 2 & 3 with no firewall forward. The price here in England
> is 20,795 GBP and I expect VAT is to be added making it
> 24,434. (mono)
> .
> Even without VAT the 20,795 GBP becomes around $35k or
> $36k. Yet kits sold in the US have been shipped across the
> Atlantic.
>
> So Jeff paid $10k less than a Brit would have even without
> adding VAT which would be another $5k.
>
> So were they being sold at a loss in the US (I wonder what
> the current quoted US price is) or are we in England being
> overcharged ?
>
> I could rant more but it is time to go out :-)
>
> Richard Holder
>
> From: "JEFF ROBERTS" <jeff@rmmm.net>
>> As usual with this list these things get carried way to
>> far past what builders need. If anything, you all are
>> simply hurting the new builder's attitude towards
>> weather he's made a smart purchase in the Europa. If
>> the filters are not the way to go then would all of you
>> that have turned to a different direction take it up
>> with Europa! Sounds like Europa should be selling kits
>> with gascolators instead of filters. If a builder needs
>> help he should ask the list and hopefully get the
>> answers needed. More and more I see this forum being
>> used to defend ones own, or a buddy's opinion or
>> integrity. Remember there people out here needing
>> encouragement and help and all this arguing does is
>> discourage the poor sap that laid down $26K for a kit
>> with cheep inline filters. If they don't serve there
>> intent tell Europa to quit selling them! Jeff A258 Do
>> not archive.
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com>
> The 26k price that Jeff indicated was the kit cost several years ago. The
> current pricing is in the area of 38k.
> Bob Berube
And unforutnately at that price Europa 2004 is unlikely to ever sell another
kit in the US, or outside of Europe for that matter.
Paul
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Hey Richard- havn't you noticed that we are ripped off for EVERYTHING in
u.k. ?
I hope to be flying inOz in a couple of weeks' time and the fuel there is
ratrher less than half u.k. prices and they have no oil resources of their own!
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: RunningTemps and Right Roll |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Tony
Your role trim is normal I think. I built a 2"x8" tab into the port aileron. It
is adjustable from the cockpit and is very useful. Pictures are included at
europaowners.org . Your low temperature would be normal for my Rotax. I am
not worried about it. Much better than to hot !
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
http://www.europaowners.org/WileE
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| Subject: | RE: fitting gascolator |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "gottfried" <gottfried.komaier@gmx.net>
To all 914 owners,
I am not an Europa-Owner, but an 914-Owner as well and read your discussion very
interested.
Why don't you install the fuel-pumps in series as described in the Operator's Manual
-page 9-2 dated Dez 01/98, and in the Maintenance Manual -page 32 dated
1997-02-01! The installation of the pumps in parallel acc. the Installation
Manual is dated 1996-05-10! So you will see, that the connection in series is
the latest recommendation. This would reduce the fuel-flow trough the pumps and
the returning fuel from the pressure regulator by 50%. On the other hand, the
series-installation would reduce a lot of the filter problems as well.
How you see that?
----------------
Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Ampreg 20 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2006-01-07 07:27 -0800 Flying Farmer wrote:
>The solution was to wash out with soapy water
Richard - either your water or your soap must be different to what I
can get in Cheltenham - despite advice from SP that each component of
SP20 is water-soluble before thay meet up with each other, I have
never managed to clean off either resin or hardener completely
satisfactorily with anything less than acetone.
My second-hand pump was squirting out brown stuff when I first tried
it, despite the input liquids being clean cleaning out the
rust in the pump innards solved that (after emptying the reservoirs -
a glass turkey baster is the answer here!).
Beats me why they don't make the metal bits out of stainless instead
of mild steel - after all they charge enough for it ...
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/>
| 750 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
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| Subject: | RE: fitting gascolator |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Hi Gottfried and all,
>So you will see, that the connection in series is the latest recommendation. This
would reduce the fuel-flow trough the pumps and the returning fuel from the
pressure regulator by 50%. On the other hand, the series-installation would
reduce a lot of the filter problems as well.
>
>
>
Just like you I'm a Rotax 914 builder and pilot, though I'm not a Europa
builder.
The discussion on gascolator is most interesting.
Concerning the pumps,
*Series mounting :* very strange suggestion indeed on the part of Rotax,
since each pump offers a significant restriction to fuel flow. I
questioned our Rotax importer and he could see no technical reasons for
this odd installation.
*Parallel mounting :* the Rotax installation manual is obviously wrong,
since the Pierburg pumps are more or less "transparent" to fuel flow.
With no check valve in series with each pump, the fuel will flow back
through the other pump when only one is operating.
Pierburg documentation shows the classical installation in parallel with
two check valves.
The Rotax importer could see no reasons not to use the Pierburg "normal"
circuit.
So we installed the pumps in parallel, with two check-valves.
There is a finger screen in each of the wing tanks, then one in-line
auto fuel filter on each line issuing from the tank, then the fuel
enters a common Andair mini gascolator before the Y fitting to the pumps
and then through the firewall to the engine fuel regulator.
Each tank has its sump and drain, as required by the FAR 23.
We never experienced any engine trouble.
We found some carbon particles in the tank drains for a few hours after
building, and the in-line filters were changed within the first 25
hours, with carbon particles and aluminum filings on the "paper". But
the finger screens were always clean, and no particle or water found its
way to the gascolator.
FWIW,
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | XS Monowheel hot cylinders? |
From: "R\351mi Guerner" <ai...
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rmi Guerner" <air.guerner@wanadoo.fr>
Ron,
From my record book:
With the 914: I had 2 CHT probes and 4 EGTs. ROTAX cooling air baffle installed.
CHT2 was always between 2 and 5 degrees Celsius hotter than CHT3. EGT 3 was
generally the hottest but not always. Sometimes EGT4 was the highest. According
to the ROTAX factory, cylinder 2 was supposed to be the leanest and EGT 2
the highest but I never got that on my own engine.
Now with the 912S: I have 2 CHTs and no EGT. ROTAX cooling air baffle installed.
CHT3 is always between 8 and 15 degrees Celsius hotter than CHT2.
Note that threaded CHT probes can be installed only on cyl 2 and 3.
Hope that helps.
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 288 hours on a 914 + 89 hours since fitted with
the 912S.
Time: 03:50:44 AM PST US
Subject: Europa-List: XS Monowheel hot cylinders?
From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
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Those flying XS Monowheel with 914 which cylinder on each side show
highest for EGT and CHT?
Those flying XS Monowheel with 912S (with Rotax cooling air baffle
installed) which cylinder on each side show highest for EGT and CHT?
I will be monitoring just 2 cylinders for 914 XS Monowheel for CHT and EGT
and would like to position sensors on the hot "SIDE" of things.
Our 914 / XS Monowheel has an Airmaster, intercooler, factory recommended
stainless firewall, Rotax cooling air baffle.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Hi Elbie
I figured out which wire in the wing goes to sensor center (PC) but I don't
know how to determine which of the other wires go to (PH) or (PL). Is there
a way to do that?
The output connections from pin 2 (orange) and from pin 3 (green) I can
identify where they exit the side of the aircraft at the wing root by using
an ohmmeter. Strangely enough Pin 15 (yellow) has no resistance measurable
between it and the orange ore green wires. Is this the way it should be or
have I screwed up behind the panel? Egad, I hope I don't have to take the
panel out again.
Any help appreciated.
Tom Friedland
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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 12/27/05
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Europa Builders & owners
As everyone who was at OSH in '05 knows Monday night we had a big blow.
Unfortunately, my album of photos was nearly totally destroyed by moisture
when
our tents blew down. Many of the photographs were originals and sadly I
had
no duplicates. Between this and a computer hard drive failure I have lost
a
large number of photos from my customers.
I am unable to contact many due to e-mail address changes, moving etc. If
you have the RiteAngle installed on your aircraft please send me either via
e-mail or postal a copy if you would. I lost many photos going back over
10
years from our R&D days. Thanks in advance!
Sincerely,
Elbie
Elbie Mendenhall
EM Aviation, LLC
13411 NE Prairie Rd
Brush Prairie, WA 98606
360-260-0772
_www.riteangle.com_ (http://www.riteangle.com/)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ray Knapp" <rmkhomes@gmail.com>
Hi All,
Well, I got all excited, purchased a kit, planned to complete it in
a hurry - and - CHANGES. My business has boomed - I simply have no
time. Will have to stick with Cessna. So I've got Kit # A196 for sale
- $22,000. Full monowheel kit, fast build options, long range fuel tank
& speed kit. No work done except all steel parts are Cadmium plated.
Wings still shrink-wrapped. Located in Medford, Oregon. E-mail is
best: rmkhomes@gmail.com or call 541-512-2323.
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