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1. 07:21 AM - Re: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
2. 07:21 AM - Re: South of Dallas area builder (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
3. 08:20 AM - Re: A P-51 Fly-by Story Retold (Tom Friedland)
4. 10:12 AM - Re: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days (Alan Burrows)
5. 10:30 AM - Re: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days (Jeff B)
6. 12:16 PM - Re: A P-51 Fly-by Story Retold (Thomas Scherer)
7. 02:28 PM - Re: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days (Garry)
8. 04:02 PM - Re: Alternator (rlborger)
9. 06:40 PM - Intercooler Source (Horizonspace@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Hi Bryan:
I will be there in Friday.
Do not Archive
Brian Skelly
Europa XS TriGear #A276
North Texas USA
You can see my build photos at:
www.europaowners.org/brians
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--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Eric and Steve:
You can visit two in the area if you like. I'm an hours drive south of Bob.
Do not Archive
Brian Skelly
Europa XS TriGear #A276
North Texas USA
You can see my build photos at:
www.europaowners.org/brians
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| Subject: | Re: A P-51 Fly-by Story Retold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com>
I wonder what Lea McDonald says about America today...
Tom
On 3/6/06, Steve Crimm <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> wrote:
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <
> steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>
> While off topic, we all can just imaging being on the tarmac and watching
> the air show.
>
> Steve
>
>
> > Below was sent by an Air Force friend. Don't know who
> > this P-51 veteran pilot was in the story, but the
> > article was written by a Canadian named Lea MacDonald
> > who recalled witnessing a P-51 takeoff when he was a
> > young 12 year old boy. The story is woven with
> > language that if you just close your eyes you can
> > imagine that you can hear the whine of that powerful
> > Merlin engine! Enjoy.
> >
> > By Lea McDonald ( at www.rense.com)
> >
> > It was noon on a Sunday as I recall, the day a Mustang
> > P-51 was to take to the air. They said it had flown in
> > during the night from some US airport, the pilot had
> > been tired. I marveled at the size of the plane
> > dwarfing the Pipers and Canucks tied down by her, it
> > was much larger than in the movies. She glistened in
> > the sun like a bulwark of security from days gone by.
> >
> > The pilot arrived by cab paid the driver then stepped
> > into the flight lounge. He was an older man, his wavy
> > hair was grey and tossed . . . looked like it might
> > have been combed, . . say, around the turn of the
> > century. His bomber jacket was checked, creased, and
> > worn, it smelled old and genuine. Old Glory was
> > prominently sewn to its shoulders. He projected a
> > quiet air of proficiency and pride devoid of
> > arrogance. He filed a quick flight plan to Montreal
> > (Expo-67, Air Show) then walked across the tarmac.
> > After taking several minutes to perform his
> > walk-around check the pilot returned to the flight
> > lounge to ask if anyone would be available to stand by
> > with fire extinguishers while he "flashed the old bird
> > up . . . just to be safe." Though only 12 at the time
> > I was allowed to stand by with an extinguisher after
> > brief instruction on its use -- "If you see a fire
> > point then pull this lever!" I later became a
> > firefighter, but that's another story.
> >
> > The air around the exhaust manifolds shimmered like a
> > mirror from fuel fumes as the huge prop started to
> > rotate. One manifold, then another, and yet another
> > barked -- I stepped back with the others. In moments
> > the Packard-built Merlin engine came to life with a
> > thunderous roar, blue flames knifed from her
> > manifolds. I looked at the others' faces, there was no
> > concern. I lowered the bell of my extinguisher. One of
> > the guys signaled to walk back to the lounge, we did.
> >
> > Several minutes later we could hear the pilot doing
> > his pre flight run-up. He'd taxied to the end of
> > runway 19, out of sight. All went quiet for several
> > seconds, we raced from the lounge to the second story
> > deck to see if we could catch a glimpse of the P-51 as
> > she started down the runway, we could not. There we
> > stood, eyes fixed to a spot half way down 19. Then a
> > roar ripped across the field, much louder than before,
> > like a furious hell spawn set loose---something mighty
> > this way was coming. "Listen to that thing!" Said the
> > controller. In seconds the Mustang burst into our line
> > of sight. Its tail was already off and it was moving
> > faster than anything I'd ever seen by that point on
> > 19. Two-thirds the way down 19 the Mustang was
> > airborne with her gear going up. The prop tips were
> > supersonic; we clasped our ears as the Mustang climbed
> > hellish fast into the circuit to be eaten up by the
> > dog-day haze.
> >
> > We stood for a few moments in stunned silence trying
> > to digest what we'd just seen. The radio controller
> > rushed by me to the radio. "Kingston radio calling
> > Mustang?" He looked back to us as he waited for an
> > acknowledgment. The radio crackled, "Kingston radio,
> > go ahead." "Roger Mustang. Kingston radio would like
> > to advise the circuit is clear for a low level pass."
> > I stood in shock because the controller had, more or
> > less, just asked the pilot to return for an impromptu
> > air show! The controller looked at us. "What?" He
> > asked. "I can't let that guy go without asking . . . I
> > couldn't forgive myself!" The radio crackled once
> > again "Kingston radio, do I have permission for a low
> > level pass, east to west, across the field?" "Roger
> > Mustang, the circuit is clear for an east to west
> > pass." "Roger, Kingston radio, we're coming out of
> > 3000 feet, stand by." We rushed back onto the
> > second-story deck, eyes fixed toward the eastern haze.
> > The sound was subtle at first, a high-pitched whine, a
> > muffled screech, a distant scream. Moments later the
> > P-51 burst through the haze . . . her airframe
> > straining against positive Gs and gravity, wing tips
> > spilling contrails of condensed air, prop-tips again
> > supersonic as the burnished bird blasted across the
> > eastern margin of the field shredding and tearing the
> > air.
> >
> > At about 400 Mph and 150 yards from where we stood she
> > passed with an old American pilot saluting .
> > .imagine . . . a salute. I felt like laughing, I felt
> > like crying, she glistened, she screamed, the building
> > shook, my heart pounded . . . then the old pilot
> > pulled her up . . . and rolled, and rolled, and rolled
> > out of sight into the broken clouds and indelibly into
> > my memory.
> >
> > I've never wanted to be an American more than on that
> > day. It was a time when many nations in the world
> > looked to America as their big brother, a steady and
> > even-handed beacon of security who navigated difficult
> > political water with grace and style; not unlike the
> > pilot who'd just flown into my memory. He was proud,
> > not arrogant, humble, not a braggart, old and honest
> > projecting an aura of America at its best. That
> > America will return one day, I know it will.
> >
> > Until that time, I'll just send off a story; call it a
> > reciprocal salute, to the old American pilot who wove
> > a memory for a young Canadian that's stayed a
> > lifetime.
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Sun n Fun. Meet-up days |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi Steve
It looks like I will not be able to make it over this year due to work
commitments, so my fly-in/ BBQ at my home in Spruce Creek will have to
wait until next year. Hope you all have fun and rest assured I will be
thinking about you grrrr.
Alan Burrows
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pitt
Sent: 07 March 2006 07:15
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt"
--> <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
Bryan
Just to advise that I will be there with William Mills for most of the
show although I do not know which days in particular (we are assisting
Andy and John with the Stand) and Peter Grant will be there for 7th to
9th and I expect will attend all days given his short visit span. By all
means lets see when are the most popular days and the consensus seems to
be 11.00am on each day will be the 'official' meeting time. Steve Pitt
----- Original Message -----
From: <Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com>
Sent: 07 March 2006 01:58
Subject: Europa-List: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Sun n Fun runs for a week, 4th to 10th April. Whilst I will be in
> Florida during that time I do not think that my family would
> appreciate me
spending every
> day at Lakeland, so it is likely that I will only be there for 2 or 3
days.
>
> It seems to be generally agreed that a daily 11am rendezvous at the
> Europa tent is acceptable, this still leaves me a less than fifty
> percent chance
of
> meeting up with others, because they could be there on a totally
> different
day.
> It would be nice I could narrow this down a bit. With that in mind I
wonder if
> some of the days are going to be less popular than others. Conversely,
> are there any days in that week when we are all likely to be there.
> Perhaps we
could
> even target a couple of days.
>
> With this in mind I wonder if I could solicit the advice of Florida
locals,
> and regular attenders. Could it be that there are some days when they
would
> advise us not to go, or some not to miss? If they could visit the
> event
for only
> one or two days, which ones would they choose?
>
> Cheers. Bryan Allsop
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
Mary and I will be there Sunday - Sunday. I was under the impression
that we would meet everyday at 11 am. Has anyone heard anything about a
Europa specific parking area? I spoke with John Wheeler and he wasn't
sure. He also expressed a desire to see "Baby Blue", so an area with
all Europas would be great. At any rate, see you, who are attending,
there...
Jeff - N55XS
149 hours...
Steven Pitt wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
>
> Bryan
> Just to advise that I will be there with William Mills for most of the show
> although I do not know which days in particular (we are assisting Andy and
> John with the Stand) and Peter Grant will be there for 7th to 9th and I
> expect will attend all days given his short visit span.
> By all means lets see when are the most popular days and the consensus seems
> to be 11.00am on each day will be the 'official' meeting time.
> Steve Pitt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: 07 March 2006 01:58
> Subject: Europa-List: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days
>
>
>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com
>>
>>Hi Folks,
>>
>>Sun n Fun runs for a week, 4th to 10th April. Whilst I will be in Florida
>>during that time I do not think that my family would appreciate me
>
> spending every
>
>>day at Lakeland, so it is likely that I will only be there for 2 or 3
>
> days.
>
>>It seems to be generally agreed that a daily 11am rendezvous at the Europa
>>tent is acceptable, this still leaves me a less than fifty percent chance
>
> of
>
>>meeting up with others, because they could be there on a totally different
>
> day.
>
>>It would be nice I could narrow this down a bit. With that in mind I
>
> wonder if
>
>>some of the days are going to be less popular than others. Conversely, are
>>there any days in that week when we are all likely to be there. Perhaps we
>
> could
>
>>even target a couple of days.
>>
>>With this in mind I wonder if I could solicit the advice of Florida
>
> locals,
>
>>and regular attenders. Could it be that there are some days when they
>
> would
>
>>advise us not to go, or some not to miss? If they could visit the event
>
> for only
>
>>one or two days, which ones would they choose?
>>
>>Cheers. Bryan Allsop
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A P-51 Fly-by Story Retold |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Thomas Scherer" <thomas@scherer.com>
You know it ... "Canada is the better America".
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But apart from the Nation mentionned in the P-51 story - here is another off-topic,
give-you-the-goosebumps-story:
This was told by the son of Karl Hich, Captain of the LZ127 - the most successful
of all German Zeppelins. The Airship (yes ... ship at 236 Meters length) has
circumnavigated the world - just imagine: 101 hours from Germany to Tokyo nontsop
- and travelled to the Arctic:
On a cruise from Europe to Southern America the ship halted at 150 Meter altitude
above the South Atlantic and the Captain stopped the Maybach engines. The sun
was about to set.
The windows were opened and Arthur Rubinstein played Beethoven's moonlight serenade
on the aluminum grandpiano aboard.
Who would have loved to be there ?
be well,
<Thomas, N81EU>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: A P-51 Fly-by Story Retold
> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 08:17:10 -0800
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com>
>
> I wonder what Lea McDonald says about America today...
>
> Tom
>
>
> On 3/6/06, Steve Crimm <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> wrote:
> >
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <
> > steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
> >
> > While off topic, we all can just imaging being on the tarmac and watching
> > the air show.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > > Below was sent by an Air Force friend. Don't know who
> > > this P-51 veteran pilot was in the story, but the
> > > article was written by a Canadian named Lea MacDonald
> > > who recalled witnessing a P-51 takeoff when he was a
> > > young 12 year old boy. The story is woven with
> > > language that if you just close your eyes you can
> > > imagine that you can hear the whine of that powerful
> > > Merlin engine! Enjoy.
> > >
> > > By Lea McDonald ( at www.rense.com)
> > >
> > > It was noon on a Sunday as I recall, the day a Mustang
> > > P-51 was to take to the air. They said it had flown in
> > > during the night from some US airport, the pilot had
> > > been tired. I marveled at the size of the plane
> > > dwarfing the Pipers and Canucks tied down by her, it
> > > was much larger than in the movies. She glistened in
> > > the sun like a bulwark of security from days gone by.
> > >
> > > The pilot arrived by cab paid the driver then stepped
> > > into the flight lounge. He was an older man, his wavy
> > > hair was grey and tossed . . . looked like it might
> > > have been combed, . . say, around the turn of the
> > > century. His bomber jacket was checked, creased, and
> > > worn, it smelled old and genuine. Old Glory was
> > > prominently sewn to its shoulders. He projected a
> > > quiet air of proficiency and pride devoid of
> > > arrogance. He filed a quick flight plan to Montreal
> > > (Expo-67, Air Show) then walked across the tarmac.
> > > After taking several minutes to perform his
> > > walk-around check the pilot returned to the flight
> > > lounge to ask if anyone would be available to stand by
> > > with fire extinguishers while he "flashed the old bird
> > > up . . . just to be safe." Though only 12 at the time
> > > I was allowed to stand by with an extinguisher after
> > > brief instruction on its use -- "If you see a fire
> > > point then pull this lever!" I later became a
> > > firefighter, but that's another story.
> > >
> > > The air around the exhaust manifolds shimmered like a
> > > mirror from fuel fumes as the huge prop started to
> > > rotate. One manifold, then another, and yet another
> > > barked -- I stepped back with the others. In moments
> > > the Packard-built Merlin engine came to life with a
> > > thunderous roar, blue flames knifed from her
> > > manifolds. I looked at the others' faces, there was no
> > > concern. I lowered the bell of my extinguisher. One of
> > > the guys signaled to walk back to the lounge, we did.
> > >
> > > Several minutes later we could hear the pilot doing
> > > his pre flight run-up. He'd taxied to the end of
> > > runway 19, out of sight. All went quiet for several
> > > seconds, we raced from the lounge to the second story
> > > deck to see if we could catch a glimpse of the P-51 as
> > > she started down the runway, we could not. There we
> > > stood, eyes fixed to a spot half way down 19. Then a
> > > roar ripped across the field, much louder than before,
> > > like a furious hell spawn set loose---something mighty
> > > this way was coming. "Listen to that thing!" Said the
> > > controller. In seconds the Mustang burst into our line
> > > of sight. Its tail was already off and it was moving
> > > faster than anything I'd ever seen by that point on
> > > 19. Two-thirds the way down 19 the Mustang was
> > > airborne with her gear going up. The prop tips were
> > > supersonic; we clasped our ears as the Mustang climbed
> > > hellish fast into the circuit to be eaten up by the
> > > dog-day haze.
> > >
> > > We stood for a few moments in stunned silence trying
> > > to digest what we'd just seen. The radio controller
> > > rushed by me to the radio. "Kingston radio calling
> > > Mustang?" He looked back to us as he waited for an
> > > acknowledgment. The radio crackled, "Kingston radio,
> > > go ahead." "Roger Mustang. Kingston radio would like
> > > to advise the circuit is clear for a low level pass."
> > > I stood in shock because the controller had, more or
> > > less, just asked the pilot to return for an impromptu
> > > air show! The controller looked at us. "What?" He
> > > asked. "I can't let that guy go without asking . . . I
> > > couldn't forgive myself!" The radio crackled once
> > > again "Kingston radio, do I have permission for a low
> > > level pass, east to west, across the field?" "Roger
> > > Mustang, the circuit is clear for an east to west
> > > pass." "Roger, Kingston radio, we're coming out of
> > > 3000 feet, stand by." We rushed back onto the
> > > second-story deck, eyes fixed toward the eastern haze.
> > > The sound was subtle at first, a high-pitched whine, a
> > > muffled screech, a distant scream. Moments later the
> > > P-51 burst through the haze . . . her airframe
> > > straining against positive Gs and gravity, wing tips
> > > spilling contrails of condensed air, prop-tips again
> > > supersonic as the burnished bird blasted across the
> > > eastern margin of the field shredding and tearing the
> > > air.
> > >
> > > At about 400 Mph and 150 yards from where we stood she
> > > passed with an old American pilot saluting .
> > > .imagine . . . a salute. I felt like laughing, I felt
> > > like crying, she glistened, she screamed, the building
> > > shook, my heart pounded . . . then the old pilot
> > > pulled her up . . . and rolled, and rolled, and rolled
> > > out of sight into the broken clouds and indelibly into
> > > my memory.
> > >
> > > I've never wanted to be an American more than on that
> > > day. It was a time when many nations in the world
> > > looked to America as their big brother, a steady and
> > > even-handed beacon of security who navigated difficult
> > > political water with grace and style; not unlike the
> > > pilot who'd just flown into my memory. He was proud,
> > > not arrogant, humble, not a braggart, old and honest
> > > projecting an aura of America at its best. That
> > > America will return one day, I know it will.
> > >
> > > Until that time, I'll just send off a story; call it a
> > > reciprocal salute, to the old American pilot who wove
> > > a memory for a young Canadian that's stayed a
> > > lifetime.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
As a local (Tampa Florida), and a long time attendee of Sun N' Fun, it has
been my experience that the first 4 days of the event are the most
worthwhile. Towards the end of the show, many of the fly-in planes have
departed.......particularly the warbirds. Also the vendors become exhausted
after 4 or 5 days and are less likely to be friendly and/or helpful. On the
other hand, the early days are also more crowded and it's more difficult to
get access to the vendors.
A little trick from us locals.............if you go the day BEFORE Sun N'
Fun officially begins, you'll get in for free, and you'll see all of the
planes on display as well as all the vendor booths, since everyone is
completely "set up" before the event starts. The only thing you'll miss is
the air show.
Because everyone's schedule is different I think it's best if we simply say
we'll meet every day at 11:00 at the Europa booth.
Garry Stout
914-tri, 450 hours.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Sun n Fun. Meet-up days
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Bbryanallsop@wmconnect.com
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Sun n Fun runs for a week, 4th to 10th April. Whilst I will be in Florida
> during that time I do not think that my family would appreciate me
> spending every
> day at Lakeland, so it is likely that I will only be there for 2 or 3
> days.
>
> It seems to be generally agreed that a daily 11am rendezvous at the Europa
> tent is acceptable, this still leaves me a less than fifty percent chance
> of
> meeting up with others, because they could be there on a totally different
> day.
> It would be nice I could narrow this down a bit. With that in mind I
> wonder if
> some of the days are going to be less popular than others. Conversely, are
> there any days in that week when we are all likely to be there. Perhaps we
> could
> even target a couple of days.
>
> With this in mind I wonder if I could solicit the advice of Florida
> locals,
> and regular attenders. Could it be that there are some days when they
> would
> advise us not to go, or some not to miss? If they could visit the event
> for only
> one or two days, which ones would they choose?
>
> Cheers. Bryan Allsop
>
>
>
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Cc: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
--> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
Paul,
I purchased the alternator and supporting material through
FlightCrafters ( http://www.flightcrafters.com/ ) for something on
the order of $700.
Since the Grand Rapids Technologies EFIS supports four CHTs and four
EGTs, and they provide the hardware for all those sensors, there was
no reason not to use all of them. CHT input uses the two sensors
provided by ROTAX and two ring-sensors provided by GRT that appear to
go on between the spark plug and cylinder head. The four EGT sensors
are provided by GRT and they go in the openings provided by ROTAX in
the exhaust manifold.
Since I haven't mounted the engine yet (not too much longer, I hope),
I can't say for sure where the cooling air will strike the sensor. I
do plan to try to install some baffling which will attempt contain
most of the cooling airflow across the cylinder fins and not let it
get to the cylinder heads. We'll have to see how that work goes.
If it does work, the cylinder heads will only be liquid cooled and
it may be of some importance to have four CHT sensors.
Great plans and all that...
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in,
Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar
in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Working in - 24
Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel
System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster
arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. Preparing ROTAX
914 for installation.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Horizonspace@aol.com
After scouring the net for a source for a suitable intercooler for our Rotax
914, I stumbled on the company that made the unit used in the Europa USA
kit. As requested by Bob Borger, I am posting the following information for
those of you interested in purchasing one, here's the info:
Model: A225066050EAV01
Manufacturer: Bell Intercoolers, Inc.
Address: 1421 Carver Lane, Irving, TX 75061
URL: _www.bellintercoolers.com_ (http://www.bellintercoolers.com)
Contact: Gerhard Schruf
E-mail: _gms@bellintercoolers.com_ (mailto:gms@bellintercoolers.com)
Telephone: 972-513-1674
The list price was 299 USD as of 11/05
Please note that the unit does not come with hoses, clamps or installation
instructions. Bob Borger has a picture of the kit on his website and may post
the instructions there soon. We bought hoses and clamps from turbohoses.com
and cut to fit but you should be able to use auto hoses (as delivered with
the Europa kits) for much cheaper.
Tam Pho
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