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1. 04:31 AM - Intercooler (Robert Borger)
2. 04:47 AM - Re: Intercooler (Gilles Thesee)
3. 06:08 AM - Re: 914 Intercooler (Robert Borger)
4. 06:13 AM - FW: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS (R.C.Harrison)
5. 06:52 AM - Re: FW: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS (Jeremy Davey)
6. 07:46 AM - AW: Intercooler (Ing. Gottfried Komaier)
7. 08:22 AM - Re: intercooler (Robert Borger)
8. 08:52 AM - Re: Intercooler (Garry)
9. 09:20 AM - Re: FW: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS (R.C.Harrison)
10. 10:50 AM - Re: Re: intercooler (Horizonspace@aol.com)
11. 11:12 AM - Re: Intercooler (Horizonspace@aol.com)
12. 11:12 AM - AW: Intercooler (Ing. Gottfried Komaier)
13. 11:24 AM - AW: Re: intercooler (Ing. Gottfried Komaier)
14. 12:56 PM - Fly In (Jim Butcher)
15. 01:01 PM - Air Tour (Jim Butcher)
16. 01:29 PM - Bell Intercoolers Contact info (Robert Borger)
17. 02:27 PM - Re: Bell Intercoolers Contact info (Gary R Roberts)
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Cc: rlborger@mac.com
--> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
Gottfried,
With your permission, I will try to contact Mr. Schruf at Bell Intercooler on your
behalf. Let me know if you so desire.
If there is anyone else out there in Rotax 914 Land who is interested in an intercooler
for their machine, please let me know. Perhaps we can work out a deal
with multiple orders.
Please be sure to include my personal e-mail in the address as I only receive the
summary digest, not the running e-mails.
For those interested, I will post more detailed pics of the intercooler kit on
my builder web site this weekend. And will scan the intercooler instructions and
post them as well.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
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CC: rlborger@mac.com
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
>
>For those interested, I will post more detailed pics of the intercooler kit on
my builder web site this weekend. And will scan the intercooler instructions
and post them as well.
>
>
>
Bob, Gottfried and all,
We installed a Bell intercooler in our Rotax 914 powered MCR four seater
project.
Gerhard Schruf proved very helpful and provided tailored caculations.
The model is not the same as that shown on Bob's website.
We put emphasis on a clean inlet and outlet for cooling air, and are
achieving 60-70 % efficiency. The airplane has been flying for a year,
to our satisfaction. The performance is about the same as a Europa.
Gottfried has some additional info.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Intercooler |
Cc: rlborger@mac.com
--> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
Ivor,
I will be posting more pics and scans of the documentation on my build web site
this weekend.
For those who want an intercooler, I would also provide copies of my documentation
and a parts list so they could make up a package similar to mine.
I guess I could also scrounge up the parts and provide a complete kit if someone
wished.
First, I will need to contact Bell Intercooler and see what the intercooler will
cost, when it would be available, etc.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
On Thursday, March 09, 2006, at 05:35AM, ivor.phillips <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
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| Subject: | FW: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has |
been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! All
I sincerely apologise to the group a) if this has gone before since I
have been out of the country but was alerted by the Save North Weald
Group and managed to get a letter sent to my MP from Portugal.
b) all group members out
of the UK who the news doesn't directly apply to (Notwithstanding any
loud noises from abroad would probably help!)
Somehow we have to box this "two Jags" Prescott up and post him to the
Polar Regions, he is doing untold damage to our countryside and his
edict will decimate General Aviation in the UK.
Shoulders to the wheels please chaps..... It ay be after the date but
his sneaky way needs sneaky efforts albeit late.
Regards
Bob Harrison.
-----Original Message-----
From: Josephine white [mailto:josephine.white1@btinternet.com]
Sent: 08 March 2006 23:48
Subject: Fw: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been
sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott for the damn bureaucrats to
follow like sheep ..........PLEASE HELP countermand this move and SAVE
BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
----- Original Message -----
From: Stan Parr
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: Fw: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been
sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
>> FROM:
>> Dave Calderwood : Editor-in-Chief, LOOP newspaper : www.loop.aero
>> 15 February 2006
>>
>> WE NEED YOUR HELP TO SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
>>
>> This is not a false alarm. This is the real thing.
>>
>> A new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been sneaked
into planning guidelines by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister -
John Prescott's dept.
>>
>> If this goes ahead unchallenged, then ANY airfield with a building on
it could be sold for development as a housing estate. Local councils,
businesses and
>> individuals would be powerless to object. There would be no need for
large scale planning inquiries such as that happening over North Weald
right now.
>> Developers could just go ahead - and they will.
>> We could lose many of Britain's airfields within ten years - the
pressure for land for new housing is so great that these prime sites
would be snapped up.
>>
>> WE HAVE UNTIL 27 FEBRUARY 2006 TO ACT! DON'T DELAY!
>>
>> The proposed change was sneaked in as a change within an Annex. It
wasn't even part of the full consultation document.
>>
>> Was it deliberately hidden like this, or did someone forget to point
it out? We don't know but the change was only spotted last week - too
late for
>> inclusion in the latest issue of LOOP newspaper.
>>
>> Hence this email - it's the only way we can mobilise pilot and public
opinion and register objections to the change before the 27 February
deadline. We have >> consulted with the General Aviation industry and we
have their full support.
>>
>> Indeed, the whole of the GA industry, from flying clubs to engineers
to pilot shops and airfield managers is also doing its bit.
>>
>> WRITE TO YOUR MP!
>>
>> A letter by post is the best form of communication. It's a physical
object which your MP cannot ignore. Imagine MPs standing up in
Parliament waving
>> handfuls of letters from constituents demanding that the Deputy Prime
Minister explain his dept's underhand methods!
>>
>> Emails, phone calls, face-to-face meetings all have their place too.
We have to let the Government know the consequences of their actions,
whatever
>> it takes.
>>
>> HERE IS A SAMPLE OF THE KIND OF LETTER YOU COULD SEND TO YOUR MP:
>>
>> Dear Sir
>>
>> I would like to make you aware of a proposed change to planning
guidelines by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister which could have a
devastating
>> effect on this country's aviation industry.
>>
>> Planning Policy Statement 3 (PPS 3) has been developed to progress
the Government's agenda to provide a national policy framework for
housing.
>> It says previously developed 'Brownfield' land sites should be
considered for housing development.
>>
>> The existing PPG 3 section defines 'Previously Developed' land with
two example exclusions, hospital grounds and an airfield.
>>
>> In the revised PPS 3, the definition has been revised and the
airfield exclusion has been omitted.
>>
>> My objections are two-fold:
>>
>> First, this would almost certainly lead to airfields being closed for
redevelopment. General Aviation is a big and valuable industry,
supporting
>> many jobs and essential services as well as providing recreational
facilities for private pilots, of which I am one.
>>
>> Second, most of these airfields are in rural areas with insufficient
infrastructure to support such huge housing developments. They would
change
>> the character of much of rural Britain.
>>
>> Finally, I also object to the sneaky way this change has been
introduced - slipped in an Annex which would not normally be read by the
parties
>> involved in the consultation process. It has come to light with less
than two weeks left of the consultation process - which ends on Monday,
27 February.
>>
>> I would be grateful if you could voice our dissatisfaction with this
proposal.
>>
>> More information on this can be found at www.loop.aero
>>
>> Yours faithfully
>>
>> <------------------ cut -------------------->
>>
>>
>>
>> PLEASE WRITE TODAY TO YOUR MP!
>>
>> Don't delay. Tell your flying friends about this too - and if you
live near an airfield you might want to let your local councillors know
that they might have a huge >> new housing estate on their doorstep
within a few years.
>>
>> Find out the contact details for your MP at:
www.locata.co.uk/commons/
>>
>> Copy the letter to:
>> Office of the Deputy Prime Minister
>> Planning Policies Division (2)
>> Zone 4/J5
>> Eland House
>> Bressenden Place
>> London SW1E 5DU
>> email: pps3consultation@odpm.gsi.gov.uk
>>
>> Background material and references to the planning documents are
available on LOOP's website: www.loop.aero
>>
>> Thank you for your attention.
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| Subject: | FW: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites |
has been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
Bob,
This one has already gone out on:
1) PFA CAN
2) This Forum
3) The RV equivalent of this Forum
:-)
Things have moved on somewhat, too - we are now told that this change was a
clerical omission, but no-one is resting on their laurels until a commitment
to fix the 'clerical error' is received!
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
PFA EC Member
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1430 build hours to date, build currently stalled due to house moves and
lack of workshop
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R.C.Harrison
Sent: 09 March 2006 14:13
Subject: Europa-List: FW: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites
has been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S
AIRFIELDS
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
--> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! All
I sincerely apologise to the group a) if this has gone before since I have
been out of the country but was alerted by the Save North Weald Group and
managed to get a letter sent to my MP from Portugal.
b) all group members out
of the UK who the news doesn't directly apply to (Notwithstanding any loud
noises from abroad would probably help!) Somehow we have to box this "two
Jags" Prescott up and post him to the Polar Regions, he is doing untold
damage to our countryside and his edict will decimate General Aviation in
the UK.
Shoulders to the wheels please chaps..... It ay be after the date but his
sneaky way needs sneaky efforts albeit late.
Regards
Bob Harrison.
-----Original Message-----
From: Josephine white [mailto:josephine.white1@btinternet.com]
Sent: 08 March 2006 23:48
Subject: Fw: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been
sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott for the damn bureaucrats to
follow like sheep ..........PLEASE HELP countermand this move and SAVE
BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
----- Original Message -----
From: Stan Parr
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:44 PM
Subject: Fw: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been
sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
>> FROM:
>> Dave Calderwood : Editor-in-Chief, LOOP newspaper : www.loop.aero
>> 15 February 2006
>>
>> WE NEED YOUR HELP TO SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
>>
>> This is not a false alarm. This is the real thing.
>>
>> A new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites has been sneaked
into planning guidelines by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister -
John Prescott's dept.
>>
>> If this goes ahead unchallenged, then ANY airfield with a building on
it could be sold for development as a housing estate. Local councils,
businesses and
>> individuals would be powerless to object. There would be no need for
large scale planning inquiries such as that happening over North Weald
right now.
>> Developers could just go ahead - and they will.
>> We could lose many of Britain's airfields within ten years - the
pressure for land for new housing is so great that these prime sites
would be snapped up.
>>
>> WE HAVE UNTIL 27 FEBRUARY 2006 TO ACT! DON'T DELAY!
>>
>> The proposed change was sneaked in as a change within an Annex. It
wasn't even part of the full consultation document.
>>
>> Was it deliberately hidden like this, or did someone forget to point
it out? We don't know but the change was only spotted last week - too
late for
>> inclusion in the latest issue of LOOP newspaper.
>>
>> Hence this email - it's the only way we can mobilise pilot and public
opinion and register objections to the change before the 27 February
deadline. We have >> consulted with the General Aviation industry and we
have their full support.
>>
>> Indeed, the whole of the GA industry, from flying clubs to engineers
to pilot shops and airfield managers is also doing its bit.
>>
>> WRITE TO YOUR MP!
>>
>> A letter by post is the best form of communication. It's a physical
object which your MP cannot ignore. Imagine MPs standing up in
Parliament waving
>> handfuls of letters from constituents demanding that the Deputy Prime
Minister explain his dept's underhand methods!
>>
>> Emails, phone calls, face-to-face meetings all have their place too.
We have to let the Government know the consequences of their actions,
whatever
>> it takes.
>>
>> HERE IS A SAMPLE OF THE KIND OF LETTER YOU COULD SEND TO YOUR MP:
>>
>> Dear Sir
>>
>> I would like to make you aware of a proposed change to planning
guidelines by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister which could have a
devastating
>> effect on this country's aviation industry.
>>
>> Planning Policy Statement 3 (PPS 3) has been developed to progress
the Government's agenda to provide a national policy framework for
housing.
>> It says previously developed 'Brownfield' land sites should be
considered for housing development.
>>
>> The existing PPG 3 section defines 'Previously Developed' land with
two example exclusions, hospital grounds and an airfield.
>>
>> In the revised PPS 3, the definition has been revised and the
airfield exclusion has been omitted.
>>
>> My objections are two-fold:
>>
>> First, this would almost certainly lead to airfields being closed for
redevelopment. General Aviation is a big and valuable industry,
supporting
>> many jobs and essential services as well as providing recreational
facilities for private pilots, of which I am one.
>>
>> Second, most of these airfields are in rural areas with insufficient
infrastructure to support such huge housing developments. They would
change
>> the character of much of rural Britain.
>>
>> Finally, I also object to the sneaky way this change has been
introduced - slipped in an Annex which would not normally be read by the
parties
>> involved in the consultation process. It has come to light with less
than two weeks left of the consultation process - which ends on Monday,
27 February.
>>
>> I would be grateful if you could voice our dissatisfaction with this
proposal.
>>
>> More information on this can be found at www.loop.aero
>>
>> Yours faithfully
>>
>> <------------------ cut -------------------->
>>
>>
>>
>> PLEASE WRITE TODAY TO YOUR MP!
>>
>> Don't delay. Tell your flying friends about this too - and if you
live near an airfield you might want to let your local councillors know
that they might have a huge >> new housing estate on their doorstep
within a few years.
>>
>> Find out the contact details for your MP at:
www.locata.co.uk/commons/
>>
>> Copy the letter to:
>> Office of the Deputy Prime Minister
>> Planning Policies Division (2)
>> Zone 4/J5
>> Eland House
>> Bressenden Place
>> London SW1E 5DU
>> email: pps3consultation@odpm.gsi.gov.uk
>>
>> Background material and references to the planning documents are
available on LOOP's website: www.loop.aero
>>
>> Thank you for your attention.
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Cc: "'Robert Borger'" <rlborger@mac.com>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ing. Gottfried Komaier" <gottfried.komaier@gmx.net>
Bob, Gilles and all,
sounds great this idea. I am very interested in a Bell Intercooler. My
project is not an Europa, nor a MCR,(it's a modified HB207 ALFA, as you may
see on page 26 in the Spruce Catalog). The intercooler is the same, only the
connections may vary.
Regards,
Gottfried Komaier
Vienna, Austria
-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Gilles Thesee
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. Mrz 2006 13:46
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Cc: rlborger@mac.com
Betreff: Re: Europa-List: Intercooler
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee
--> <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
>
>For those interested, I will post more detailed pics of the intercooler kit
on my builder web site this weekend. And will scan the intercooler
instructions and post them as well.
>
>
>
Bob, Gottfried and all,
We installed a Bell intercooler in our Rotax 914 powered MCR four seater
project.
Gerhard Schruf proved very helpful and provided tailored caculations.
The model is not the same as that shown on Bob's website.
We put emphasis on a clean inlet and outlet for cooling air, and are
achieving 60-70 % efficiency. The airplane has been flying for a year, to
our satisfaction. The performance is about the same as a Europa.
Gottfried has some additional info.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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Cc: rlborger@mac.com
--> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
Jerry,
Consider yourself included.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
On Thursday, March 09, 2006, at 07:44AM, Jerry Rehn <rehn@rockisland.com> wrote:
>Bob please include me in your list of interested. Thanks
>
>Regards
>Jerry XS914
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
What are the benefits of the intercooler? What do you get in return for
your money, labor and weight? Why didn't Rotax design the engine with an
intercooler?
Garry Stout
914 Trigear.....450 hours flying
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borger" <rlborger@mac.com>
Cc: <rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Intercooler
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
>
> Gottfried,
>
> With your permission, I will try to contact Mr. Schruf at Bell Intercooler
> on your behalf. Let me know if you so desire.
>
> If there is anyone else out there in Rotax 914 Land who is interested in
> an intercooler for their machine, please let me know. Perhaps we can work
> out a deal with multiple orders.
>
> Please be sure to include my personal e-mail in the address as I only
> receive the summary digest, not the running e-mails.
>
> For those interested, I will post more detailed pics of the intercooler
> kit on my builder web site this weekend. And will scan the intercooler
> instructions and post them as well.
>
> Good building and great flying,
> Bob Borger
>
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: new definition of airfields as 'Brownfield' sites |
has been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott - SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
So now it has another airing..... I did apologise if it was doubled up.
Robt.C.Harrison
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Davey
Sent: 09 March 2006 14:50
Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: new definition of airfields as
'Brownfield' sites has been sneaked into planning guidelines by Prescott
- SAVE BRITAIN'S AIRFIELDS
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
<europaflyer_3@msn.com>
Bob,
This one has already gone out on:
1) PFA CAN
2) This Forum
3) The RV equivalent of this Forum
:-)
Things have moved on somewhat, too - we are now told that this change
was a
clerical omission, but no-one is resting on their laurels until a
commitment
to fix the 'clerical error' is received!
Regards,
Jeremy
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Horizonspace@aol.com
Here's another source for a 914 intercooler (not Europa) for those of you
working on other 914 applications:
_http://www.creas-it.it/asi_uk/accessori.htm_
(http://www.creas-it.it/asi_uk/accessori.htm)
Tam Pho
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Horizonspace@aol.com
Garry,
An intercooler enhances the performance of the turbocharger. The turbo pump
compresses the air thus heating it up. An intercooler cools the air back
down to deliver cooler/denser air to the carburetors. More boost, more air,
more HP. Most all auto turbo applications come with intercoolers. Rotax
recommend installing an intercooler and provided specific performance specs in
the
installation manual. Integration of an intercooler is much like that of the
radiator and the oil cooler in that it is installation specific. Except in
an intercooler installation, flow and pressure drop is even more critical.
Rotax could not provide a one size fit all accessory.
Hope this helps,
Tam Pho
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ing. Gottfried Komaier" <gottfried.komaier@gmx.net>
Garry,
Intercooler means the same as Turbocharger: Performance
The Intercooler - when well designed and mounted brings you an increase in
power of:
Take Off: +7% = 123 HP
Max. Continuous Power: +6% = 106 HP
You can see in the Rotax Owner Manual up to which altitude you have the
power.
Rotax gives you the option for modification with an Intercooler -(acc. the
manual)- but all the work around the Intercooler (design, mounting,..) is
your job - You have an Experimental aircraft. Not all guys want an
Intercooler. Price is on of the reasons why Rotax don't have an Intercooler
on his list.
Gottfried
-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Garry
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. Mrz 2006 17:50
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Re: Europa-List: Intercooler
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
What are the benefits of the intercooler? What do you get in return for
your money, labor and weight? Why didn't Rotax design the engine with an
intercooler?
Garry Stout
914 Trigear.....450 hours flying
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Borger" <rlborger@mac.com>
Cc: <rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Intercooler
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
>
> Gottfried,
>
> With your permission, I will try to contact Mr. Schruf at Bell Intercooler
> on your behalf. Let me know if you so desire.
>
> If there is anyone else out there in Rotax 914 Land who is interested in
> an intercooler for their machine, please let me know. Perhaps we can work
> out a deal with multiple orders.
>
> Please be sure to include my personal e-mail in the address as I only
> receive the summary digest, not the running e-mails.
>
> For those interested, I will post more detailed pics of the intercooler
> kit on my builder web site this weekend. And will scan the intercooler
> instructions and post them as well.
>
> Good building and great flying,
> Bob Borger
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ing. Gottfried Komaier" <gottfried.komaier@gmx.net>
Tam,
this intercooler works with a great pressure drop. In this intercooler, the
inlet and outlet are on the same side, that means the air have to go 180 on
the other side. As I know, this design is for a helicopter where it was not
possible to design the intercooler more efficient. But it's better than
nothing!
Gottfried
-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von
Horizonspace@aol.com
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. Mrz 2006 19:43
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Re: Europa-List: Re: intercooler
--> Europa-List message posted by: Horizonspace@aol.com
Here's another source for a 914 intercooler (not Europa) for those of you
working on other 914 applications:
_http://www.creas-it.it/asi_uk/accessori.htm_
(http://www.creas-it.it/asi_uk/accessori.htm)
Tam Pho
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Bryan,
Please add our planned Fly-In to the list.
Thanks
Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW
EUROPA AIRCRAFT FLY-IN
What: We invite anyone interested in Europa Aircraft to join us for a Europa Fly-In
on Saturday, Aug 26, 2006.
Where: The fly-in will be at Almena Airport (2C5 - Paw Paw, MI - 12 miles SW of
Kalamazoo, MI). Coordinates 42deg 15.17'N, 085 deg 51.10'W. Almena is a Day VFR
2100 ft grass strip and home of N241BW.
Food: Barbecue lunch is planned for Saturday. Other meals available at adjacent
golf course or in town.
Activities: Experience and talk Europas!! Other possibilities include:
Tour Kalamazoo Aviation History Museum (AirZoo)
Winery Tours
Blueberry Capital of US - eat fresh blueberries
Maybe rides (AcroSport, Stearman and Bell 47 based on field)
Accommodations: If you'd like to arrive on Friday and/or stay through Sunday, you
may pitch a tent at the airport. Showers are available at adjacent golf course.
Motels are nearby (5 mi).
Weather: Average High 82, Average Low 59
More Information: Jim & Heather Butcher, europa@triton.net,
269-375-5923, Cell - 269-599-0122
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Bryan,
Another item for the event list is the Michigan Air Tour. While not a Europa specific event it promises to be a way cool flying experience. Basically over a period of 3 days, planes and crews will visit nine airfields in Michigan's Upper Peninsula. This is flying over mostly wild, forested land with breathtaking scenery and clear, unlimited visibility. Each day you fly at your own pace but meet up at each airfield for food and celebration. Everyone stays in the same hotel each evening. We're planning to fly in it and think it would be wonderful to have more Europas! For more information, go to www.miaviation.org.
While we doubt we'll ever be able to do Dave Watt's France tour, this should be
close!
Jim & Heather Butcher A185, N241BW
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| Subject: | Bell Intercoolers Contact info |
Cc: rlborger@mac.com
--> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
Gottfried, Jerry
I have been in contact with Gerhard Schruf at Bell Intercoolers ( http://www.bellintercoolers.com/ ). They have relocated from the Dallas area to north of San Antonio, Texas. Gottfried, if your attempt to contact them was during the relocation process, that would explain why they missed you. They seem quite responsive.
They have the Europa intercooler for the Rotax 914, it is a regular part, complete
with part number. The cost is $299 (USD) and delivery time is 5 days.
You can contact Gerhard at: gms@bellintercoolers.com or by phone at 830-229-5330
As I said earlier, I will post more detailed pics of my intercooler kit along with scans of the installation instructions and a parts list this weekend. http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
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Cc: rlborger@mac.com
| Subject: | Re: Bell Intercoolers Contact info |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gary R Roberts <grroberts3@juno.com>
All,
I also have been hunting intercoolers and in contact with
http://www.bellintercoolers.com/ and Gerhard Schruf. Responsive company
so far. Understandably, they seemed to want to make sure they weren't
cutting Europa Aviation out of business. Will sell to individuals: P/N
A225066050EAV01 @ $299.00.
Gary R. Roberts
A187
Tucson, AZ
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:27:43 -0800 Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
>
> Gottfried, Jerry
>
> I have been in contact with Gerhard Schruf at Bell Intercoolers (
> http://www.bellintercoolers.com/ ). They have relocated from the
> Dallas area to north of San Antonio, Texas. Gottfried, if your
> attempt to contact them was during the relocation process, that
> would explain why they missed you. They seem quite responsive.
>
> They have the Europa intercooler for the Rotax 914, it is a regular
> part, complete with part number. The cost is $299 (USD) and
> delivery time is 5 days.
>
> You can contact Gerhard at: gms@bellintercoolers.com or by phone at
> 830-229-5330
>
> As I said earlier, I will post more detailed pics of my intercooler
> kit along with scans of the installation instructions and a parts
> list this weekend. http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
>
> Good building and great flying,
> Bob Borger
>
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