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1. 05:25 AM - Re: Flap Washout (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com)
2. 06:34 AM - Throttle cable failure (David Corbett)
3. 06:46 AM - Awlgrip (Roger Sheridan)
4. 11:33 AM - Re: Throttle cable failure (Tim Ward)
5. 01:41 PM - Re: Throttle cable failure (Bryan Allsop)
6. 10:23 PM - Re: Throttle cable failure (William Mills)
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Subject: | Re: Flap Washout |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com
Just make sure when using the Smart level that you are not as dumb as me.
I couldn't figure out why the degrees of travel had changed on my
tailplane till I finally realised that I had hit the button and changed
the scale from degrees to percentage slope.
Dave A061
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"Flying Farmer" <funnyphone@btinternet.com>
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02/14/2006 04:49 PM
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Subject: Europa-List: Flap Washout
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Flying Farmer"
<funnyphone@btinternet.com>
Advice Needed
I just want to check something, before I get it wrong. Im setting
up the Flaps for the second skin lay-up, Top surface. When I did the first
surface, Bottom skin, I set the washout to 1.4o as described in the
manual, as I have a digital level it makes this operation easy. Now
setting up the Flaps for the top skin, Im checking the washout again, as
before; I find there is a large variation. My level is reading 2.2o, so my
question is, Should I still set this up for the washout as 1.4o? My own
answer is it should be set to 1.4o. But I would like some advice from
those who have been here before. Also any other tips.
Thank You.
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Subject: | Throttle cable failure |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst on
maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to be
completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for
duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of the
cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the nipple
is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt.
The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the engine
is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when the
throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than slide
through the outer.
Two questions arise:
1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of advisory
advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I find
it?
2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory
either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal friction?
For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done about
300 hours with a 912UL.
I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced
landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes -
the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do hope
that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still
installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not
notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my aircraft
a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue
material.
David
G-BZAM - UK 265
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Roger Sheridan <rogerjohnsheridan@yahoo.co.uk>
If anyone in the UK is interested in two gallons of unopened Awlgrip
Final Prime at half price please contact me off list.
Cheers,
Roger.
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Subject: | Re: Throttle cable failure |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
David,
Likewise, I changed all my fuel piping. The company issue is of very bad
quality and permeates easily to create a fuel smell in the cockpit and
eventual seepage. I eventually used marine fuel hosing.
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8005
New Zealand.
Ph +64 3 3515166
Mobile 021 0640221
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:31 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
>
> My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst on
> maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to
> be
> completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for
> duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of
> the
> cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the
> nipple
> is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt.
>
>
> The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the
> engine
> is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when
> the
> throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than slide
> through the outer.
>
>
> Two questions arise:
>
>
> 1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of
> advisory
> advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I find
> it?
>
>
> 2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory
> either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal
> friction?
>
>
> For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done about
> 300 hours with a 912UL.
>
>
> I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced
> landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes -
> the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do
> hope
> that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still
> installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not
> notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my
> aircraft
> a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue
> material.
>
>
> David
>
>
> G-BZAM - UK 265
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Throttle cable failure |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
Hi David,
I have just replaced a throttle cable which I damaged whilst servicing. It
was a new one from Europa, and identical to the original which had been in
service for five years in my XS 912s.
It does not appear to be lined, but then it does not have have any undue
internal friction and works well. I had to cut it to about three feet in
length. It routes in an arked path from the throttle control box, over the
top of the engine frame ( at either side of the elastic), and then straight
into the carb.
I know that this may not be a great deal of help, but then it could be.
Cheers! Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
>
> My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst on
> maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to
> be
> completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for
> duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of
> the
> cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the
> nipple
> is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt.
>
>
> The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the
> engine
> is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when
> the
> throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than slide
> through the outer.
>
>
> Two questions arise:
>
>
> 1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of
> advisory
> advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I find
> it?
>
>
> 2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory
> either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal
> friction?
>
>
> For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done about
> 300 hours with a 912UL.
>
>
> I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced
> landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes -
> the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do
> hope
> that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still
> installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not
> notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my
> aircraft
> a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue
> material.
>
>
> David
>
>
> G-BZAM - UK 265
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Throttle cable failure |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
Hi David,
I have just shortened both of mine, which are the originals (1994 ish), to
give them a smoother route and fresh ends for clamping and I can assure you
they have some sort of white plastic inner lining.
Hope that helps,
William
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop"
> <bryan@blackballclub.com>
>
> Hi David,
>
> I have just replaced a throttle cable which I damaged whilst servicing. It
> was a new one from Europa, and identical to the original which had been in
> service for five years in my XS 912s.
>
> It does not appear to be lined, but then it does not have have any undue
> internal friction and works well. I had to cut it to about three feet in
> length. It routes in an arked path from the throttle control box, over the
> top of the engine frame ( at either side of the elastic), and then
> straight
> into the carb.
>
> I know that this may not be a great deal of help, but then it could be.
>
> Cheers! Bryan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
> To: "Europa Forum " <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:31 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure
>
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
>>
>> My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst
>> on
>> maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to
>> be
>> completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for
>> duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of
>> the
>> cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the
>> nipple
>> is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt.
>>
>>
>>
>> The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the
>> engine
>> is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when
>> the
>> throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than
>> slide
>> through the outer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Two questions arise:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of
>> advisory
>> advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I
>> find
>> it?
>>
>>
>>
>> 2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory
>> either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal
>> friction?
>>
>>
>>
>> For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done
>> about
>> 300 hours with a 912UL.
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced
>> landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes -
>> the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do
>> hope
>> that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still
>> installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not
>> notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my
>> aircraft
>> a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue
>> material.
>>
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> G-BZAM - UK 265
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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