Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 01/21/06


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:40 AM - Re: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap ()
     2. 06:35 AM - Re: Battery rear for aft CG? (SPurpura@AOL.COM)
     3. 07:19 AM - Re: Carb heat mod (willie harrison)
     4. 08:53 AM - Re: Battery rear for aft CG? (Rman)
     5. 09:00 AM - Re: part #'s for CHT probes? (Rman)
     6. 09:21 AM - Re: Battery rear for aft CG? (Peter Rees)
     7. 06:53 PM - Hans Schwartz's jack stand (scrimm)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:07 AM PST US
    From: <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
    Subject: Re: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <paddyclarke@lineone.net> Hi Trevor, 1200 ish, Cheers Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Trevpond@aol.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Sat21st. Sleap > --> Europa-List message posted by: Trevpond@aol.com > > Hi Paddy, > > What time? > > Trev Pond > G-LINN > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:35:12 AM PST US
    From: SPurpura@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Battery rear for aft CG?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com I mounted the battery below baggage bay shelf on stbd side and my CG is good nor requiring any ballast.


    Message 3


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    Time: 07:19:54 AM PST US
    From: "willie harrison" <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Carb heat mod
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "willie harrison" <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk> 912uls -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of SPurpura@aol.com Sent: 19 January 2006 02:29 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Carb heat mod --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com 912 or 914 power?


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    Time: 08:53:39 AM PST US
    From: Rman <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery rear for aft CG?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rman <topglock@cox.net> The CG will have a lot to do with which prop and which engine you use and your particular build. My bird, with 912S (lighter engine) and Airmaster (much heavier than warpdrive), ballances right about 60" with the 680 battery on top the right footwell. My build is probably a bit different than most, as I, not being one to trust "miracal" adhesives, added a few layers of BID to the fuse joint, all around. This, of course would add some weight to the rear of the plane. It's hard to go out of CG, with two occupants and enough baggage to get to gross weight. Even with less fuel, it seems to stay in CG. Jeff - N55XS 133 hours SPurpura@aol.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com > > I mounted the battery below baggage bay shelf on stbd side and my CG is good > nor requiring any ballast.


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    Time: 09:00:40 AM PST US
    From: Rman <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: part #'s for CHT probes?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rman <topglock@cox.net> Richard, Thanks for the information. I am currently using both CHT and water temp. The WT probe, as you recommend, is tapped into the reservoir outlet hose, via 1" "T". It reads from 190 degrees to 220 degrees, depending on the circumstances. The CHT, using the under the plug sender, supplied with my VDO gauge, reads around 275, under most circumstances. My concern is the large differential in the two readings and whether I should be concerned about it. I have not tried using the Rotax supplied probe. Maybe I'll try that and see if it makes a difference... Jeff - N55XS 133 hours Richard Holder wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk> > >>Has anyone used the Rotax supplied probe (the one in >>the head) successfully with a VDO gauge? If so, will >>it hook directly to the VDO gauge, or does it require >>some sort of adapter? What, if any, difference should >>I expect in reported temps? Any help is greatly >>appreciated... > > > Here on the eastern side of the pond the Rotax engine > comes with four VDO instruments (voltmeter, oil pressure, > oil temp and ch temp - the last two are the same). > > The VDO instruments are designed for the Rotax senders (or > rather I suppose the senders are designed for the VDO > instruments). > > ACS sell a much cheaper oil pressure sender. The > temperature senders in the Rotax there are three - the one > used for oil is the same as the one used for CHT - are > metric and there isn't much of a choice when replacing them. > > If you want water temp (rather than cylinder head temp) > then use a imperial thread sender designed for VDO and > either tap it into the top water reservoir, or into a > T-piece on the pipe out of the reservoir. > > Richard Holder > G-OWWW High Cross > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:21:29 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Battery rear for aft CG?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk> I'd think that to keep the resistance down, you'd need very thick cables to run from the back to the solenoid. If you're going to add this much weight, you may be better off putting the battery on top of the pax footwell and adding some dead weight in the back - more reliable electrically and more adjustable (both position and amount of weight) Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:16 AM Subject: Europa-List: Battery rear for aft CG? > --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> > > I have heard mixed feelings on mounting battery on foot well or aft to get > a more aft CG. > > I ground some numbers tonight. > > I used: > ****a 62 inch CG, then calculated upset from this point > ****used both a PC 545 (12 pounds)and PC680 (15.4 pounds) > ****Considered the cables from the footwell to buss and motor needed on > all three scenarios so did not penalize footwell mount > ****used three positions on each battery: 1) top of right footwell, 2) > right rear baggage bay, 3) right just aft of baggage bay bulkhead > ****weight of wire used was for #4 copper clad aluminium wire, but under > no scenario if #4 pure copper wire was used would it add more than 1 pound > (less actual) The #4 copper clad aluminium wire is larger in diameter than > copper #4: > http://www.periheliondesign.com./fatwires.htm > > Bottom line, battery on right footwell and adding lead to forward lower > front face of sternpost to achieve same aft CG as rear mounted battery > adds between 7 and 9 extra pounds for a given CG! > > Range from 7 pounds first to 9 pounds: > 545 / right rear baggage bay (~ 7 pounds lighter overall) > 545 / right just aft of baggage bay bulkhead > 680 / right rear baggage bay > 680 / right just aft of baggage bay bulkhead ( ~ 9 pounds lighter overall) > > Above includes the added weight and longer run of 2 cables and its effect > on CG. > > I did not include weight of lugs or battery mounting, if I did it would > make case for aft mounted battery only look better. > > Comments please. > > Ron Parigoris > > >


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    Time: 06:53:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Hans Schwartz's jack stand
    From: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> Does anyone know how I can get in touch with Hans. I would like some more information on his jack stand. Below is a link to a pic of the jack stand: http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album150&id=DSC01706&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php ----------------




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