Europa-List Digest Archive

Fri 01/20/06


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 01:53 AM - DOTH Sat21st. Sleap (P.A.D.Clarke)
     2. 10:41 AM - Re: part #'s for CHT probes? (Richard Holder)
     3. 10:42 AM - Re: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap (Trevpond@aol.com)
     4. 11:01 AM - Re: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap (Pete Lawless)
     5. 11:38 AM - Re: part #'s for CHT probes? (Tony Krzyzewski)
     6. 01:02 PM - Rotax oil sender with switch ()
     7. 01:18 PM - Europa parts for sale ()
     8. 02:48 PM - Re: Rotax oil sender with switch (Steve Crimm)
     9. 10:25 PM - Re: Rotax oil sender with switch ()
    10. 11:17 PM - Battery rear for aft CG? ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:53:34 AM PST US
    From: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
    Subject: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net> Hi Folks, How about Sleap on Saturday? Voucher in Pilot. Cheers, Paddy Clarke. G-KIMM


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    Time: 10:41:51 AM PST US
    From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: part #'s for CHT probes?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > Has anyone used the Rotax supplied probe (the one in > the head) successfully with a VDO gauge? If so, will > it hook directly to the VDO gauge, or does it require > some sort of adapter? What, if any, difference should > I expect in reported temps? Any help is greatly > appreciated... Here on the eastern side of the pond the Rotax engine comes with four VDO instruments (voltmeter, oil pressure, oil temp and ch temp - the last two are the same). The VDO instruments are designed for the Rotax senders (or rather I suppose the senders are designed for the VDO instruments). ACS sell a much cheaper oil pressure sender. The temperature senders in the Rotax there are three - the one used for oil is the same as the one used for CHT - are metric and there isn't much of a choice when replacing them. If you want water temp (rather than cylinder head temp) then use a imperial thread sender designed for VDO and either tap it into the top water reservoir, or into a T-piece on the pipe out of the reservoir. Richard Holder G-OWWW High Cross


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    Time: 10:42:41 AM PST US
    From: Trevpond@aol.com
    Subject: Re: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Trevpond@aol.com Hi Paddy, What time? Trev Pond G-LINN


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    Time: 11:01:57 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info> Hi Paddy Sounds like a resounding lack of interest. I am game but I can't get there until 1330 ish as I have commitments in the morning. The 18hr TAFs are looking ok. Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of P.A.D.Clarke Sent: 20 January 2006 09:52 Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap --> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net> Hi Folks, How about Sleap on Saturday? Voucher in Pilot. Cheers, Paddy Clarke. G-KIMM -- 17/01/2006 -- 20/01/2006


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    Time: 11:38:17 AM PST US
    Subject: part #'s for CHT probes?
    From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz> > ACS sell a much cheaper oil pressure sender. The > temperature senders in the Rotax there are three - the one > used for oil is the same as the one used for CHT - are > metric and there isn't much of a choice when replacing them. Westach sell cht and oil temperature senders with metric threads which are a direct replacement for the VDO senders supplied with the Rotax engines. I've replaced my VDO senders with these as well as fitting 4 x Westach egt senders to my914 to support the (now defunct) Audio Flight Avionics AFA10 engine management system. For water temperature I used a Skydrive supplied fitting which sits in one of the hoses leading from the swirl pot and has another Westac CHT sender screwed into it. Regards Tony


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    Time: 01:02:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Rotax oil sender with switch
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Lockwood Aviation now sells a oil pressure sender with a extra switch contact on it (VDO). I will use the switch to run a low oil pressure indicator, and also to power a relay that will stop my Hobbs from running. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 01:18:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Europa parts for sale
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> I know nothing about except what site says. http://www.donateyourplane.com/europa_materials.htm Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 02:48:57 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    Subject: Rotax oil sender with switch
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> Ron, got a part number? Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 16:01 Subject: Europa-List: Rotax oil sender with switch --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Lockwood Aviation now sells a oil pressure sender with a extra switch contact on it (VDO). I will use the switch to run a low oil pressure indicator, and also to power a relay that will stop my Hobbs from running. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 10:25:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Rotax oil sender with switch
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Hello Steve No part number this second, Tisha is sending me one. Give her a call, or I can give it to you once my order arrives. Ron P. "Ron, got a part number?"


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    Time: 11:17:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Battery rear for aft CG?
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> I have heard mixed feelings on mounting battery on foot well or aft to get a more aft CG. I ground some numbers tonight. I used: ****a 62 inch CG, then calculated upset from this point ****used both a PC 545 (12 pounds)and PC680 (15.4 pounds) ****Considered the cables from the footwell to buss and motor needed on all three scenarios so did not penalize footwell mount ****used three positions on each battery: 1) top of right footwell, 2) right rear baggage bay, 3) right just aft of baggage bay bulkhead ****weight of wire used was for #4 copper clad aluminium wire, but under no scenario if #4 pure copper wire was used would it add more than 1 pound (less actual) The #4 copper clad aluminium wire is larger in diameter than copper #4: http://www.periheliondesign.com./fatwires.htm Bottom line, battery on right footwell and adding lead to forward lower front face of sternpost to achieve same aft CG as rear mounted battery adds between 7 and 9 extra pounds for a given CG! Range from 7 pounds first to 9 pounds: 545 / right rear baggage bay (~ 7 pounds lighter overall) 545 / right just aft of baggage bay bulkhead 680 / right rear baggage bay 680 / right just aft of baggage bay bulkhead ( ~ 9 pounds lighter overall) Above includes the added weight and longer run of 2 cables and its effect on CG. I did not include weight of lugs or battery mounting, if I did it would make case for aft mounted battery only look better. Comments please. Ron Parigoris




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