Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 02/15/06


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 05:25 AM - Re: Flap Washout (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com)
     2. 06:34 AM - Throttle cable failure (David Corbett)
     3. 06:46 AM - Awlgrip (Roger Sheridan)
     4. 11:33 AM - Re: Throttle cable failure (Tim Ward)
     5. 01:41 PM - Re: Throttle cable failure (Bryan Allsop)
     6. 10:23 PM - Re: Throttle cable failure (William Mills)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:25:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flap Washout
    From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Just make sure when using the Smart level that you are not as dumb as me. I couldn't figure out why the degrees of travel had changed on my tailplane till I finally realised that I had hit the button and changed the scale from degrees to percentage slope. Dave A061 Do not archive "Flying Farmer" <funnyphone@btinternet.com> Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 02/14/2006 04:49 PM Please respond to europa-list To: cc: Subject: Europa-List: Flap Washout --> Europa-List message posted by: "Flying Farmer" <funnyphone@btinternet.com> Advice Needed I just want to check something, before I get it wrong. Im setting up the Flaps for the second skin lay-up, Top surface. When I did the first surface, Bottom skin, I set the washout to 1.4o as described in the manual, as I have a digital level it makes this operation easy. Now setting up the Flaps for the top skin, Im checking the washout again, as before; I find there is a large variation. My level is reading 2.2o, so my question is, Should I still set this up for the washout as 1.4o? My own answer is it should be set to 1.4o. But I would like some advice from those who have been here before. Also any other tips. Thank You. ----------------


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    Time: 06:34:35 AM PST US
    From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
    Subject: Throttle cable failure
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com> My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst on maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to be completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of the cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the nipple is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt. The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the engine is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when the throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than slide through the outer. Two questions arise: 1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of advisory advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I find it? 2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal friction? For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done about 300 hours with a 912UL. I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes - the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do hope that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my aircraft a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue material. David G-BZAM - UK 265


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    Time: 06:46:34 AM PST US
    From: Roger Sheridan <rogerjohnsheridan@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Awlgrip
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Roger Sheridan <rogerjohnsheridan@yahoo.co.uk> If anyone in the UK is interested in two gallons of unopened Awlgrip Final Prime at half price please contact me off list. Cheers, Roger.


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    Time: 11:33:38 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cable failure
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> David, Likewise, I changed all my fuel piping. The company issue is of very bad quality and permeates easily to create a fuel smell in the cockpit and eventual seepage. I eventually used marine fuel hosing. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:31 AM Subject: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com> > > My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst on > maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to > be > completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for > duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of > the > cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the > nipple > is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt. > > > The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the > engine > is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when > the > throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than slide > through the outer. > > > Two questions arise: > > > 1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of > advisory > advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I find > it? > > > 2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory > either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal > friction? > > > For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done about > 300 hours with a 912UL. > > > I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced > landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes - > the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do > hope > that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still > installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not > notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my > aircraft > a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue > material. > > > David > > > G-BZAM - UK 265 > > >


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    Time: 01:41:47 PM PST US
    From: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cable failure
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com> Hi David, I have just replaced a throttle cable which I damaged whilst servicing. It was a new one from Europa, and identical to the original which had been in service for five years in my XS 912s. It does not appear to be lined, but then it does not have have any undue internal friction and works well. I had to cut it to about three feet in length. It routes in an arked path from the throttle control box, over the top of the engine frame ( at either side of the elastic), and then straight into the carb. I know that this may not be a great deal of help, but then it could be. Cheers! Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com> > > My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst on > maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to > be > completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for > duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of > the > cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the > nipple > is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt. > > > The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the > engine > is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when > the > throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than slide > through the outer. > > > Two questions arise: > > > 1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of > advisory > advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I find > it? > > > 2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory > either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal > friction? > > > For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done about > 300 hours with a 912UL. > > > I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced > landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes - > the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do > hope > that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still > installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not > notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my > aircraft > a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue > material. > > > David > > > G-BZAM - UK 265 > > >


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    Time: 10:23:38 PM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle cable failure
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com> Hi David, I have just shortened both of mine, which are the originals (1994 ish), to give them a smoother route and fresh ends for clamping and I can assure you they have some sort of white plastic inner lining. Hope that helps, William Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" > <bryan@blackballclub.com> > > Hi David, > > I have just replaced a throttle cable which I damaged whilst servicing. It > was a new one from Europa, and identical to the original which had been in > service for five years in my XS 912s. > > It does not appear to be lined, but then it does not have have any undue > internal friction and works well. I had to cut it to about three feet in > length. It routes in an arked path from the throttle control box, over the > top of the engine frame ( at either side of the elastic), and then > straight > into the carb. > > I know that this may not be a great deal of help, but then it could be. > > Cheers! Bryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com> > To: "Europa Forum " <europa-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:31 PM > Subject: Europa-List: Throttle cable failure > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com> >> >> My aircraft has just suffered a throttle cable failure - luckily whilst >> on >> maintenance. I had dropped the throttle lever box to enable upholstery to >> be >> completed; after refitting the box, and exercising the throttle for >> duplicate checks, one cable broke. The break is where the inner core of >> the >> cable joins the nipple attaching the cable to the throttle lever; the >> nipple >> is perfectly free to pivot on its bolt. >> >> >> >> The cables have always been a little hard to move - at least when the >> engine >> is not running; because of this internal friction, it appears that when >> the >> throttle is opened the cable can bend down into the box, rather than >> slide >> through the outer. >> >> >> >> Two questions arise: >> >> >> >> 1 Am I right in thinking that there has been some sort of >> advisory >> advice about throttle cables from the factory - if so, where should I >> find >> it? >> >> >> >> 2 Are the throttle cables currently being issued by the factory >> either teflon or nylon lined, and therefore less prone to internal >> friction? >> >> >> >> For the record, my aircraft has been flying for 5 years and has done >> about >> 300 hours with a 912UL. >> >> >> >> I recently read an article in South Africa about Ron van Leer's forced >> landing due to fuel leakage through porous "old type" rubber fuel pipes - >> the cotton covered pipes issued by the factory in the early years. I do >> hope >> that no-one is still flying with this type of flexible fuel pipe still >> installed; if you are, you are heading for engine failure if you do not >> notice seepage before you lose your power. I did note seepage in my >> aircraft >> a year or so ago, and very quickly changed my pipes for the current issue >> material. >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> G-BZAM - UK 265 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > >




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