---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/10/06: 32 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:39 AM - Re: Putting on weight (Jos Okhuijsen) 2. 02:33 AM - Re: Putting on weight (Richard Iddon) 3. 03:06 AM - Re: Europa Club break-in to Colditz (David Joyce) 4. 03:18 AM - Re: RunningTemps and Right Roll (David Joyce) 5. 05:07 AM - Re: Test post Mat -> Eur (Steve Crimm) 6. 06:15 AM - Re: Test post Mat -> Eur (Paul Sweeting) 7. 07:12 AM - Re: Europa Club break-in to Colditz (Peter Grant) 8. 08:37 AM - Re: glass fitting (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 9. 09:55 AM - Re: Test post Mat -> Eur (SteveD) 10. 09:59 AM - rivets (RK Hallett III) 11. 10:28 AM - Re: glass fitting (JEFF ROBERTS) 12. 10:42 AM - Re: rivets (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 13. 10:55 AM - Tires for Trigear (Thomas Scherer) 14. 11:03 AM - Europa motorglider as a tug? (Ronald J. Parigoris) 15. 11:29 AM - Re: Re: rivets (Michel Auvray) 16. 11:37 AM - Re: Tires for Trigear (Richard Holder) 17. 11:44 AM - Re: Tires for Trigear (NevEyre@aol.com) 18. 01:13 PM - Size of Tires for Trigear (Paul Boulet) 19. 01:46 PM - Re: Size of Tires for Trigear (Paul Boulet) 20. 02:00 PM - Re: Size of Tires for Trigear (ivor.phillips) 21. 02:02 PM - Re: Size of Tires for Trigear (Jeff B) 22. 02:46 PM - FW: Size of Tires for Trigear (R.C.Harrison) 23. 03:17 PM - Re: RunningTemps and Right Roll (Tony Bale) 24. 03:26 PM - Re: glass fitting (Robert Berube) 25. 03:38 PM - Re: Re: Test post Mat -> Eur (karelvranken) 26. 04:25 PM - Re: Test post Mat -> Eur (SteveD) 27. 05:31 PM - Jos's filling advice.... (SteveD) 28. 05:38 PM - Re: glass fitting (Steve Hagar) 29. 06:44 PM - Re: Re: Test post Mat -> Eur (Cliff Shaw) 30. 07:14 PM - Re: Europa motorglider as a tug? (Michael Grass) 31. 09:35 PM - Re: rivets (N914RB) 32. 10:57 PM - Re: rivets (RK Hallett III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:39:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Putting on weight From: "Jos Okhuijsen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" From personal experience i know that ultralight kilos weigh 25 % less then real life kilos. Jos Okhuijsen, do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:39 AM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Putting on weight --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" Post Script to previous mesasge. Just received my fuel drain mod from Europa. I guess it will weigh about three pounds when fitted. Ah well, who needs baggage anyway! Richard Iddon G-RIXS Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon Subject: Europa-List: Putting on weight --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" When my tri gear was first completed a couple of years ago, it weighed in at what I thought was a creditable 818 lbs. Since then, as most of us do I guess, I have played about and added a few extra's such as fire extinguisher, first aid kit, tool roll, Hi viz jackets etc. each of which I considered would make no significant difference to the W&B calcs. Whilst my bird is at home at present, and I have just replaced the tailplane torque tube pins and fitted new tyres, I decided to check the weight again. I have put on 45lbs! Now two up, with full fuel, I can carry three whole pounds of baggage before becoming overweight. I guess I need to go on a diet! Richard Iddon G-RIXS ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:03 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Club break-in to Colditz --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" Jeremy, I am up for that please with G-XSDJ. Since I have bought back the other half from Bev Hill, I no longer have an automatic partner. There are several people I may ask but may also be in a situation to take one of yours if you have a list of keen copilots. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club break-in to Colditz > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" > > Yes, you read right. Colditz in the former East Germany, home of the > infamous Colditz Castle, World War 2 PoW camp for the Prominenter > (high-profile prisoners) and the Deutchfeindlich ('bad-boys' of the > incarcerated Allied forces). > > We're organising a Club trip to visit the Castle. To make this even more > enticing, we're taking Garsham Robertson, Colditz expert and tour guide with > us. There are never any guarantees, but it is possible that Garsh may be > able to get us into parts of the castle one does not normally get to see (in > the past this has included the attic where the glider was built, Douglas > Bader's room, the theatre, the corridor over the gate to the guardhouse, and > the chapel with the famous French tunnel (but not the tunnel itself)). > > Dates will be Friday 19th through Monday 21st/Tuesday 22nd May this year, > and will include a full day at the castle. It will be an event not to be > missed, but numbers will be very limited. > > If you are interested in joining the trip, please let me know. Please > indicate if you have your own aircraft and if you will be able to take a > passenger. Places will be allocated on a first-come-first-served basis, but > I'm afraid I need to reserve the right to prioritise those able to take a > passenger as not everyone involved in organising this has an airworthy > plane. > > If you'd like a 'recommended reading' list before you go, please just let me > know. > > Regards, > Jeremy > Jeremy Davey > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA > Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative > PFA EC Member > > "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is > possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." > > Tail done > Standard XS wings with mods underway > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) > 1430 build hours to date, build currently stalled due to house moves and > lack of workshop > Intended fit: > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > National Patient Safety Agency - supporting Doctors.net.uk members in safe practice. > http://www.doctors.net.uk/NPSA > _______________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:18:04 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" Tony, If you fit a Navaid that comes with its own adjustable trim, quite apart from making long distance cruising easier and safer and being a good back up for that day when you inadvertently find yourself in IMC. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bale" Subject: Re: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" > > Hi Cliff, > We are thinking long and hard about in flight adjustable trim > tab, due to the effect of pilot / passenger combinations, but PFA approval > will probably can that idea. > > With regard to temps, with the engine on cold oil it feels much harsher and > oil pressure drops, so we are working hard to fix the issue, but I was > interested to see other angles of thought ! > > ATB > > Tony. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cliff Shaw" > To: > Subject: Re: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" > > > > Tony > > > > Your role trim is normal I think. I built a 2"x8" tab into the port > aileron. It is adjustable from the cockpit and is very useful. Pictures are > included at europaowners.org . Your low temperature would be normal for > my Rotax. I am not worried about it. Much better than to hot ! > > > > Cliff Shaw > > 1041 Euclid ave. > > Edmonds, WA 98020 > > 425 776 5555 > > http://www.europaowners.org/WileE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > National Patient Safety Agency - supporting Doctors.net.uk members in safe practice. > http://www.doctors.net.uk/NPSA > _______________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:21 AM PST US From: "Steve Crimm" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" But...how many know who Vishnu was? Steve Crimm N42AH A058 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteveD Subject: Europa-List: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" This is a test post to see what happens when I post on MatronicsForum shadowed by the Listserver imported to EuropaOwners. Hopefully the internet won't imploded in a ball of cold fusion. [Shocked] Just to poke the bear with a pointy stick, I think I'll add an attachment... Hopefully this will all work out. "Now I have become Vishnu, the destroyer of Forums." Chat Later, Steved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2369#2369 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/test_713.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:16 AM PST US From: "Paul Sweeting" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Sweeting" Senior Hindu god, member of the Trimurti (or triad) of senior Hindu gods, my Hindu colleague reliably informs me.. Vishnu is the preserver of the Universe, Brahma, the creator of Universe Shiva, the destroyer of the Universe Paul R Sweeting, -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Crimm Subject: RE: Europa-List: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" But...how many know who Vishnu was? Steve Crimm N42AH A058 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SteveD Subject: Europa-List: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" This is a test post to see what happens when I post on MatronicsForum shadowed by the Listserver imported to EuropaOwners. Hopefully the internet won't imploded in a ball of cold fusion. [Shocked] Just to poke the bear with a pointy stick, I think I'll add an attachment... Hopefully this will all work out. "Now I have become Vishnu, the destroyer of Forums." Chat Later, Steved Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2369#2369 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/test_713.jpg -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net -- -- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:05 AM PST US From: "Peter Grant" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Club break-in to Colditz --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" Yes please, Jeremy, Barry and I are up for it in G-OGAN Kind regards Peter Grant - G-OGAN TriGear 912S Airmaster +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10 The Sidings, Horncastle, Lincs LN9 5UA Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This email may contain confidential information; if you have received it in error please delete it from your system and inform the sender. We cannot be held responsible for any misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing messages are scanned by AVG 7 Professional. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Davey Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club break-in to Colditz --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Yes, you read right. Colditz in the former East Germany, home of the infamous Colditz Castle, World War 2 PoW camp for the Prominenter (high-profile prisoners) and the Deutchfeindlich ('bad-boys' of the incarcerated Allied forces). We're organising a Club trip to visit the Castle. To make this even more enticing, we're taking Garsham Robertson, Colditz expert and tour guide with us. There are never any guarantees, but it is possible that Garsh may be able to get us into parts of the castle one does not normally get to see (in the past this has included the attic where the glider was built, Douglas Bader's room, the theatre, the corridor over the gate to the guardhouse, and the chapel with the famous French tunnel (but not the tunnel itself)). Dates will be Friday 19th through Monday 21st/Tuesday 22nd May this year, and will include a full day at the castle. It will be an event not to be missed, but numbers will be very limited. If you are interested in joining the trip, please let me know. Please indicate if you have your own aircraft and if you will be able to take a passenger. Places will be allocated on a first-come-first-served basis, but I'm afraid I need to reserve the right to prioritise those able to take a passenger as not everyone involved in organising this has an airworthy plane. If you'd like a 'recommended reading' list before you go, please just let me know. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1430 build hours to date, build currently stalled due to house moves and lack of workshop Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:32 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: glass fitting --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Steve, Do mean that (per Phoenix composites) you wet out and apply two layers of "the lightest fiberglass cloth available" and then, while still wet, set in the plexi? Or am I getting this wrong? And this prevents a crack in the paint from developing at the joint between the paint and the plexi? Just looking for clarification. I was getting close to doing this when I read your post. Also, did you paint your doors before installing the plexi? Mike Duane Redding, California XS Conventional Gear ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:27 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: RE: Test post Mat -> Eur From: "SteveD" --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" Sorry I was off on a nuclear theme. After viewing the first atomic bomb explosion, as others cheered and clapped, a reserved J. Robert Oppenheimer said , "I am become Vishnu - the destroyer of worlds." Steved Do not archive Wiring, and body filling. ---------------- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:57 AM PST US From: RK Hallett III Subject: Europa-List: rivets --> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III A riveting question for all... I'm trying to buy some extra rivets from A/C spruce, but am having problems with the coding. TLPD 435BS is equal to ???? what in Spruce talk? I'd be happy to purchase them from Europa, but was trying to reduce the shipping time. Thanks in advance, Ralph RK Hallett Reno, NV XS M/G ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:28:05 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: glass fitting --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS Mike, Don't paint anything until everything is done. Install the plexi as per instructions. I filled in the gaps with quick-cell. Some have laid up a 2 inch tape of bid around the windshield at this point, but I did not. Then continue filling to sand smooth later, so the transition from glass to fuselage is even. I used PVC tape on the plexi all the way around the edges to protect it from the quick cell and later from sanding. Then re-taped it for priming and painting. When it's done the paint ends where the tape was and creates a perfect edge. Jeff A258 At the airport hanger ironing out some bugs. On Jan 10, 2006, at 10:35 AM, DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com > > Steve, > > Do mean that (per Phoenix composites) you wet out and apply two layers > of > "the lightest > fiberglass cloth available" and then, while still wet, set in the > plexi? Or > am I getting this wrong? And this prevents a crack in the paint from > developing > at the joint between the paint and the plexi? > > Just looking for clarification. > > I was getting close to doing this when I read your post. > > Also, did you paint your doors before installing the plexi? > > Mike Duane > Redding, California > XS Conventional Gear > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:42:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: rivets From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com 10/01/2006 01:41:58 PM, Serialize complete at 10/01/2006 01:41:58 PM --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com I found the Wicks catalogue much clearer on rivets, and they have the 3/32 ones which do not seem to appear in the A/S book. Dave A061 do not archive RK Hallett III Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 01/10/2006 12:59 PM Please respond to europa-list To: europa-list@matronics.com cc: Subject: Europa-List: rivets --> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III A riveting question for all... I'm trying to buy some extra rivets from A/C spruce, but am having problems with the coding. TLPD 435BS is equal to ???? what in Spruce talk? I'd be happy to purchase them from Europa, but was trying to reduce the shipping time. Thanks in advance, Ralph RK Hallett Reno, NV XS M/G ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:55:51 AM PST US From: "Thomas Scherer" Subject: Europa-List: Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: "Thomas Scherer" I would like to replace the main tires of my Trigear with smaller ones. Was wondering whether the same size tires as the nosewheel uses can be installed on the mains, too ? (I need the additional clearance for an enlarged prop - and would not mind the less drag). Anybody has a suggestion where to obtain fairings for those smaller tires then ? be well, ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:55 AM PST US From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Europa motorglider as a tug? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" I was reading on a Flight test of a Diamond HK 36 Super Dimona with a Rotax 914. Literature states a 27 to 1 L/D Article says it can tow a 1323 pound glider provided you keep gross weight of Diamond below 1587 pounds. If anyone wants, I can E-Mail you a 3 Meg PDF with article. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:04 AM PST US From: "Michel Auvray" Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: rivets --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michel Auvray" Bonjour Dave, There is a very good adress for aircraft screws, bolts, all rivets types and many others components and tools it is "airpartsinc.com" bientt, ======= le 10/01/2006, 19:41:50 vous criviez: ======= >--> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com > >I found the Wicks catalogue much clearer on rivets, and they have the 3/32 >ones which do not seem to appear in the A/S book. > >Dave A061 > >do not archive > > >RK Hallett III >Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >01/10/2006 12:59 PM >Please respond to europa-list > > > To: europa-list@matronics.com > cc: > Subject: Europa-List: rivets > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III > >A riveting question for all... > >I'm trying to buy some extra rivets from A/C spruce, but am having >problems with the coding. TLPD 435BS is equal to ???? what in Spruce talk? > >I'd be happy to purchase them from Europa, but was trying to reduce the >shipping time. > >Thanks in advance, >Ralph >RK Hallett >Reno, NV >XS M/G > > > > > > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = ========= = = = = = = = = = Michel Auvray mau11@free.fr 10/01/2006 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:37:25 AM PST US From: Richard Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder Thomas Scherer wrote: > I would like to replace the main tires of my Trigear > with smaller ones. Was wondering whether the same size > tires as the nosewheel uses can be installed on the > mains, too ? > > (I need the additional clearance for an enlarged prop - > and would not mind the less drag). > > Anybody has a suggestion where to obtain fairings for > those smaller tires then ? > > be well, > > Have you thought of putting a larger tyre (tire) on the front instead ! Same effect ! Only one tyre to buy ! Also smaller main wheels might be a problem on grass surfaces ! Richard ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:44:37 AM PST US From: NevEyre@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com The nosewheel fork will not accomadate a larger tyre, but smaller ones [ same size as nosewheel] will fit on the main gear, [ with smaller tubes, of course] This was standard fit on the pre XS Trigear. Long grass / soft ground will create more rolling resistance with the smaller tyres. Cheers, Nev. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:31 PM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet This is slightly off topic- just finished the conversion from mono wheel to tri gear and have the Matco wheels/brakes. Anyone know the tire size for the front and mains? Thanks Paul Boulet, N914PB, Malibu, California Richard Holder wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder Thomas Scherer wrote: > I would like to replace the main tires of my Trigear > with smaller ones. Was wondering whether the same size > tires as the nosewheel uses can be installed on the > mains, too ? > > (I need the additional clearance for an enlarged prop - > and would not mind the less drag). > > Anybody has a suggestion where to obtain fairings for > those smaller tires then ? > > be well, > > Have you thought of putting a larger tyre (tire) on the front instead ! Same effect ! Only one tyre to buy ! Also smaller main wheels might be a problem on grass surfaces ! Richard ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:46:12 PM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet just found out the mains are 500x5 and the nose is 11x4x5. Thanks Paul Boulet wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet This is slightly off topic- just finished the conversion from mono wheel to tri gear and have the Matco wheels/brakes. Anyone know the tire size for the front and mains? Thanks Paul Boulet, N914PB, Malibu, California Richard Holder wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder Thomas Scherer wrote: > I would like to replace the main tires of my Trigear > with smaller ones. Was wondering whether the same size > tires as the nosewheel uses can be installed on the > mains, too ? > > (I need the additional clearance for an enlarged prop - > and would not mind the less drag). > > Anybody has a suggestion where to obtain fairings for > those smaller tires then ? > > be well, > > Have you thought of putting a larger tyre (tire) on the front instead ! Same effect ! Only one tyre to buy ! Also smaller main wheels might be a problem on grass surfaces ! Richard ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:44 PM PST US From: "ivor.phillips" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" Paul Taken off my tyres Main 5.00 -5 Nose wheel 11 X 4.00 - 5 Subject: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear > > This is slightly off topic- just finished the conversion from mono wheel > to tri gear and have the Matco wheels/brakes. Anyone know the tire size > for the front and mains? Ivor ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:02:29 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B Not looking at the plane or the book, but I believe they are listed as 500-5 for the mains and 400-11(?) for the nose... Jeff - N55XS 130 hrs Paul Boulet wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > This is slightly off topic- just finished the conversion from mono wheel to tri gear and have the Matco wheels/brakes. Anyone know the tire size for the front and mains? Thanks > Paul Boulet, N914PB, Malibu, California > > Richard Holder wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder > > Thomas Scherer wrote: > > >>I would like to replace the main tires of my Trigear >>with smaller ones. Was wondering whether the same size >>tires as the nosewheel uses can be installed on the >>mains, too ? >> >>(I need the additional clearance for an enlarged prop - >>and would not mind the less drag). >> >>Anybody has a suggestion where to obtain fairings for >>those smaller tires then ? >> >>be well, >> >> > > > > Have you thought of putting a larger tyre (tire) on the > front instead ! Same effect ! > > Only one tyre to buy ! > > Also smaller main wheels might be a problem on grass > surfaces ! > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:21 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: FW: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Attention Paul Boulet. Further to Ivors message below :- Your main gear wheels could be either 4" or 5" depending on the wheel centres you have been delivered or specified. At least when I was supplied my conversion kit I was given the option of 4" the same as the nose gear or 5" depending if I would be using soft grass air strips or not ? Better look what wheel centres you have ? and or check with Europa . Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 c/w 5" main gear wheels. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ivor.phillips Subject: Re: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" Paul Taken off my tyres Main 5.00 -5 Nose wheel 11 X 4.00 - 5 Subject: Europa-List: Size of Tires for Trigear > > This is slightly off topic- just finished the conversion from mono wheel > to tri gear and have the Matco wheels/brakes. Anyone know the tire size > for the front and mains? Ivor ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 03:17:23 PM PST US From: "Tony Bale" Subject: Re: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" Thanks David, food for thought.... We are thinking around an in flight adjustable via a metal geared model aircraft servo - but that is very early days - approval and all that to consider (and making it look good ofcourse !). ATB Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" > > Tony, If you fit a Navaid that comes with its own adjustable trim, quite > apart from making long distance cruising easier and safer and being a good > back up for that day when you inadvertently find yourself in IMC. Regards, > David Joyce, G-XSDJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Bale" > To: > Subject: Re: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Bale" > > > > Hi Cliff, > > We are thinking long and hard about in flight adjustable trim > > tab, due to the effect of pilot / passenger combinations, but PFA approval > > will probably can that idea. > > > > With regard to temps, with the engine on cold oil it feels much harsher > and > > oil pressure drops, so we are working hard to fix the issue, but I was > > interested to see other angles of thought ! > > > > ATB > > > > Tony. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cliff Shaw" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: RunningTemps and Right Roll > > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" > > > > > > Tony > > > > > > Your role trim is normal I think. I built a 2"x8" tab into the port > > aileron. It is adjustable from the cockpit and is very useful. Pictures > are > > included at europaowners.org . Your low temperature would be normal for > > my Rotax. I am not worried about it. Much better than to hot ! > > > > > > Cliff Shaw > > > 1041 Euclid ave. > > > Edmonds, WA 98020 > > > 425 776 5555 > > > http://www.europaowners.org/WileE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > National Patient Safety Agency - supporting Doctors.net.uk members in safe > practice. > > http://www.doctors.net.uk/NPSA > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:26:30 PM PST US From: "Robert Berube" Subject: RE: Europa-List: glass fitting --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" Mike, Once you get the glass bonded in then apply 2 layers of light weight glass over the seam. It only has to be about 1 inch wide to cover the joint between the glass and fuselage or your paint will eventually crack due to dissimilar materials. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: glass fitting --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Steve, Do mean that (per Phoenix composites) you wet out and apply two layers of "the lightest fiberglass cloth available" and then, while still wet, set in the plexi? Or am I getting this wrong? And this prevents a crack in the paint from developing at the joint between the paint and the plexi? Just looking for clarification. I was getting close to doing this when I read your post. Also, did you paint your doors before installing the plexi? Mike Duane Redding, California XS Conventional Gear ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:38:09 PM PST US From: "karelvranken" Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "karelvranken" Another theme. Does anyone know about Phil Lockwoods article regarding Rotax engine cooling? Karel Vranken. ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveD" Subject: Europa-List: RE: Test post Mat -> Eur > --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" > > Sorry I was off on a nuclear theme. > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 04:25:42 PM PST US pointers: Subject: Europa-List: RE: Test post Mat -> Eur From: "SteveD" --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" Yes, Available at: http://www.europaowners.org/dlman.php?func=select_folder&folder_id=17 Chat Later, Steved do not archive ---------------- ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:47 PM PST US pointers: Subject: Europa-List: Jos's filling advice.... From: "SteveD" --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" [img:8519dc3b15]http://www.europaowners.org/modules/gallery/albums/trip-to-the-2nd-fret-shop/IMG_0713.sized.jpg[/img:8519dc3b15] In the photo gallery Jos Wrote: "First filling. Some advice: First sand the gloss off. Then apply epoxy as thin as possible. Then mix resin in a small bucket. We used 400 gram batches at a time. Add 3 handfulls of expancel. Mix, first with a solid stick, then use your hands and hit it until it is a nice thick dough. Apply thick enough to cover the highest tops, and as evenly as possible. If it shines it was too wet. If it comes up after the knife, it may be to dry. Too wet makes it hard to sand and it is heavy on the plane." This paragraph made my life very easy, and I had a great laugh. I don't know what it was, the temp, humidity, I don't know. But when I put my hands in the bucket the mix just stuck, fronts, backs, I think it tried to run up my arms. I couldn't get or touch anything, I had to get new gloves just to clean off the old ones. Then I pictured Jos chucking to himself "I wonder if anyone is really going to stick his hands in this stuff." Other than a good laugh this procedure worked perfectly. Chat Later, Steved ---------------- ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:48 PM PST US From: "Steve Hagar" Subject: Re: Europa-List: glass fitting --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" No the fiberglass was lain up after the bonding is complete, over the interface between the edge of the lexan and the window frame. Peel ply over this to get a smoother surface then fill and paint. I believe my layup strip was only about 3/4" wide. Steve Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 1/10/2006 9:36:10 AM > Subject: Re: Europa-List: glass fitting > > --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com > > Steve, > > Do mean that (per Phoenix composites) you wet out and apply two layers of > "the lightest > fiberglass cloth available" and then, while still wet, set in the plexi? Or > am I getting this wrong? And this prevents a crack in the paint from developing > at the joint between the paint and the plexi? > > Just looking for clarification. > > I was getting close to doing this when I read your post. > > Also, did you paint your doors before installing the plexi? > > Mike Duane > Redding, California > XS Conventional Gear > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:18 PM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Steve Thanks for the files from Lockwood. I read a couple and found them very good. I recommend that every one read all of the articles. There would be fewer questions and less worried builder if more of us had read all the files. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ----- Original Message ----- From: SteveD Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 4:23 PM Subject: Europa-List: RE: Test post Mat -> Eur --> Europa-List message posted by: "SteveD" Yes, Available at: http://www.europaowners.org/dlman.php?funcselect_folder&folder_id17 Chat Later, Steved do not archive ---------------- ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:44 PM PST US From: "Michael Grass" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa motorglider as a tug? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" Ron, Yes please, or even better, post them at europaowners.org Thanks Michael Grass A266 Trigear Detroit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Europa motorglider as a tug? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" > > > I was reading on a Flight test of a Diamond HK 36 Super Dimona with a > Rotax 914. > > Literature states a 27 to 1 L/D > > Article says it can tow a 1323 pound glider provided you keep gross weight > of Diamond > below 1587 pounds. > > If anyone wants, I can E-Mail you a 3 Meg PDF with article. > > Ron Parigoris > > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:54 PM PST US From: "N914RB" Subject: RE: Europa-List: rivets --> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" Hi Ralph, I'm sure you have that figured out by no on the rivets but I just had the same problem last night. Needed a couple of TLPD429BS's for the flap control rod. A/S was indecipherable but Wicks made some sense after I converted Europa's lingo from mm to in. I always order a few sizes larger and smaller when it's cheap stuff like that (9 cents). Anyway, hope your building is coming along. I got my engine today so I'm stoked again. Happy building. Dan Dan Bish N914RB - Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RK Hallett III Subject: Europa-List: rivets --> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III A riveting question for all... I'm trying to buy some extra rivets from A/C spruce, but am having problems with the coding. TLPD 435BS is equal to ???? what in Spruce talk? I'd be happy to purchase them from Europa, but was trying to reduce the shipping time. Thanks in advance, Ralph RK Hallett Reno, NV XS M/G ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:45 PM PST US From: RK Hallett III Subject: Re: Europa-List: rivets --> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III Dan, Thanks for the info, I will find a Wicks cat and start figure'n ;) Hung my engine two weeks ago, it really makes it look like some progress is taking place. And, I really did need a booster. Still working on getting the angles set. BTW, don't hang the oil can until you've got the air box in place ;). I really must read further ahead. Good to hear from you. Ralph N914RB wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "N914RB" > >Hi Ralph, > >I'm sure you have that figured out by no on the rivets but I just had the >same problem last night. Needed a couple of TLPD429BS's for the flap control >rod. A/S was indecipherable but Wicks made some sense after I converted >Europa's lingo from mm to in. I always order a few sizes larger and smaller >when it's cheap stuff like that (9 cents). > >Anyway, hope your building is coming along. I got my engine today so I'm >stoked again. Happy building. > >Dan >Dan Bish >N914RB - Tucson, AZ > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RK Hallett III >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: rivets > >--> Europa-List message posted by: RK Hallett III > >A riveting question for all... > >I'm trying to buy some extra rivets from A/C spruce, but am having >problems with the coding. TLPD 435BS is equal to ???? what in Spruce talk? > >I'd be happy to purchase them from Europa, but was trying to reduce the >shipping time. > >Thanks in advance, >Ralph >RK Hallett >Reno, NV >XS M/G > > > > > > > > > > > > > >