---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/15/06: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - Re: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? (BEBERRY@aol.com) 2. 03:04 PM - Re: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? (NevEyre@aol.com) 3. 03:14 PM - Re: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? (D Wysong) 4. 03:23 PM - Re: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? (Jeremy Davey) 5. 03:50 PM - Re: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? (rmrrick) 6. 04:11 PM - Re: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? (Rman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:33 AM PST US From: BEBERRY@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com In a message dated 15/03/2006 00:34:18 GMT Standard Time, M.Grass@comcast.net writes: Ron, Isn't this absolute meaningless? I would understand and think it would be meaningful to get max indicated airspeed with what type (tri or mono) and what engine and at what pressure altitude. Agreed. Fastest speed would depend on altitude, temperature, wind direction, type of engine, speed kit or not, weight of crew, passengers, fuel and luggage and a host of other variables. My experience is mostly with military aircraft and graphs to show indicated airspeed against fuel consumption are basic to pilot's notes. There is no absolute equivalent in the GA or PFA world, even allowing for different builds. Patrick ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:01 PM PST US From: NevEyre@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? --> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming off the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa trigear trailer ! Does that count ? Cheers, Nev. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:14:38 PM PST US From: D Wysong Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? --> Europa-List message posted by: D Wysong .... doesn't count unless you were riding in it, Nev. You can claim to have the world's fastest high-speed taxi test of an UNMANNED Europa, though. ;-) do not archive ------------ NevEyre@aol.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com > > I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming off > the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa > trigear trailer ! > Does that count ? > Cheers, > Nev. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:05 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" But did the local fuzz send you the photos to prove it? :-) Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC Member "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation." Tail done Standard XS wings with mods underway CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings) 1430 build hours to date, build currently stalled due to house moves and lack of workshop Intended fit: Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NevEyre@aol.com Sent: 15 March 2006 22:59 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? --> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming off the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa trigear trailer ! Does that count ? Cheers, Nev. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:50:09 PM PST US From: rmrrick Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? --> Europa-List message posted by: rmrrick hdwysong@gmail.com wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: D Wysong > >.... doesn't count unless you were riding in it, Nev. You can claim to >have the world's fastest high-speed taxi test of an UNMANNED Europa, >though. ;-) > >do not archive >------------ >NevEyre@aol.com wrote: > > >>--> Europa-List message posted by: NevEyre@aol.com >> >>I claim the fastest ground speed for a Europa, just over the Ton, coming off >>the Thelwall Viaduct, northbound on the M6 Motorway , sat on the Europa >>trigear trailer ! >>Does that count ? >>Cheers, >>Nev. >> >> > > > > > > > > > Not bad behind a rusty old AVENGER!? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:11:02 PM PST US From: Rman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? --> Europa-List message posted by: Rman Can't come anywhere close to that, but N55XS has seen 181 kts at 3,000 feet, in cruise... ;) Jeff - N55XS Doing 150 hr check and adding a new Trio autopilot, while at it... :) James wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "James" > >Hi Ron, >I have seen 252 knots coming home from WA @ 21,000. > > Jim T. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us >Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:02 PM >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fastest groundspeed seen in a Europa? > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: > >Hello Michael > >"Ron, Isn't this absolute meaningless?" > >I am a balloonist. I have an interest machines that are pursuaded to take >advantage of the atmosphere moving from high pressure to a lower pressure. > >There are many a balloonist that break the hundred per hour mark. > >Just wondering if a Europa has broken the 300MPH mark. > >To me that is not meaningless, it means that a Europa pilot maneuvered his >craft in position with a hundred MPH tailwind. > >Right conditions (Jetstream), perhaps glider wings, oxygen and I don't think >that 400MPH is out the question. > >Choosing to fly when in favorable conditions can and does play an important >role into ultimate speed of a aircraft. Choose a day to fly to Florida from >New York on the East side of a powerful high pressure area, and return on >the West side and see if that does not put a smile on ones face, even if >flying a slug. > >Sincerely >Ron Parigoris > > > > > > > > > > > > > >